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wiseones2cents

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What are America's thoughts?

I say the greenback should be re-introduced to eliminate the hold the foreign banks via the fed reserve have on America.

How can a nation have sovereignty if a foreign institution controls their currency??

America should have the right to print their own money INTEREST FREE!! Much of America's debt is interest. The question is???? Interest to WHOM?

Just remember though.....The last two presidents that tried to introduce the greenback were assassinated. Lincoln and JFK. These people will not loosen their grip on America without the majority of Americans being on board. And they have other ways to punish you from trying to free your self from their perpetual debt(debt slavery).......

A debt the middle class and small businesses are burdened with in America.

What are your thoughts?
 
Return of Dune said:
Agree.
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Look at this chart....in regards to Interest payed on American debt. That is 1/2 a trillion dollars in debt in 2011(what is the interest rate percentage???).

http://treasurydirect.gov/govt/repor...ir_expense.htm


The pigs are definitely eating at the pig trough with the debt going from 6 trillion in 2000 to almost 15 trillion in 10 years!! WOW!! No wonder the elites wealth increased by 10% of the total American wealth!! And Americans got stuck with the bill!!!!
 
wiseones2cents said:
Look at this chart....in regards to Interest payed on American debt. That is 1/2 a trillion dollars in debt in 2011(what is the interest rate percentage???).

http://treasurydirect.gov/govt/repor...ir_expense.htm




The pigs are definitely eating at the pig trough with the debt going from 6 trillion in 2000 to almost 15 trillion in 10 years!! WOW!! No wonder the elites wealth increased by 10% of the total American wealth!! And Americans got stuck with the bill!!!!
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Agree but goodluck with your quest.
Arguably the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812 and the Civil War were all fought over this issue, each time defeating the central bank, yet the central banks manage to retake the power within a couple generations at most. They are relentless and will never stop trying, even if defeated again.

We have ZERO need for a private central bank to print money for us and then lend it to us at interest. It is the biggest single scam of all time, and most americans are not even aware of the system or how it works.
 
Return of Dune said:
Agree but goodluck with your quest.
Arguably the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812 and the Civil War were all fought over this issue, each time defeating the central bank, yet the central banks manage to retake the power within a couple generations at most. They are relentless and will never stop trying, even if defeated again.

We have ZERO need for a private central bank to print money for us and then lend it to us at interest. It is the biggest single scam of all time, and most americans are not even aware of the system or how it works.
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I dont think that is the reason those wars were fought....

I would imagine it works like this.....The European banks had HUGE gold reserves. They force countries to wage wars(Via their freemason agents), then when the countries are left broke from the war? They come in and save your economy by giving you gold and a debt they will undermine to keep you in perpetual debt slavery.
 
Let it be known that freemasons also ran Britain and France..... And if you people think you won that war? You are mistaken. The proof is the central bank and federal reserve established in America after the war that was tied to European wealth......
 
They even financed the Nazis......War profiteering is where the money is at.......

Sounds like the forefathers who made the constitution knew what they were talking about. Corporations eating at the pig troughs........

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

"The system of banking [is] a blot left in all our Constitutions,
which, if not covered, will end in their destruction...
I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous
than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to
be paid by posterity... is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
 
What do you think these foreign investors do with all that interest? Do you not think they use it to take over Corporate America? I would imagine their assets are huge and they consist of the 1%.Who can compete against people with that kind of wealth that also has the politicians in their pockets?
 
The Rothchilds finance both sides of every war, have for centuries. They have immeasurable wealth and controll the private centrall Bank of England as well.

Their controll of government is immense and nearly complete.

We are as much slaves today as were the subjects to the Pharoahs, whose direct decendents still comprise our ruling class.
 
Return of Dune said:
The Rothchilds finance both sides of every war, have for centuries. They have immeasurable wealth and controll the private centrall Bank of England as well.

Their controll of government is immense and nearly complete.

We are as much slaves today as were the subjects to the Pharoahs, whose direct decendents still comprise our ruling class.
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Yes you are correct. Though it was first the Kings that were in on the scam. Though I would Imagine that jewish money changers and accountants were involved.......

When the Rothschilds took over the wealth of one of the largest war profiteers,William I, Elector of Hesse, they brought the game to another level. They expanded from Germany to England, Italy, Austria, France, and were behind every war, including Napoleon. The world is run bu blood money.
 
wiseones2cents said:
What are America's thoughts?

I say the greenback should be re-introduced to eliminate the hold the foreign banks via the fed reserve have on America.

How can a nation have sovereignty if a foreign institution controls their currency??

America should have the right to print their own money INTEREST FREE!! Much of America's debt is interest. The question is???? Interest to WHOM?

Just remember though.....The last two presidents that tried to introduce the greenback were assassinated. Lincoln and JFK. These people will not loosen their grip on America without the majority of Americans being on board. And they have other ways to punish you from trying to free your self from their perpetual debt(debt slavery).......

A debt the middle class and small businesses are burdened with in America.

What are your thoughts?
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I am greatly in favor of eliminating the fed, since it's a scam.

I am in favor of an honest money policy, and I'm afraid that giving politicians the power to create money out of thin air is not the solution either. When money is created out of thin air, the created money steals value from the savings of everyone else, most notably the working class and pensioners.

The only way to achieve an honest money is to allow competition in currencies. Competition in currency is the only effective way to return control of the currency to the citizens. With legal barriers to competition removed, people will be able to ditch crappy money in favor of money that better holds its value.

In short, eliminate the fed, but don't give politicians the printing press either. Let people choose the money they wish, and they will always shitcan any shady money in favor of more stable money.

