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The future climate - the planet is giving us a glimpse
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Theywillneverlearn!
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There is nothing different from the Climate than has always been. How stupid are you lefties>?
T. A. Gardner
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Take note ProudLefty, the above IS gaslighting--and an ad hominem. Automation in industry has been increasing steadily. It won't replace the workforce entirely for the foreseeable future either. Electronics have also supplemented even manually operated machinery in many fields.
Adding a DRO kit to a mill or lathe allows manually operated machines to increase their accuracy and repeatability on making parts.
Up to about 1980, this was the most common database storage system for most corporations:
That is no longer true, databases are becoming entirely electronic and stored on computer hard drives, etc.
In the near future--within a couple of decades at most--driverless vehicles will become pretty commonplace. In mining, since you mention that, the dump trucks will need no driver. There are already a considerable number of robotic construction machines. Some still have a human supervising the machine, just in case, but they operate on their own virtually the entire time.
https://asirobots.com/mining/dozer/
https://www.constructiondive.com/news/komatsu-to-unveil-semi-autonomous-bulldozers/571751/
So, yes, a lot of mining operations will become close to totally robotic in the coming decades.
Take note ProudLefty, the above IS gaslighting--and an ad hominem. Automation in industry has been increasing steadily. It won't replace the workforce entirely for the foreseeable future either. Electronics have also supplemented even manually operated machinery in many fields.
Adding a DRO kit to a mill or lathe allows manually operated machines to increase their accuracy and repeatability on making parts.
Up to about 1980, this was the most common database storage system for most corporations:
That is no longer true, databases are becoming entirely electronic and stored on computer hard drives, etc.
In the near future--within a couple of decades at most--driverless vehicles will become pretty commonplace. In mining, since you mention that, the dump trucks will need no driver. There are already a considerable number of robotic construction machines. Some still have a human supervising the machine, just in case, but they operate on their own virtually the entire time.
https://asirobots.com/mining/dozer/
https://www.constructiondive.com/news/komatsu-to-unveil-semi-autonomous-bulldozers/571751/
So, yes, a lot of mining operations will become close to totally robotic in the coming decades.
So basically you're saying we're heading to a socialist utopia?
Taichiliberal
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Take note ProudLefty, the above IS gaslighting--and an ad hominem. Automation in industry has been increasing steadily. It won't replace the workforce entirely for the foreseeable future either. Electronics have also supplemented even manually operated machinery in many fields.
Adding a DRO kit to a mill or lathe allows manually operated machines to increase their accuracy and repeatability on making parts.
Up to about 1980, this was the most common database storage system for most corporations:
That is no longer true, databases are becoming entirely electronic and stored on computer hard drives, etc.
In the near future--within a couple of decades at most--driverless vehicles will become pretty commonplace. In mining, since you mention that, the dump trucks will need no driver. There are already a considerable number of robotic construction machines. Some still have a human supervising the machine, just in case, but they operate on their own virtually the entire time.
https://asirobots.com/mining/dozer/
https://www.constructiondive.com/news/komatsu-to-unveil-semi-autonomous-bulldozers/571751/
So, yes, a lot of mining operations will become close to totally robotic in the coming decades.
Dear Readers, check out Posts #152 & #155 on this thread. TA Gardner is so intent on the gain saying of anything or any position I post that he develops a sort of myopia in his discussion.I'll dumb it down further for him: I never denied the fact of automation and it's electronic/digital off springs (relatively)rapidly replacing the mechanical (i.e., the typing pool, manual typewriters, paper file draws). What I did DOCUMENT was the FACT that all this switch over STILL DEPENDS UPON INDUSTRIAL TECHNIQUES BORN OF THE INDUSTRIAL AGE TO OBTAIN THE RAW MATERIALS TO CREATE THE ELECTRONIC AGE. Human workers may be replaced by robots decades from now, but the environmental and ecological damage will be the same.
Add to this that all these electronic wonders are STILL being powered by industrial power plants, and that does not bode well for our environment (i.e., air pollution).
Add to this the FACT that used and out-dated electronics are NOT being recycled 100%, as there is economic incentive just to dump these items in another country with lax (or non-existent) waste disposal laws. That does NOT bode well for the human population.
Add to this "conservative" resistance to environmental changes to their business (Power company's bogus campaign against solar and wind power), and the seal clapping about SCOTUS pulling the EPA's teeth, and the "electronic age".
Add all these together and all the advantages of the electronic age products are not bringing ecological and environmental positive changes with them as fast. A matter of history, a matter of fact.
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Taichiliberal
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T. A. Gardner
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More bullshit, you're full of it.
IntoTheNight doesn't know what day it is.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Parts of the Earth absorb radiation and emit it back to the sky. CO2 absorbs radiation and emits it in any direction. The heat exchange between the two in the atmosphere, results in a higher atmospheric temperature than if the heat exchange were not present.
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Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Yeah, based on the last 20 glaciations that have occurred since the Earth developed polar ice caps 2 million years ago, ... the relative shortness of the interglacial periods, ... and the Milankovitch cycles. It is the most sound prediction based on the best evidence we have, IMO.
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NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Earth is going to be unlivable soon enough--no longer much doubt about that--but we won't last quite long enough to see it.
Urge the young people to not procreate, and that's about all we can do at this point.
Today's newborn babies have a holocaust in front of them. Abortion is a blessing to them.
Urge the young people to not procreate, and that's about all we can do at this point.
