The FOPS Panic

[tsuke]

She was spouting a shedload of irrelevant rubbish that she had gleaned from left wing media sources. The £350 million per week issue was addressed several times in the campaign, that is the gross figure sent to the EU each week. The nett figure after grants and subsidies coming back is around £180 million per week. She only wanted to dwell on that and not the unbelievable bullshit spouted by the likes of Tony Blair and Donald Tusk about economic meltdown and the crash of Western civilisation. Oh and also she wanted to get one over me because she is a nasty vicious polemicist who seemingly holds grudges in perpetuity.

i saw their interview with farage where they said he reneged on his promise to put it in the NHS. They asked him can you guarantee that the 350 million will be spent on the NHS. Farage said something like it could be used in schools, NHS, and other services and the interviewer acted like he said the most wrong thing in the world.

Also asking someone who is not an MP and who is the head of a party with only 1 mp to guarantee how the government does something is stupid.

 

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i saw their interview with farage where they said he reneged on his promise to put it in the NHS. They asked him can you guarantee that the 350 million will be spent on the NHS. Farage said something like it could be used in schools, NHS, and other services and the interviewer acted like he said the most wrong thing in the world.

Also asking someone who is not an MP and who is the head of a party with only 1 mp to guarantee how the government does something is stupid.

Yes exactly, the fact is that money (around about £160 million per week nett) wouldn't even become available until at least 2018 when we leave the EU and it would be up to the government then to decide how exactly it would be spent. Darla doesn't give a fuck about that, she is only interested in picking a fight, that's her MO. The dotty old bat claims that she's read up about it in the last couple of months and now knows everything about it, could you actually get any more fucking arrogant than that?

 

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Yeh you're right you didn't ask you you just made a stupid fucking claim that Farage was part of the official Vote Leave campaign and responsible for that slogan. As I've already said, we voted and that's that, nobody gives a fuck what a geriatric New York feminazi has to say on the subject.

I never used the word "official". He campaigned for Leave, but wasn't part of their "official" campaign. I know that, and don't need you to instruct me. This is semantics anyway, but even on that pointless argument, you are lying. He was a huge force for the Leave campaign, and your slimy ass knows it.

Did the Leavers campaign on giving 350 million pounds a week to fund the NHS, or did they not? Simple yes or no question fop, answer it.

 

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Yes exactly, the fact is that money (around about £160 million per week nett) wouldn't even become available until at least 2018 when we leave the EU and it would be up to the government then to decide how exactly it would be spent. Darla doesn't give a fuck about that, she is only interested in picking a fight, that's her MO. The dotty old bat claims that she's read up about it in the last couple of months and now knows everything about it, could you actually get any more fucking arrogant than that?

Yes, you know that whichever right wing Tory gets installed next would never agree to funnel 350 million pounds a week to the NHS, or any additional monies to the NHS. You're a Tory. However you're a stupid tory and I doubt you realize that even more austerity is what they will deliver, and if you do realize that, you certainly aren't going to admit to it. That is not the question.

The question is did the Leavers campaign on telling voters they would?

And the answer is here:

 

[tsuke]

Yes exactly, the fact is that money (around about £160 million per week nett) wouldn't even become available until at least 2018 when we leave the EU and it would be up to the government then to decide how exactly it would be spent. Darla doesn't give a fuck about that, she is only interested in picking a fight, that's her MO. The dotty old bat claims that she's read up about it in the last couple of months and now knows everything about it, could you actually get any more fucking arrogant than that?

although nigel could have just said yes and be done with it lol. Like you said no one is going to know till 2018 anyway

 

[Mott the Hoople]

It's hit's all the right points, and even if you disagree with Brexit - credit should be given for that.
It's the best singular post I've read for the motivation of Brexit .
Keep re-reading it over and over loses it's emotional punch, but it's still a clarion call.

This isn't some work stoppage in WV he's describing. It's a universal mandate

It's boiler plate bullshit. I'm neither for or against Brexit as I haven't studied it ergo I have no opinion. Grind hasn't studied it either and knows less about it than I do. One thing I do know is the Leavers barely won. How the hell is that some form of Universal mandate?

 

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It's boiler plate bullshit. I'm neither for or against Brexit as I haven't studied it ergo I have no opinion. Grind hasn't studied it either and knows less about it than I do. One thing I do know is the Leavers barely won. How the hell is that some form of Universal mandate?

You can get a president elected with less of the popular vote because of the electoral college system, how is that fair?

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there is no doubt that during our revolution you liberal pussies would have sided with the crown. I mean "how could a small agrarian society survive separation from the most powerful empire in the world?!?! It will never work!" Turncoats, all of you. GET OUT.

You're a really incredible combination of arrogance & stupidity.

This was a reactionary vote. You support reactionaries. You would have been all about the crown.

What a buffoon you've become.

