The insanity of blaming Islam

OnearmSword said:
Why do you upon reading bible verses ignore those verses and go off on a diversion? I posted a link with many bible verses proving my point both you and christiefan ignore those and just repeated lame false accusations against me.
Somebody is being very deceitful here and sure is not me.
Is that what a website posting truth about Islam is? An anti-Islam website?
So you contend what? That the truth is irrelevant or just not convenient. So ignoring it becomes a viable and better option.
Sure doing that means in your mind that you can never lose a debate but such deceit also means you can never hope to ever win one.
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I'm disturbed by anyone who uses verses from their Holy Book to justify their hatred, and that's what you're doing. My personal belief is that there's a line people can't cross when trying to explain God, and that means telling others how God's going to judge them. Just curious, are you out there doing missionary work on Muslims? Or are you just a keyboard crank that talks the talk but doesn't act on his beliefs?
 
christiefan915 said:
I'm disturbed by anyone who uses verses from their Holy Book to justify their hatred, and that's what you're doing. My personal belief is that there's a line people can't cross when trying to explain God, and that means telling others how God's going to judge them. Just curious, are you out there doing missionary work on Muslims? Or are you just a keyboard crank that talks the talk but doesn't act on his beliefs?
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They conveniently ignore the bible verses that I posted in this very thread. They will not be turned away from their hatred and their hearts have been hardened....which is NOT the work of God.
 
Dixie said:
You don't believe the Bible if you think Allah and God are the same. You also don't believe the teachings of Muhammad.
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I don't believe in the teachings of Mohammad. But I do know that the deity they call Allah is the same God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Perhaps Mohammed is a false prophet that our Christian bible speaks of....but make no mistake...they worship the same God.
 
Steelplate said:
I don't believe in the teachings of Mohammad. But I do know that the deity they call Allah is the same God of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Perhaps Mohammed is a false prophet that our Christian bible speaks of....but make no mistake...they worship the same God.
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Go read the information at the links I posted. They lay it out very clearly, there are numerous contradictions to the idea they are the same deity. If you don't like my links, Google it for yourself, but the fact is, the God of Abraham is not Allah, according to the Bible and teachings of Islam.
 
In absolute contradiction to the Scriptural foundation that God is a Triune Being, according to Muhammad, Allah has a completely different makeup. The applicable Sura from the Koran, which refers to Jesus by the name of Isa, emphasizes that Allah is not three:
Sura 4.171 “O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak lies against Allah, but speak the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three.”
Therefore, with respect to the Godhead, or Trinity, there is only one conclusion that can be made: Allah is NOT the God of the Bible!
 
Rana said:
The Jehovah's Witness, lol! You have got to be kidding me! They have so any non mainstream Christian beliefs, they denounce others Christians.
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I'm not defending Jehovah's Witness' or any other denomination. Just pointing out that Allah and God are two different entities, according to the Bible and Koran.
 
Dixie said:
Go read the information at the links I posted. They lay it out very clearly, there are numerous contradictions to the idea they are the same deity. If you don't like my links, Google it for yourself, but the fact is, the God of Abraham is not Allah, according to the Bible and teachings of Islam.
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What difference does it make? It's no skin off anybody's nose.
 
Dixie said:
I'm not defending Jehovah's Witness' or any other denomination. Just pointing out that Allah and God are two different entities, according to the Bible and Koran.
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Then the Christians and the Jews have a different God as well.
 
Dixie said:
In absolute contradiction to the Scriptural foundation that God is a Triune Being, according to Muhammad, Allah has a completely different makeup. The applicable Sura from the Koran, which refers to Jesus by the name of Isa, emphasizes that Allah is not three:
Sura 4.171 “O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak lies against Allah, but speak the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three.”
Therefore, with respect to the Godhead, or Trinity, there is only one conclusion that can be made: Allah is NOT the God of the Bible!
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Judaism believes there is only one God, they do not believe in the Trinity.
 
Rana said:
Judaism believes there is only one God, they do not believe in the Trinity.
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But Jews do believe in The Bible and the God of Abraham, not Allah. They have a different interpretation of the Scriptures, but their God is the same as the Christian God, who isn't Allah.

The history of Allah dates back to Mesopotamia, when tribal people worshiped the god of the moon, among other gods. The attributes of Allah, as described by Muslim religion and the Koran, is "unknowable," while the God of Abraham is quite literally the opposite. There are countless other examples where the word of the Koran and the word of the Bible describe entities which can not be the same. It is a purely 'moderate' and modern interpretation, that God and Allah are "the same thing." They certainly aren't, and if you believe in the Bible or Koran, you can't believe they are.
 
Dixie said:
But Jews do believe in The Bible and the God of Abraham, not Allah. They have a different interpretation of the Scriptures, but their God is the same as the Christian God, who isn't Allah.

The history of Allah dates back to Mesopotamia, when tribal people worshiped the god of the moon, among other gods. The attributes of Allah, as described by Muslim religion and the Koran, is "unknowable," while the God of Abraham is quite literally the opposite. There are countless other examples where the word of the Koran and the word of the Bible describe entities which can not be the same. It is a purely 'moderate' and modern interpretation, that God and Allah are "the same thing." They certainly aren't, and if you believe in the Bible or Koran, you can't believe they are.
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Guess we'll find out for sure when we die.
 
Steelplate said:
Guess we'll find out for sure when we die.
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I don't know that we will. If there is an afterlife, our spirit may have no recollection of this life. It is comforting for some people to believe they will exist in a place like heaven, surrounded by their loved ones and family who have died, but this is purely a construct of our imaginations. The Bible describes heaven, and it does it in a physical sense in order to make it comprehensible to humans, who can only understand and relate to physical sense. Will there really be "pearly gates" etc.? I don't personally believe this, but many people do.

That said, I do believe our spirits (or souls) will travel from this life and dimension to another. Which way we go, is dependent upon our strength of spirit. Those who have practiced being good spiritual beings, will experience a higher level of afterlife than weaker spiritual beings, who may not experience any further plain of existence as a spirit. But to each his own, that is just my personal belief.
 
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