The future climate - the planet is giving us a glimpse

T. A. Gardner said:
I prefer the term "Climatards."
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Works for me. Climate 'scientists' are nothing more than priests in the Church of Global Warming. They routinely discard the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law as well as discard statistical mathematics.

They actually confuse science with religion...and they do it intentionally to try to deceive the scientifically illiterate.
 
BartenderElite said:
Which, personally, I think is very nice of the planet.

And no - I'm not saying one weather event means anything. But, it is showing us what a likely future outcome will be. Global temps pushing and exceeding 100, the polar caps melting at accelerated rates.

Honestly, even the Green New Deal doesn't go far enough. We need a revolution in terms of energy use and conservation. It won't happen - but it's what we need. Conservatives always say that environmentalists are alarmists and have been doing the "boy cries wolf" routine for decades - but what they don't seem to realize is that most predictions about the climate and our planet have come true. We've just gotten used to the changes.
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Going to the sun road had an historically late opening this year. Too much snow.
 
Trumpet said:
If Trump was to tell you to jump off the cliff, would you do it?????????????
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Another fun fact about Glacier NP. One of the glaciers had a sign in the viewing area stating "this glacier will be gone by 2020. In 2019 they removed the sign. The glacier on the other hand is still there.
 
Sawyerloggingon said:
Another fun fact about Glacier NP. One of the glaciers had a sign in the viewing area stating "this glacier will be gone by 2020. In 2019 they removed the sign. The glacier on the other hand is still there.
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You wouldn't be fibbing to me, now would you???????????????????
 
North America’s Most Intense Heat Wave: July and August 1936

July 1936 is still the single warmest U.S. month ever measured, with an average temperature of 76.8°F beating out July 2012 by just 0.02°F.

Indiana: 116°F (Collegeville, July 14)
Iowa*: 117°F (Atlantic and Logan, July 25)
Kansas: 121°F (Fredonia, July 18, and Alton, July 24)
Maryland: 109°F (Cumberland and Frederick, July 10)
Michigan: 112°F (Mio, July 13)
Minnesota: 114°F (Moorhead, July 6)
Missouri: 118°F (Clinton, July 15, and Lamar, July 18)
Nebraska: 118°F (Hartington, July 17, and Minden, July 24)
New Jersey: 110°F (Runyon, July 10)
North Dakota: 121°F (Steele, July 6)
Oklahoma: 120°F (Alva, July 18, and Altus, July 19)
Pennsylvania: 111°F (Phoenixville, July 10)
West Virginia: 112°F (Martinsburg, July 10)
Wisconsin: 114°F (Wisconsin Dells, July 13)
New York City, NY: 106°F (July 10)
Baltimore, MD: 107°F (July 10)
Columbus, OH: 106°F (July 14)
Louisville, KY: 107°F (July 14)
Des Moines, IA: 110°F (July 25)
Minneapolis, MN: 108°F (July 14)
Bismarck, ND: 114°F (July 6)
Omaha, NE: 114°F (July 25)

Arkansas: 120°F (Ozark, Aug. 10)
Louisiana: 116°F (Plain Dealing, Aug. 10)
Oklahoma: 120°F (Poteau, Aug. 10, and Altus, Aug. 12)
Texas: 120°F (Seymour, Aug. 12)https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/North-Americas-Most-Intense-Heat-Wave-July-and-August-1936




https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/North-Americas-Most-Intense-Heat-Wave-July-and-August-1936


What caused this? 1936 Hummers?
 
Into the Night said:
No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth, dumbass. You can't create energy out of nothing. You are AGAIN ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.
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First law of thermodynamics only applies to closed systems. The Earth and it's atmosphere is not a closed system.

You simply do not understand the physics involved. CO2 acts like a thermal blanket. It doesn't create new energy. It prevents some of incoming solar radiation from being re-radiated back out into space from the earth. The more CO2 in the atmosphere, the less solar radiation is able to reflect back into space, e.g. see Venus
 
Cypress said:
Ironically, ground zero for global warming denialism, the southern United States, is going to get baked and broiled the worst. I hope they don't mind triple digits weather in April and May and no relief from the relentless heat until November
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I grew up in New Orleans. I remember 85° temps around Christmas Day as a kid.
That’s what a semi-tropical climate does at times.
 
Cypress said:
First law of thermodynamics only applies to closed systems. The Earth and it's atmosphere is not a closed system.

You simply do not understand the physics involved. CO2 acts like a thermal blanket. It doesn't create new energy. It prevents some of incoming solar radiation from being re-radiated back out into space from the earth. The more CO2 in the atmosphere, the less solar radiation is able to reflect back into space, e.g. see Venus
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Does the first law of thermodynamics apply to open systems?

Yes, the First Law of Thermodynamics applies to both open and closed systems. The first law is basically the law of conservation, modified for thermodynamics.

In case of a closed system, only energy transfer takes place. Thus we consider, the law of conservation of energy.

In case of an open system, both energy and mass transfer takes place. Thus both law of conservation of energy and mass is considered.

The Earth is essentially a closed system with respect to matter. but is an open system with respect to energy.
 
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