The future climate - the planet is giving us a glimpse

[Into the Night]

If you argued that in more complex systems, the Greenhouse Effect might not apply, you would have an interesting point.

No. He is correct. 'Greenhouse effect' is a Holy Word in the Church of Global Warming...nothing more.

Instead, you argued that an easily provable effect does not exist.

There is no proof of something that doesn't exist.

Clearly, it is possible to create a greenhouse, where light goes through the windows, changes into heat,

Light does not change into heat.

which is prevented from going back through the windows.

Heat is not contained in anything. Heat does go through the windows.

Insulation is a real thing, that slows down the release of heat.

Heat is not something that is 'released'. It is not any form of potential energy.

None of this violates any of the laws of physics.

You are ignoring the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which defines the concept of 'heat'. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics as well. A greenhouse does not create energy.

Humans have known about insulation since before there was even civilization.

I assume you mean thermal insulation (such as a blanket or a coat). That works by reducing heat.

There are absolutely no laws of physics possible that will disprove its existence.

No one is trying to disprove the existence of thermal insulation.

This is all like debating what policy we should follow in dealing with Ukraine if you did not believe Ukraine existed. It becomes pointless even communicating with you.

Ukraine is not thermal insulation, heat, thermal energy, or electromagnetic energy. False equivalence fallacy. Pivot fallacy. Cliche fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Carbon dioxide, and gases in general, are terrible conductors of heat.

WRONG. Carbon dioxide, in particular, conducts heat better than any other common gas.

Here is a simple experiment. Put your hand against an iron or steel object. It will feel cold, because metal is a good conductor of heat. Now raise your hand an inch above the object, and the metal is no longer conducting heat from your hand, and you feel it.

Nope. My hand does not feel cold. Indeed, in some cases I would not want to touch the metal because it's too hot.

What about wind? Wind (moving gas) will make your hand feel colder, not because it conducts heat away, but because it literally physically moves the hotter gas away.

Nope. Wind does not cool my hand, particularly in the summer, when wind is often hot air that is moving.

With double glazed windows, we solve this problem by trapping the gas between two pains of glass.

You are describing the properties of many forms of thermal insulation. They all work by trapping gas, which reduces heat. Double glazed windows typically use argon as the gas, since it doesn't conduct heat well, and it's relatively cheap.

The excellent insulating properties of gas is kept, and the moving properties of gas is prevented.

Think about that and greenhouses, dude.

If gas freely moved in and out of the Planet Earth, then you would start having a point. It does not, and we should all move on from your ignorance.

No, you are ignoring the Stefan-Boltzmann law now, as well as radiant heating.

 

[Into the Night]

Actually, they increase retention of heat.

You cannot trap heat.

Convection of heat works within a greenhouse,

Nope. The greenhouse stops convection to the outside. It reduces heat.

and within an atmosphere.

Nope. Convection exists in any fluid.

There is no convection of heat outside of the atmosphere.

You are ignoring radiant heating again, and with it the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

The atmosphere is kept around the Earth with gravity. It is actually a better block than any man made greenhouse.

You cannot trap light.

It is an insulation, not a creator of heat.

It is not an insulator. But it can and does create heat.

You wear a heavy jacket not to create heat, but to insulate heat.

Jackets do not create heat. They reduce it. You cannot insulate heat.

This is physics that was understood by people 100,000 years ago.

Nope. You obviously have no understanding of insulation, heat, or the 2nd law of thermodynamics, or the Stefan-Boltzmann law.
* You cannot trap heat.
* You cannot trap light.
* You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat.
* You cannot create energy out of nothing.

I literally have a dog who understands the basics of it.

Riiiiiight. Maybe your dog knows more than you do.

I cannot dumb this down any more for you. You are not literally dumber than a dog, but you are actively trying not to understand.

LIF. You are describing yourself.

Either you have easily discovered something that millions of scientists missed, or you are actively trying not to understand.

LIF. You are describing yourself.

These scientists have invested their entire lives into studying not just this, but far more complex issues.

No. It did not cause any scientist to spend their entire life creating the laws of physics which you choose to ignore.
Science is not scientists, dude.

Also, any person who attempts to use insulation would have to be wrong.

Nah. You just have no idea what thermal insulation does.

And then there are the creatures who use insulation...

Insulation really does exist, and does reduce entropy.

No one is arguing otherwise...except you. You are trying to use some kind of magick 'insulation' to reduce entropy.

 

[Into the Night]

science is wholly corrupted by oligarchs who want to kill everyone by withholding fuel for made up reasons.

Science is not corruptible. Science has no politics. It has no economy. It has no religion. Science is not any government, department, bureau, academy, society, scientist, or any group of scientists. It is not even people at all.

Science is a set of falsifiable theories. That's it. That's all.

The Church of Global Warming routinely discards the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. I have seen some of them discard the ideal gas law and Kirchoff's laws on occasion. This religion stems from the Church of Karl Marx. Socialists like these don't want to kill everyone, they just want to control everyone (but of course have no idea how to do it, causing misery). If they kill everyone, there is no one to control. The only ones they want to kill are dissidents.

In the end, it is not possible to withhold or ban anything. Smugglers exist for a reason. Such shortages, when widespread enough, will cause war.

 

[Walt]

science is wholly corrupted by oligarchs who want to kill everyone by withholding fuel for made up reasons.

