The False Romance of Russia that attracts Trump's cult

[dukkha]

Nope. Here's what he actually said: “We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term. Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.”

So basically, Trump probably didn't break any laws (this time), but still colluded with Russia to cheat. You know, legal corruption. How this is legal is beyond me, but that's America.

onc again the faact is rght in front of you and you say otherwise. Mueller was saying "collusion" is not a legal term, so he didn't address that but the coordination/conspiracy did NOT HAPPEN by Trump or anyone

And ever since the annexation happened, the Ukrainians have been fighting to take the territory back. The Republicans, being more Fascist than American, are siding with Russia anyway.

there is no fighting over Crimea! the Russian annexation was and is peaceful.

the war is in the eastern provinces ( Donbas). It was started by Russian separatists living there,
because even though it's technically Ukraine territory the people that live there are local, and work in Russia for the most part ( Russian industries)
~~

1.No war in or over Crimea peninsula
2.No Russian collusion/coordiantion, or conspiracy with Trump Co. or anyone else

 

[dukkha]

The usurpation of the Crimea by the Russians is worrisome.

The usurpation of Poland by Hitler was just a prelude to his advance across Europe.

It appears that Americans no longer have an appetite for stopping expansionists like the Russians and the Chinese. It’s quite understandable that there is war fatigue.

Freedom is not free and the price appears to be too high in the America of today. Perhaps some other countries can get down off the wagon and push.

When donkeys fly.

ridiculous.
Conflating a broken post WWI Europe to the heavy NATO involved Europe of today doesn't work.
Hitler saw an opening and took it. Putin couldn't advance on Ukraine proper ( Kyiv) or an inch of Europe otherwise without triggering Article 5 of NATO ( common defense)

We have a bigger defense budget then ever, we even just started a Space Force to stop Russian hypersonic missiles
( Putin claims they are now deployed) and Chinese killer satellites etc.
We war game constantly over the South China sea/ NATO exercises etc. We feed the proxy war against Russia in Donbass

 

[Mason Melchizedek]

"CONSERVATIVES"??? "TRUMP's CULT"???? LIKE THESE TRAITORS ???

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html


And then THIS TREASON:

Uranium One deal led to yellowcake exports to Europe, memos show


After the Obama administration approved the sale of a Canadian mining company with significant U.S. uranium reserves to a firm owned by Russia’s government, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission assured Congress and the public the new owners couldn’t export any raw nuclear fuel from America’s shores.

“No uranium produced at either facility may be exported,” the NRC declared in a November 2010 press release that announced that ARMZ, a subsidiary of the Russian state-owned Rosatom, had been approved to take ownership of the Uranium One mining firm and its American assets.

The NRC never issued an export license to the Russian firm, a fact so engrained in the narrative of the Uranium One controversy that it showed up in The Washington Post’s official fact-checker site this week. “We have noted repeatedly that extracted uranium could not be exported by Russia without a license, which Rosatom does not have,” the Post reported on Monday, linking to the 2011 Barrasso letter.

Yet NRC memos reviewed by The Hill show that it did approve the shipment of yellowcake uranium — the raw material used to make nuclear fuel and weapons — from the Russian-owned mines in the United States to Canada in 2012 through a third party. Later, the Obama administration approved some of that uranium going all the way to Europe, government documents show.


https://thehill.com/policy/national...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show






Obama Caught promising Putin "more flexibility after (his) next election.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...xibility-after-election-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326





Obama Chides Romney for Calling Russia our #1 Threat

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obam...-their-policy-back_n_5b5713e2e4b00e8c8eb74b08


Obama Won’t Arm Ukraine Because He Led the Disarming of Ukraine

https://www.nationalreview.com/corn...e-he-led-disarming-ukraine-andrew-c-mccarthy/


Obama cyber chief confirms 'stand down' order against Russian cyberattacks in summer 2016


https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-cy...vR-F1p0MRb5IZr6ljJAHlhPlIhhKMD3c&guccounter=2




LIKE ALL OF THAT ^^^^^^^^^^^ ??!!!

