The Goalpost has been officially moved (re: Collusion)

It's extraordinarily telling that then trying to "compare lies," virtually the only thing any dopey rightie says about Obama is "you can keep your doctor."

It actually does the opposite of what they think. They can only think of one example? Obama was a paragon of honesty compared to Trump. If I wanted to take some time, I could list 50 from Trump right now, right off the top of my head.

The right has ceded honesty as an issue, forever.
 
Bigdog said:
if he lied? ... OMG :palm:
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Except that Obama's 'lie' was not malicious, but was a result of insurance companies dropping coverage because they didn't meet the minimum threshold of quality insurance. You can't say the same about Trump's lies, which are and were intended to be malicious, deceive, obfuscate, dodge blame, and misdirect attention.
 
In Liberal New York, it's legal to marry a 14 year old. Where's the Left's moral outrage.

Canada only recently joined the 21st century by raising its "age of sexual consent" from 14 to 16 :palm:
 
Amadeus said:
Except that Obama's 'lie' was not malicious, but was a result of insurance companies dropping coverage because they didn't meet the minimum threshold of quality insurance. You can't say the same about Trump's lies, which are and were intended to be malicious, deceive, obfuscate, dodge blame, and misdirect attention.
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Gruber's lie was malicious and Obama either went along for the ride or he was 'Gruber'd' himself.

Pick one.
 
Bigdog said:
Obama lied. True or false?
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I'll call that a "lie," just for the sake of argument. Truthfully, I do think that was his understanding of the plan at the time though. It's nothing at all like Trump's lies, which are intentional, strategic, pathological and frequent.

Like I said, it's more indicative of how truthful Obama was overall that the ONLY one you guys think of, EVERY time, is "you can keep your doctor." Over an 8 year term.

I can think of 50 since Trump took office. I can probably list 100 since the campaign started - big ones, not little ones. No comparison whatsoever.
 
Thing1 said:
I'll call that a "lie," just for the sake of argument. Truthfully, I do think that was his understanding of the plan at the time though. It's nothing at all like Trump's lies, which are intentional, strategic, pathological and frequent.

Like I said, it's more indicative of how truthful Obama was overall that the ONLY one you guys think of, EVERY time, is "you can keep your doctor." Over an 8 year term.

I can think of 50 since Trump took office. I can probably list 100 since the campaign started - big ones, not little ones. No comparison whatsoever.
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Google "Obama lies" :palm:
 
anatta said:
probably so.
We've already set a record for the World's Longest Hysterical Outburst About Nothingburgers...i'm sure we can continue
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How long did 'Obama doesn't have a birth certificate .. and by the way, he's a Muslim' last?

Started by the way, by your clownish orange leader .. the fucking Godfather of Fake News.

Try the really real world.
 
Thing1 said:
I can google "Patriots to start elephant at quarterback" and get over a million hits.

Again - every time this discussion gets up, "you can keep your doctor" is all you guys can come up with. Trump lies every day.
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Red line in Syria.
 
blackascoal said:
How long did 'Obama doesn't have a birth certificate .. and by the way, he's a Muslim' last?

Started by the way, by your clownish orange leader .. the fucking Godfather of Fake News.

Try the really real world.
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Obama created the lie that he was born in Kenya back in 1991 :palm:

Orange? ... I thought you opposed racism. :palm:
 
Thing1 said:
Again, you don't understand what a lie is.

If I had some time, I'd give you a tutorial. Trump lies constantly - and by that, I mean he says things that he KNOWS, at the time, are 100% not true.

Don't vote.
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Obama lied to Assad about the red line. :palm:
 
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