The KKK is to Christianity what AlQueda is to Islam.
- Thread starter Jarod
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Hindu terrorism is by nature sort of rare.
Not in India: muslims by the thousands, are slaugtered by Hindu zealots. And muslims retaliate. Its a vicious cycle.
Well in order to fight AL Queda we should look to see what methods were successfull in fighting the KKK.
It took a generational change... Education of the children of racists... Forced social progress (the civil rights movement) and forced cultural change with intigration. It also took some affirmative action. Once the races were forced to mix most individuals learned the races are not so different.
How would that translate to the Al Queda problem?
Liberal Education of Arab children would be a start. Forcing the market place open to forign investment and trade would also help. Any other ideas?
It took a generational change... Education of the children of racists... Forced social progress (the civil rights movement) and forced cultural change with intigration. It also took some affirmative action. Once the races were forced to mix most individuals learned the races are not so different.
How would that translate to the Al Queda problem?
Liberal Education of Arab children would be a start. Forcing the market place open to forign investment and trade would also help. Any other ideas?
uscitizen
Villified User
Clearly one way to help end Islamofacism is to work to ending the poverty many Muslams live in. Desolation leads often to extreemism!
free trade agreements, privitization, deregulation, and liberal education are not the answer. For the muslim zealots and their supporters, this isn't about economics. Nor, is it about "democracy". Democracy, in the the jeffersonian western-sense is a unique experience of the west, based on 500 years of history going back to the enlightenment.
No, this is about the perception in the muslim world, that the West is subjugating and oppressing them with our foreign policy.
You want to drain the swamp of support for the goals of al qaeda? Then you take the steps neccessary to reduce or mitigate the perception that we are NOT supporting autocratic oppressive arab dictators because of our love for cheap oil, and that we can be even-handed in dealing with the israeli-palestinian issue.
This is just reality.
As for democracy, that is something that will have to come organically from witin arab societies. We can express support for it, but we can't force it on them. And an arab notion of "democracy" is going to look significantly different from a wester notion of it.
Yup, I agree... so.
I should change it to:
"The KKK of the 1960's was to Christianity what AlQueda today is to Islam."
Hows that?
I know we are never going to change this generations thinking about the West.... But we can give the next generation a new perspective... How do we do that? I know its not by killing there parents... but how?
I'd basically agree. I think the KKK uses religious undertones to promote their inanity. So, yeah. About the same.
Gaffer
Sanctimonious Prick
The kkk was established after the civil war as a way to intimidate blacks.
It expanded its hate mongering to other races and religions in order to recruite new members.
What really took down the power hold of the kkk was the federal government not only send troops to the southern cities that refuse to integrate but the threat of cutting off funding to the states that didn't comply. Money talks and the feds have plenty of it.
what was used by the government to contain the kkk here is not feasable in iraq or against other countries like iran.
And david dukes, the head of the kkk was in iran for the hollacost meeting. Amazing how hatred brings people that hate each other together for a single purpose.
It expanded its hate mongering to other races and religions in order to recruite new members.
What really took down the power hold of the kkk was the federal government not only send troops to the southern cities that refuse to integrate but the threat of cutting off funding to the states that didn't comply. Money talks and the feds have plenty of it.
what was used by the government to contain the kkk here is not feasable in iraq or against other countries like iran.
And david dukes, the head of the kkk was in iran for the hollacost meeting. Amazing how hatred brings people that hate each other together for a single purpose.
How about pumping tuns of money into Iraq with the condition that they promote liberal education and social progress?
Gaffer
Sanctimonious Prick
we tried that with palistine. They elected hamas and got cut off. iran stepped in with money for rockets and weapons instead. It only works when you are the sole source of the income. Would be great if we could just do it that way. Education is the most important weapon we could have over there.