 

[Micawber]

How many but Obama cards does each Trumpling get to play?

 

[evince]

BERNIE honeymooned in the old USSR, and he's your party leader. And has his own cult of Bernie Bros.

he also hired a paul Manifort butt hole boy to run his campaign in 2016

I agree Bernie is compromised


trump hired Manifort asshole

hes even dirtier than Bernie

 

[evince]

If the claim is that conservatives romanticize or excuse the ills of Russia, what of the Democrats who do the same for Ukraine?

Both Russia and Ukraine are extremely corrupt.

and Russia made them corrupt asshole


we have been backing them heaving the Russian influence idiot

along with the rest of the western world


when did the republican party split with the western world and begin craving Putin cock and why?

 

[Cypress]

Read on folks. This explains the love affair phony Christians are having with Russia in its efforts to undermine Democracy and the USA. And the dumbass sock-cuckers don't even realize this...



And Russians don't have gun rights suckers.

Much more to read at the link.

Terminated is the myth that conservatives were ever enthusiastic and fierce Cold War warriors standing for freedom and human dignity.

The only thing they ever cared about was the perceived economic challenge to corporate monied interests posed by a presumed global Communist insurgency.

The Anglo-American expeditionary force sent to kill Bolsheviks in Russia in 1919 were not there to fight for freedom and human rights. Conservatives never gave a rat's ass about the freedom and human rights of Russians.

Conservatives fell in love with the Kremlin because they realized these authoritarians would help Republicans win elections. Their own party leader on national TV begged the Kremlin and Communist China to help Republicans win, so we are beyond mere speculation about conservative motives

 

[Cinnabar]

Terminated is the myth that conservatives were ever enthusiastic and fierce Cold War warriors standing for freedom and human dignity.

The only thing they ever cared about was the perceived economic challenge to corporate monied interests posed by a presumed global Communist insurgency.

The Anglo-American expeditionary force sent to kill Bolsheviks in Russia in 1919 were not there to fight for freedom and human rights. Conservatives never gave a rat's ass about the freedom and human rights of Russians.

Conservatives fell in love with the Kremlin because they realized these authoritarians would help Republicans win elections. Their own party leader on national TV begged the Kremlin and Communist China to help Republicans win, so we are beyond mere speculation about conservative motives

Absolutely spot-on.

 

[dukkha]

If the claim is that conservatives romanticize or excuse the ills of Russia, what of the Democrats who do the same for Ukraine?

Both Russia and Ukraine are extremely corrupt.

the difference of course is Ukraine is cast as a "strategic partner" against Russia (it isn't -not even NATO)
so any criticism of our proxy war with Russia over Donbass is screamed at by the Russiaphobes as being
"soft on Putin"
Nobody ever thinks of "what if we don't war" or "what if we look for areas of cooperation" - basically the entire nation has been hoodwinked into Cold War 2.0 with Russia or worse.

Ukraine reeks of corruption,any dealings between the US and Ukraine are basically corrupt from the start

 

[StoneByStone]

No collusion and insufficient evidence to pursue obstruction.

If the Democrats thought that they could prove collusion, they would have included it in the Articles...that haven’t even been sent to the Senate.

You know that old saying about how all it takes for evil people to succeed is for good people to allow it to happen? The Republicans are the evil people, the Democrats are the good people allowing the Republicans to succeed. They should have brought up the Mueller Report in the hearings because it shows a pattern of behavior on Trump's part. And they should have included, not just the Mueller Report, but also bribery in the articles.