Money is too important and integral to an economy to allow any individual or group to have the ability to control it.
 
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Return of Dune said:
The Rothchilds finance both sides of every war, have for centuries. They have immeasurable wealth and controll the private centrall Bank of England as well.

Their controll of government is immense and nearly complete.

We are as much slaves today as were the subjects to the Pharoahs, whose direct decendents still comprise our ruling class.
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The Bank of England was nationalised in 1946.

The Bank of England (formally the Governor and Company of the Bank of England) is the central bank of the United Kingdom and the model on which most modern central banks have been based. Established in 1694, it is the second oldest central bank in the world (the oldest being the Bank of Sweden, established in 1668). It was established to act as the English Government's banker, and to this day it still acts as the banker for HM Government. The Bank was privately owned and operated from its foundation in 1694. It was subordinated to the Treasury after 1931 in making policy and was nationalised in 1946.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP]
In 1997 it became an independent public organisation, wholly owned by the Treasury Solicitor on behalf of the Government, with independence in setting monetary policy.[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP]
The Bank has a monopoly on the issue of banknotes in England and Wales, although not in Scotland, Northern Ireland, the Isle of Man, or the Channel Islands.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] The Bank's Monetary Policy Committee has devolved responsibility for managing the monetary policy of the country. The Treasury has reserve powers to give orders to the committee "if they are required in the public interest and by extreme economic circumstances" but such orders must be endorsed by Parliament within 28 days.[SUP][8][/SUP] The Bank's Financial Policy Committee held its first meeting in June 2011 as a macro prudential regulator to oversee regulation of the UK's financial sector.
The Bank's headquarters has been located in London's main financial district, the City of London, on Threadneedle Street, since 1734. It is sometimes known by the metonym The Old Lady of Threadneedle Street or simply The Old Lady. The current Governor of the Bank of England is Sir Mervyn King, who took over on 30 June 2003 from Sir Edward George. As well as its London offices, the Bank of England also has secondary offices in Leeds.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_england
 
wiseones2cents said:
Look at this chart....in regards to Interest payed on American debt. That is 1/2 a trillion dollars in debt in 2011(what is the interest rate percentage???).

http://treasurydirect.gov/govt/repor...ir_expense.htm


The pigs are definitely eating at the pig trough with the debt going from 6 trillion in 2000 to almost 15 trillion in 10 years!! WOW!! No wonder the elites wealth increased by 10% of the total American wealth!! And Americans got stuck with the bill!!!!
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I don't even know where to start...
 
Centinel said:
I am greatly in favor of eliminating the fed, since it's a scam.

I am in favor of an honest money policy, and I'm afraid that giving politicians the power to create money out of thin air is not the solution either. When money is created out of thin air, the created money steals value from the savings of everyone else, most notably the working class and pensioners.
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Inflation is not theft. The government does not owe you a currency that is utterly stable. You know in advance that the currency is not stable. In fact, keeping the value of the currency 100% stable would be, in many instances, economically disastrous. Sure, this will hit you if, like an idiot, you just grab currency and hold on to it as if it were an investment. But currency is not an investment. It was never meant to be an investment. If this disturbs you, use currency for what it was meant for - barter it for something with investment value.

Centinel said:
The only way to achieve an honest money is to allow competition in currencies. Competition in currency is the only effective way to return control of the currency to the citizens. With legal barriers to competition removed, people will be able to ditch crappy money in favor of money that better holds its value.

In short, eliminate the fed, but don't give politicians the printing press either. Let people choose the money they wish, and they will always shitcan any shady money in favor of more stable money.

Money is too important and integral to an economy to allow any individual or group to have the ability to control it.
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Monetary "competition" would just lead to chaos and a boom bust cycle in our currency that would be to the detriment of all. I support the Federalist founders in their wise decision to found a national bank in order to set a solid foundation for the republic. I will always oppose the idiotic tyrannical populists and enemies of the republic who seek to destroy such institutions and leave the people to the chaos of the market for no gain.
 
What demagogic movement in history existed that did not oppose the federal reserve? Those who oppose a national bank are the opponents of freedom.
 
wiseones2cents said:
What do you think these foreign investors do with all that interest? Do you not think they use it to take over Corporate America? I would imagine their assets are huge and they consist of the 1%.Who can compete against people with that kind of wealth that also has the politicians in their pockets?
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Nobody gets rich out of investing in American bonds, which provide an interest rate of like 1% a year. American bonds are actually, in almost all instances, an investment with negative effective value. People who invest in it only lose slightly less money than they would have had they just held on to the currency.
 
wiseones2cents said:
They even financed the Nazis......War profiteering is where the money is at.......

Sounds like the forefathers who made the constitution knew what they were talking about. Corporations eating at the pig troughs........

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

"The system of banking [is] a blot left in all our Constitutions,
which, if not covered, will end in their destruction...
I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous
than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to
be paid by posterity... is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
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Yeah, that's why "the founders" established the first national bank.

It is kind of amazing to the see the national bank attacked for being private and for being government controlled at the same time. IMHO, this is the cue to just fully nationalize the banking system and silence the idiots once and for all.
 
Return of Dune said:
Agree but goodluck with your quest.
Arguably the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812 and the Civil War were all fought over this issue, each time defeating the central bank, yet the central banks manage to retake the power within a couple generations at most. They are relentless and will never stop trying, even if defeated again.

We have ZERO need for a private central bank to print money for us and then lend it to us at interest. It is the biggest single scam of all time, and most americans are not even aware of the system or how it works.
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Arguably you're a paranoid nutjob with no fucking clue what he's talking about.
 
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