 

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Exactly, it was boiler plate. I've been reading the UK press for months now, and it's quite fascinating. It took me about ten minutes to get the lay of the land. It's FOX (any surprise? Murdoch of course) and the NY Times. There's nothing mysterious about what is going on in the UK. It's the same forces, and the same people (low iq idiots vs people who can tie their own shoes) we have here.

Typical leftist bilge thinking they are smarter than everyone else and thus entitled to tell others how to live.

Lefties love democracy when people do what lefties want. Not so much when they don't.

Just shut the fuck up Darla. You are nothing more than a loud mouthed uninformed twat

 

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Typical leftist bilge thinking they are smarter than everyone else and thus entitled to tell others how to live.

Lefties love democracy when people do what lefties want. Not so much when they don't.

Just shut the fuck up Darla. You are nothing more than a loud mouthed uninformed twat

I think one of the biggest political myths of all time is the idea that conservatives are these "live & let live" type of people.

No one wants to control & tell others how to live more than conservatives. Especially religious conservatives.

 

[tsuke]

I think one of the biggest political myths of all time is the idea that conservatives are these "live & let live" type of people.

No one wants to control & tell others how to live more than conservatives. Especially religious conservatives.

this is true. Muslims want everyone to live under sharia law. Although it is our conservatives fighting them while our liberals enable them

 

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this is true. Muslims want everyone to live under sharia law. Although it is our conservatives fighting them while our liberals enable them

Under the Obama admin, thousands in ISIS have been killed, including much of the leadership, and their territory has been reduced by 60%.

Which "conservatives" are fighting them?

 

[anatta]

It's boiler plate bullshit. I'm neither for or against Brexit as I haven't studied it ergo I have no opinion. Grind hasn't studied it either and knows less about it than I do. One thing I do know is the Leavers barely won. How the hell is that some form of Universal mandate?

It's not Patrick Henry for sure, but the cause is not the creation of a nation either.
It's proportional to the event -but it sums up all the reasons in 1 statement.

It's an emotional appeal to the factors he listed - which are the universal mandate. not the vote count

"free people desire autonomy, self determination. unelected bureaucrats from other nations dictating your laws and controlling your economy.....having your own nation under your own control"

that is exactly what Brussels was doing, and the Brexits rose up and said enough thru the referendum.
IOW's those FACTORS not the ACTUAL VOTE was the driving force -so much so that the comfort zone of the EU
was rejected for some economic uncertainity, but freedom from remote tyranny. The people chose home rule instead

 

[Mott the Hoople]

You can get a president elected with less of the popular vote because of the electoral college system, how is that fair?

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i didn't say it was. What does this have to do with the price of fish?

 

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I think one of the biggest political myths of all time is the idea that conservatives are these "live & let live" type of people.

No one wants to control & tell others how to live more than conservatives. Especially religious conservatives.

Your entire premise is based on three things

1) killing unborn babies
2) queers marrying
3) tranny men pissing in female bathrooms

 

[Mott the Hoople]

It's not Patrick Henry for sure, but the cause is not the creation of a nation either.
It's proportional to the event -but it sums up all the reasons in 1 statement.

It's an emotional appeal to the factors he listed - which are the universal mandate. not the vote count
that is exactly what Brussels was doing, and the Brexits rose up and said enough thru the referendum.
IOW's those FACTORS not the ACTUAL VOTE was the driving force -so much so that the comfort zone of the EU
was rejected for some economic uncertainity, but freedom from remote tyranny. The people chose home rule instead

Can anyone interpret this incoherent Babel for me?

 

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i didn't say it was. What does this have to do with the price of fish?

You were talking about a simple majority not being enough, so I pointed out that a president can be elected on a minority of the popular vote. So stop codding me, I am not whitebait!

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Can anyone interpret this incoherent Babel for me?

Seems clear enough to me, we are prepared to put up with some short term discomfort to throw off the yoke of EU oppression. Don't worry this is not a South Carolina and Fort Sumter rerun!!

Your entire premise is based on three things

1) killing unborn babies
2) queers marrying
3) tranny men pissing in female bathrooms

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[anatta]

Can anyone interpret this incoherent Babel for me?

cmon. you don't have to agree, but there is no need to be disingenuous either.

you said:

One thing I do know is the Leavers barely won. How the hell is that some form of Universal mandate?

and I answered that the vote count wasn't the "universal mandate".
That mandate is reflected by what Grind wrote. those factors . They are the universal mandate in passing Brexit -
not the raw vote count.

The rest of my post was towards the proportionality of the event being equivalent to the language grind used.
Not soaring like Patrick McHenry, but then the event isn't the Birth of a Nation either.

 

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How dare those Brits not consult with Darcula, Thingy and Deshtard before they voted. On the upside, I am sure the top 1% are glad this trio is looking out for their interests.

BREXIT just improved income inequality by making rich people poorer. Lefties should be orgasmic.