Wow, you really are nuts.

 

[Monad Portal]

Wow, you really are nuts.

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[Walt]

There is no such thing as "greenhouse effect". There is no valid mechanism for it (it denies science).

Wow, none of the millions of scientists realized that greenhouses do not work.

Greenhouses work by reducing heat (due to the clear windows/walls of the greenhouse).

The whole point of a greenhouse is to keep plants warmer than they outside temperature. They do not reduce heat, they increase heat. They take in light through their clear windows, and the windows hold in the heat the light creates.

 

[Walt]

You cannot trap heat.

Tell that to my thermos.

 

[Monad Portal]

Wow, none of the millions of scientists realized that greenhouses do not work.



The whole point of a greenhouse is to keep plants warmer than they outside temperature. They do not reduce heat, they increase heat. They take in light through their clear windows, and the windows hold in the heat the light creates.

 

[Walt]

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Yup, you are completely nuts. And that is said by someone who actually has real bad blood with Microsoft.

 

[Monad Portal]

Yup, you are completely nuts. And that is said by someone who actually has real bad blood with Microsoft.

you should have bad blood about the depopulation agenda, but you don't because you're a nazi eugenicist at heart.

 

[Monad Portal]

No. He is correct. 'Greenhouse effect' is a Holy Word in the Church of Global Warming...nothing more.

There is no proof of something that doesn't exist.

Light does not change into heat.

Heat is not contained in anything. Heat does go through the windows.

Heat is not something that is 'released'. It is not any form of potential energy.

You are ignoring the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which defines the concept of 'heat'. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics as well. A greenhouse does not create energy.

I assume you mean thermal insulation (such as a blanket or a coat). That works by reducing heat.

No one is trying to disprove the existence of thermal insulation.

Ukraine is not thermal insulation, heat, thermal energy, or electromagnetic energy. False equivalence fallacy. Pivot fallacy. Cliche fallacy.

its fun to watch when you're doing it to someone else!

 

[Into the Night]

Wow, none of the millions of scientists realized that greenhouses do not work.

No one has said they don't. You just don't understand how they work, even though I've told you numerous times.

The whole point of a greenhouse is to keep plants warmer than they outside temperature.

No, it isn't. The point of a greenhouse it to provide a protected place for plants to start and establish themselves before being placed outside. Guess you're not much of a gardener.

They do not reduce heat, they increase heat.

They reduce heat. Heat has no temperature.

They take in light through their clear windows, and the windows hold in the heat the light creates.

You cannot trap heat. Light does not create heat. You are ignoring the 0th law of thermodynamics as well as the 2nd law of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law now. Heat has no temperature.

 

[Into the Night]

Tell that to my thermos.

A Dewer flask (also known as a Thermos jug) cannot trap heat. It reduces heat.

 

[Walt]

you should have bad blood about the depopulation agenda, but you don't because you're a nazi eugenicist at heart.

The Neo-Nazis accuse everyone of being a Nazi. It is losing its meaning.

 

[Theywillneverlearn!]

The Neo-Nazis accuse everyone of being a Nazi. It is losing its meaning.

Just like the left with racist and bigot, and well, every else. So by your definition all the left are racists, bigots....

 

[Bigdog]

Wow, you really are nuts.

The Parrot is using this definition of heat ...

What is heat definition chemistry?

Heat is the exchange of "thermal” energy due to a temperature difference. Consider an isolated system made up of two subsystems initially at two different temperatures. There is a transfer of energy from the higher temperature subsystem 2 to the lower temperature subsystem.


He is correct about co2 being a good conductor. But then he denies it conducts when in the atmosphere. He is in a paradox.

Conduct meaning absorb radiation and emit radiation.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Here stupid, for your education:

https://www.epa.gov/history/origins-epa

https://www.epa.gov/research/role-sc...nd resources.

The EPA is not science, numb nuts.

Try quoting some science for a change...

Try actually READING the information in the links provided, genius. Like this one https://www.epa.gov/aboutepa/research-centers-programs-and-science-advisory-organizations

I don't know if you're genuinely this stupid or just a 3rd rate troll earning his keep. In any event, you're no longer worth the time and effort.

 

[Into the Night]

The Parrot is using this definition of heat ...

What is heat definition chemistry?

Try English. It works better.

Heat is the exchange of "thermal” energy due to a temperature difference. Consider an isolated system made up of two subsystems initially at two different temperatures. There is a transfer of energy from the higher temperature subsystem 2 to the lower temperature subsystem.

Incorrect. Heat is the flow of thermal energy. At least you have the direction of flow correct here.

He is correct about co2 being a good conductor. But then he denies it conducts when in the atmosphere. He is in a paradox.

I do not deny it conducts heat and never did. Word stuffing.

Conduct meaning absorb radiation and emit radiation.

Conductive heating has nothing to do with radiant heating.

 

[Into the Night]

Try actually READING the information in the links provided, genius. Like this one https://www.epa.gov/aboutepa/research-centers-programs-and-science-advisory-organizations

Are you still trying to say the EPA is science dude????????!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!

I don't know if you're genuinely this stupid or just a 3rd rate troll earning his keep. In any event, you're no longer worth the time and effort.

So you want to return to your religion and continue to deny science. Gotit. Cliche fallacy.