So, in another thread, what I think of as an interesting conversation started when Walt posted this post. To which I responded with a question.
Where does this right end?
The freedom to disrespect people... How far does that go?
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Where does this right end?
legally, it ends when a hypothetical "reasonable person" in the same situation as you feels the disrespect creates harm
is throwing a sandwich at me disrespectful and harmful? or just disrespectful?
So. What if I misgendered a child as a teacher, should I lose my job? What if it was a made up gender like "turtleself"? What if I misgendered a cis gendered child and called them turtleself? Is this a one-way right where someone can use governmental power to fire you for calling someone with a penis "him" when they want to be called "them"?
There is a difference between accidently misgendering a child and deliberate disrespect.
Matt Dillon
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When it infringes on their rights, of course.
No trans-people have a right to force anyone else to go along with their delusions and playacting at something they are not.
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deliberate disrespect is perfectly lawful, douchy pie-face.
So teachers have the right to disrespect their students and keep their job?
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Interesting. How about employees in general?
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disrespect is a slightly different consideration in the context of professional relationship, but writ large, the law shouldn't care.
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holy fuck you're a god damn retard.
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disrespect creating harm is a bullshit pussy notion.
if an employer feels its inapporpriate to the professional context then they can be fired.
but in terms of police getting inolved, fuck no.
QP!
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You need to distinguish between purposefully and accidentally.
Purposefully then the person can and should be fired based on school rules of decency. It would be no different than a teacher calling the fattest kid in the class slime each day knowing it was tormenting him
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in a representative republic, those decisions are decided by the people, ideally at smaller levels of governance.
we can scream inalienable rights until the cows come home - it requires people - and the will of man to protect said rights for any of it to matter.
so questions of misgendering a child, or throwing a sandwich ultimately falls on our peers to decide where the line is
That is not good enough. The government has no place making those decisions.
Now, canceling someone... That's free market stuff. In that this is 100%. If some beer company insults the people who drink the beer and they stop drinking it, that's on them. Or, if such decisions create a "movement" among people who buy the beer... all good. It's when the government tells you what you must say, that you must teach "their" values is where the line should be drawn. Schools are not the place for values instruction, that's for the home.
"Your right to swing your arm ends at the tip of my nose" Murray N. Rothbard
Basically, one can say what they like, but when they engage or incite physical violence they have gone too far.
It is assault. And a criminal act.
And you support strict speech laws to dictate that what proles utter is consistent with party goals.
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