The Liberal Primer: ACLU

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The Liberal Primer: ACLU

Greetings fellow liberals! In this section of the primer we discuss various organizations that support our agenda. The ACLU is our front organization which gives us credibility on the issue of free speech. We have them declare themselves non-partisan but as we all know organization that declares themselves non-partisan is lying. It is useful to us as it fools the less informed members of the country.

Free speech has always been a difficult issue for us which makes the ACLU all the more important. After all how can we be against free speech when the saintly ACLU says that all Democrats are good and all Republicans are evil. This is perfect as we do not really believe in free speech anyway. Democrats get free speech. Republicans and conservatives have the right to keep quiet and do as their told. The public has plenty of things going on with their lives and getting more information will just confuse them. All they need to know is that we are right and the other side is wrong.

Aside from the credibility boost the ACLU serves two other major functions. To channel and divide.

Channel

The first major function of the ACLU is to make sure that any free speech that is harmful to Republicans is encouraged and heard by as wide an audience as possible. Any time organizations like the KKK or anything Neo Nazi wants to hold a rally or march it is the duty of the ACLU to encourage it. If we could pay for their transport and venue we would as well. In fact we may already be doing that. Do you ever notice how the KKK only becomes relevant every 4 years and they only hold rallies in swing states that we believe we have a shot at winning? In 2016 it was in North Carolina. You would think they would do so in other more Republican states, but that's a discussion for another time. By encouraging these groups we make sure that all the gays, jews, and women in the country feel that we are the only thing standing between them and the ovens and concentration camps. They have no chance of convincing people of their viewpoints anyway and left alone they may just wither and die. That is the last thing we want to happen.

Control

The second function of the ACLU is to control free speech. Do you ever notice that the ACLU is silent whenever figures like Shapiro, Coulter, and Milo are shut out of universities? This is by design. The only time the ACLU would speak out on it is when the issue is over and the speech has been cancelled. The last thing we want is for Republicans and conservatives who have a chance to convince other people to speak in public. The fact that these three are gay, Jewish, and a woman just complicates the issue. The last thing we want is for these communities to identify with people who think differently from Democrats. It would defeat our purpose of keeping them on edge at all times.

I hope this has made you realize the importance of the ACLU. They are just as much a part of the Democratic party as the DNC. Don't forget to donate to them. Match me!
 
tsuke said:
true. they encourage nazi's and KKK to march while staying silent when shapiro coulter and milo are silenced. I kinda explain this you know.
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Oh really?

ACLU Defends Ann Coulter: 'A Loss For The 1st Amendment'

The American Civil Liberties Union defended Ann Coulter's right to speak at the University of California-Berkeley, The Hill reported.

The ACLU said the "heckler's veto" is a shameful way to deprive someone of their First Amendment rights.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/04/26/ann-coulter-berkeley-speech-aclu-defends-hate-speech-campus
Stupid asshole.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Oh really?

ACLU Defends Ann Coulter: 'A Loss For The 1st Amendment'

The American Civil Liberties Union defended Ann Coulter's right to speak at the University of California-Berkeley, The Hill reported.

The ACLU said the "heckler's veto" is a shameful way to deprive someone of their First Amendment rights.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/04/26/ann-coulter-berkeley-speech-aclu-defends-hate-speech-campus
Stupid asshole.
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The only time the ACLU would speak out on it is when the issue is over and the speech has been cancelled
 
tsuke said:
The only time the ACLU would speak out on it is when the issue is over and the speech has been cancelled
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The ACLU defended her, didn't they? You said they stayed silent...
You are a fucking liar... asshole.
Coulter cancelled her speech herself because her sponsors said they wouldn't pay her...
 
The ACLU Explains Why They're Supporting The Rights Of Milo Yiannopoulos

he American Civil Liberties Union defends free speech, even if it's hateful. That has some of their supporters upset. Lulu Garcia-Navarro talks to Lee Rowland, a senior staff attorney at the ACLU.