Today's newborn babies have a holocaust in front of them. Abortion is a blessing to them.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Look on the bright side Debbie Downer, we still have disease, starvation and war.
Or was your comment based on your belief in eugenics and humane euthanasia?
Word stuffing. He never said any such thing.
LIF. You are describing yourself again.
Many have already occurred.
No. Jobs have CHANGED because of technology, they weren't eliminated. Indeed, technology has brought MORE jobs and better paying jobs.
Learn what 'fact' means. It is not a worship word. It is not a proof. It is not a Universal Truth.
Production of raw materials is not pollution.
If someone is committing a crime disposing of waste, it's already a crime. So?
Insults get you nowhere.
LIF. You are describing yourself again.
Special pleading fallacy. False authority fallacy. 'Fact' worship.
Buzzword fallacies.
Calling the laws of physics bullshit doesn't make them go away, dude.
Quite true, since climate cannot change. There is no value associated with climate that can change.
A marine climate is always a marine climate. A desert climate is always a desert climate.
He doesn't take notes. He just trolls.
Correct.
Indeed. Much has already been automated.
It actually just changes the jobs, making them better paying jobs, and even creating jobs that never existed before. People have to design and build these machines (also automated), install them, maintain them, operate them (such as overseeing mining or processing operations), fix them when they break down, and program them.
Nice machine. Instead of a guy doing a repetitive job, now you have someone designing the part and coding the CNC file to run this machine. After that, the machine can keep making the same part accurately as long as you feed it material and power (at least until it breaks down, and the machinist or others must come and fix it). Such machines even make the cutting bits for other machines.Electronics have also supplemented even manually operated machinery in many fields.
Adding a DRO kit to a mill or lathe allows manually operated machines to increase their accuracy and repeatability on making parts.
My mill is manually operated. I only make one off parts occasionally. Same with my lathe and shaper.
Other machines will remain manually operated for quite some time, such as the saws and nailers used to build a typical house.
Most corporations still have these. Rows and rows of them. Smaller ones are usually available as part of the office desk still.Up to about 1980, this was the most common database storage system for most corporations:
It is still true. File cabinets haven't been eliminated. They are certainly not as numerous as they used to be though.
Databases are not electronics. They are software. This is what I mean by the information age. Everything from filesystems to various SQL databases storing company records and handling website traffic, to noSQL databases that are currently replacing SQL because it is much easier to store data across many machines, increasing reliability tremendously, is all software...not electronics...even though the computer itself is based on electronics.
A computer without software is useless.
Too many political problems. The technology may be available, but the politics around them will prevent their full acceptance. Liability is just too great and will be directed against the manufactures of those vehicles.
That said, driver assist system are already commonplace and they help the driver (most want to drive their own cars anyway). A good example of these are the Subaru Eyesight system (assisting steering and cruise following), or the Tesla Driver Assist system (properly used), that can drive the car under good conditions, even do it's level best to avoid an accident. It cannot, of course, handle unusual or poor conditions such as construction sites, inclement weather, or redirections (either temporary or permanent), such as a detour. It works well for freeways, but sucks on surface streets.
Autopilots in airplanes are most commonplace. They can even follow a preprogrammed flight plan. ATC understands this and tries to keep air traffic on their stated flight plans as much as possible. Some advanced systems, using special equipment on the ground at an airport, can even land the plane. You still need the pilots though, to handle the manual stages of flight, changes by ATC, and of operations at airports.
Automated rapid transit systems are also most commonplace. The BART system serving San Francisco was the first fully automated system. Unfortunately, it kept screwing up, and now there is a 'driver' on every train, who's job it is to watch the robot and override when it screws up (not if, WHEN). It's pretty good at handling block control by itself though. It has only failed at that once or twice. A single failure can cause a train wreck. In those cases, the driver overrode the robot and stopped the train to clear the block it attempted to invade.
Not for quite awhile yet! Roads keep changing. There are often no roads at all until the dump trucks and other equipment build them. Robots have one very basic problem: They are blind or almost blind. They don't know how to handle unusual situations or even detect an unusual situation. Robot vision processing has a looooong way to go.
Quite true. They are either following a preprogrammed routine or are just large remote control machines, like a remote controlled Tonka truck...just bigger.
Most of this is remote control, not autonomous. Semi-autonomous means it's remote controlled with a 'driver assist'.
Such machines can make mining safer, by having a remote controlled machine to the digging or blast setting. It's also safer for the machine to work in poorly shored up areas until it can install proper shoring.
Automated equipment can also make it easier to travel the considerable distance a mine often has on the rail lines installed in the mine.
Priceless! We get some hot weather and the dipshits start yelling "the sky is falling!" The planet really is descending into a bunch of low IQ, gullible morons.
LIF. You are describing yourself.
Learn what 'fact' means. It is not a Holy Word.
What environmental and ecological damage? Define it. Buzzword fallacy. Repetition fallacy (chanting).
What air pollution? Define this 'pollution'.
So? Learn what 'fact' means. It is not a Holy Word.
Actually, there isn't. Dumping stuff in another country means paying to transport it there. It's cheaper to dump in your own country.
Why? The human population is increasing, not diminishing.
Nothing bogus about is. Watt for watt, solar is the most expensive method of developing electric power. Wind is the 2nd most expensive.
The EPA itself is unconstitutional. Congress never had any authority to create the EPA and give it the powers that it has (or had).
The so-called electronic age has occurred, dumbass.
They already have. You cannot deny history, dumbass.
You deny history. Not a fact. Learn what 'fact' means. It is not a Holy Word.