 

[StoneByStone]

onc again the faact is rght in front of you and you say otherwise. Mueller was saying "collusion" is not a legal term, so he didn't address that but the coordination/conspiracy did NOT HAPPEN by Trump or anyone

No, what he said was that there was not enough evidence to show that the Trump campaign broke laws in their dealings with Russia. However, he did show that Russia offered Trump help in the election and then Trump accepted. He also showed that after this, Trump had a "secret meeting" with Russia. If you think this isn't enough evidence to say Russia worked with Trump to get him elected, you probably also think there isn't enough evidence to say that Epstein was murdered.

there is no fighting over Crimea! the Russian annexation was and is peaceful.

the war is in the eastern provinces ( Donbas). It was started by Russian separatists living there,
because even though it's technically Ukraine territory the people that live there are local, and work in Russia for the most part ( Russian industries)
~~

1.No war in or over Crimea peninsula
2.No Russian collusion/coordiantion, or conspiracy with Trump Co. or anyone else

The war isn't just about Donbas, it's about having Russian military occupying Ukraine. The Ukrainian government still considers Crimea to be part of Ukraine and says that the Russians are illegally occupying that territory. Yes, the Russians are ALSO occupying Donbas and funding the Russian separatists there, but Ukraine's goal is to kick Russia out of Crimea too.

 

[Micawber]

tukkhass is a Russian bot

 

[dukkha]

No, what he said was that there was not enough evidence to show that the Trump campaign broke laws in their dealings with Russia. However, he did show that Russia offered Trump help in the election and then Trump accepted. He also showed that after this, Trump had a "secret meeting" with Russia. If you think this isn't enough evidence to say Russia worked with Trump to get him elected, you probably also think there isn't enough evidence to say that Epstein was murdered.

the Trump Tower meeting was a bust . there was no "Russia worked with Trump" -Mueller is clear. you can't spin it otherwise

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2019/03/mueller-concludes-investigation/
The special counsel found that Russia did interfere with the election, but “did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”

The war isn't just about Donbas, it's about having Russian military occupying Ukraine. The Ukrainian government still considers Crimea to be part of Ukraine and says that the Russians are illegally occupying that territory. Yes, the Russians are ALSO occupying Donbas and funding the Russian separatists there, but Ukraine's goal is to kick Russia out of Crimea too.

there is no "Russian military in Ukraine" - no where, none of it.
There are Russian weapons and retired soldiers, and ex-pats, but no Russian military.
No fighting over Crimea either, you are as usual 100% wrong

 

[StoneByStone]

the Trump Tower meeting was a bust . there was no "Russia worked with Trump" -Mueller is clear. you can't spin it otherwise




there is no "Russian military in Ukraine" - no where, none of it.
There are Russian weapons and retired soldiers, and ex-pats, but no Russian military.
No fighting over Crimea either, you are as usual 100% wrong

Now you're just repeating yourself.

 

[anatta]

Now you're just repeating yourself.

dismembering your BS .

 

[CharacterAssassin]

the Trump Tower meeting was a bust . there was no "Russia worked with Trump" -Mueller is clear. you can't spin it otherwise




there is no "Russian military in Ukraine" - no where, none of it.
There are Russian weapons and retired soldiers, and ex-pats, but no Russian military.
No fighting over Crimea either, you are as usual 100% wrong

And yet the Mueller report demonstrated and establish all kinds of collusion, you fucking simpleton.

You wouldn't know. You live in fear of reading it.

 

[dukkha]

And yet the Mueller report demonstrated and establish all kinds of collusion, you fucking simpleton.

You wouldn't know. You live in fear of reading it.

did you grunt something shit for brains?

“did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.

 

[CharacterAssassin]

did you grunt something shit for brains?

I said 'collusion', stupid whore.

Please learn to read better or get your parole officer to help you.

 

[Monad Portal]

is china totalitarian? let's see if a dem can be honest.

 

[dukkha]

I said 'collusion', stupid whore.

Please learn to read better or get your parole officer to help you.

collusion isn't a legal term.
Mueller looked for "conspired or coordinated" as he was running a special counsel legal investigation.
For you to say "but collusion" -when the report said not - is typical. you gota be the dumbest A-hole on here
and that takes talent! *back on ignore*

did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.