LOURDES GARCIA-NAVARRO, HOST:

Now we're going to turn to another issue on a lot of people's minds, free speech. The American Civil Liberties Union has raised a lot of money, $24 million in donations in just one weekend in fact, after President Trump announced his executive order on immigration. Hundreds of thousands of people were motivated by the organization's work to defend people who were detained at airports. And then this week, the ACLU expressed support for a free speech case. This one involves Milo Yiannopoulos. He's the divisive editor of the far-right website Breitbart News, and he's said things like feminism is a cancer.

He was recently supposed to speak at UC Berkeley, but intense protests led the school to cancel the event last minute. The ACLU says no matter how much you might dislike what he has to say, it's protected free speech, and that makes some of its newest supporters upset. Joining me now to talk about this is Lee Rowland. She's a senior staff attorney with the ACLU Speech, Privacy and Technology Project.

Welcome to the program.

LEE ROWLAND: Hi. Thanks for having me.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So what's the case for defending Mr. Yiannopoulos in your view?

ROWLAND: Well, the case for Mr. Yiannopoulos is the same as it would be for any speaker, no matter how despicable or offensive we might find them, which is the First Amendment protects our right to speak out on matters of public concern, to talk about things that are as offensive as the things that Mr. Yiannopoulos says without censorship by the government. And ideally, as in his case, without people physically preventing him from speaking at a place where he had every right to speak.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So the ACLU and you specifically, actually, have received criticism on social media about this. Does the ACLU need to do a better job explaining why it's defending him and other cases like this, where someone is committing what some would consider hate speech?

ROWLAND: Well, look, I certainly understand that, especially for many of our new members, they may be surprised by the ACLU's robust First Amendment positions, but it's certainly not new. Indeed, one of our most high-profile and controversial moments in the ACLU's history was defending the rights of literal self-proclaimed Nazis to march through the streets of Skokie, a town made up largely of Holocaust survivors. What's amazing about the First Amendment is it protects us, regardless of our viewpoints, regardless of the causes we hold dear.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: But isn't hate speech different?

ROWLAND: There's no question that the things that Mr. Yiannopoulos says are unbelievably hateful in nature. But the phrase hate speech is a form of free speech. Again, in defending the rights of others to speak, whether or not we agree with them, we must all reach out and protect the speech that we most disagree with or else the First Amendment is just reduced to a popularity contest and has no meaning.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: At a time like this, when the country's so divided, many see the ACLU as a check on the Trump administration. You've been at the forefront of several important battles. Are you worried that taking controversial positions like this will erode your support, especially among new members?

ROWLAND: Well, I certainly hope not. I mean, as our - as my colleagues' incredible work as of late has shown, we at the ACLU consider ourselves the first responders for the Constitution. That's a core part of our identity here at the ACLU. And look, we often say - if you disagree with us 20 percent of the time, it means you're a thinking person. If you disagree with us 50 percent of the time, you should consider coming to work for us.

So we respect diversity. No one has to fall in line with all of the ACLU's positions. But I do believe that our defense of the First Amendment is an integral part of our fight for civil rights, for equality and liberty for all.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Lee Rowland, a senior staff attorney with the ACLU, thanks so much for being with us.

ROWLAND: Thank you very much.
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/12/514785623/the-aclu-explains-why-theyre-supporting-the-rights-of-milo-yiannopoulos
 
again notice it happened when milo (and coulter) were chased out or cancelled in berkley and not before :)
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
The ACLU defended her, didn't they? You said they stayed silent...
You are a fucking liar... asshole.
Coulter cancelled her speech herself because her sponsors said they wouldn't pay her...
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wut read the OP. I mentioned they stayed silent until the speech was cancelled. They had weeks to make their views known before the speech was cancelled.
 
tsuke said:
again notice it happened when milo (and coulter) were chased out or cancelled in berkley and not before :)
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They were not "silent", were they you fucking lying asshole...

The ACLU can't help it if right wing speakers give up so easily... They supported their right to speak.

Your premise in the OP has been disproven... The ACLU is not a "liberal" organization.

You stupid fucking liar.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
The ACLU Explains Why They're Supporting The Rights Of Milo Yiannopoulos

he American Civil Liberties Union defends free speech, even if it's hateful. That has some of their supporters upset. Lulu Garcia-Navarro talks to Lee Rowland, a senior staff attorney at the ACLU.

LOURDES GARCIA-NAVARRO, HOST:

Now we're going to turn to another issue on a lot of people's minds, free speech. The American Civil Liberties Union has raised a lot of money, $24 million in donations in just one weekend in fact, after President Trump announced his executive order on immigration. Hundreds of thousands of people were motivated by the organization's work to defend people who were detained at airports. And then this week, the ACLU expressed support for a free speech case. This one involves Milo Yiannopoulos. He's the divisive editor of the far-right website Breitbart News, and he's said things like feminism is a cancer.

He was recently supposed to speak at UC Berkeley, but intense protests led the school to cancel the event last minute. The ACLU says no matter how much you might dislike what he has to say, it's protected free speech, and that makes some of its newest supporters upset. Joining me now to talk about this is Lee Rowland. She's a senior staff attorney with the ACLU Speech, Privacy and Technology Project.

Welcome to the program.

LEE ROWLAND: Hi. Thanks for having me.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So what's the case for defending Mr. Yiannopoulos in your view?

ROWLAND: Well, the case for Mr. Yiannopoulos is the same as it would be for any speaker, no matter how despicable or offensive we might find them, which is the First Amendment protects our right to speak out on matters of public concern, to talk about things that are as offensive as the things that Mr. Yiannopoulos says without censorship by the government. And ideally, as in his case, without people physically preventing him from speaking at a place where he had every right to speak.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So the ACLU and you specifically, actually, have received criticism on social media about this. Does the ACLU need to do a better job explaining why it's defending him and other cases like this, where someone is committing what some would consider hate speech?

ROWLAND: Well, look, I certainly understand that, especially for many of our new members, they may be surprised by the ACLU's robust First Amendment positions, but it's certainly not new. Indeed, one of our most high-profile and controversial moments in the ACLU's history was defending the rights of literal self-proclaimed Nazis to march through the streets of Skokie, a town made up largely of Holocaust survivors. What's amazing about the First Amendment is it protects us, regardless of our viewpoints, regardless of the causes we hold dear.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: But isn't hate speech different?

ROWLAND: There's no question that the things that Mr. Yiannopoulos says are unbelievably hateful in nature. But the phrase hate speech is a form of free speech. Again, in defending the rights of others to speak, whether or not we agree with them, we must all reach out and protect the speech that we most disagree with or else the First Amendment is just reduced to a popularity contest and has no meaning.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: At a time like this, when the country's so divided, many see the ACLU as a check on the Trump administration. You've been at the forefront of several important battles. Are you worried that taking controversial positions like this will erode your support, especially among new members?

ROWLAND: Well, I certainly hope not. I mean, as our - as my colleagues' incredible work as of late has shown, we at the ACLU consider ourselves the first responders for the Constitution. That's a core part of our identity here at the ACLU. And look, we often say - if you disagree with us 20 percent of the time, it means you're a thinking person. If you disagree with us 50 percent of the time, you should consider coming to work for us.

So we respect diversity. No one has to fall in line with all of the ACLU's positions. But I do believe that our defense of the First Amendment is an integral part of our fight for civil rights, for equality and liberty for all.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Lee Rowland, a senior staff attorney with the ACLU, thanks so much for being with us.

ROWLAND: Thank you very much.
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/12/514785623/the-aclu-explains-why-theyre-supporting-the-rights-of-milo-yiannopoulos
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Poor sookie.
Always needs to lie to make a point, ergo he has no valid point.

Why do you hate honesty sookie?
 
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