The evidence is clear: it’s time to prosecute Donald Trump

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On 8 March, a jury took three hours to render a guilty verdict against Guy Reffitt, a January 6 insurrectionist. Donald Trump could not have been pleased. DC is where Trump would be tried for any crimes relating to his admitted campaign to overturn the election.

Jurors there would have no trouble finding that the evidence satisfies all statutory elements required to convict Trump, including his criminal intent, the most challenging to prove. That is our focus here.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ump-criminal-charges-january-6-capitol-attack
 
The former president is vulnerable to charges of conspiring to defraud the United States, 18 USC §371, and obstructing a congressional proceeding, 18 USC §1512(c)(2).

Regarding §371’s intent requirement, the US supreme court has ruled that conspiracies to defraud the United States include plots entered “for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful functions of any department of Government” using “deceit, craft or trickery, or ... means that are dishonest”.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ump-criminal-charges-january-6-capitol-attack
 
Earl said:
Lol!


Trump, Trump, Trump!
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Yeah - we know; you guys don't like talking about Trump. I guess you're embarrassed that you voted for him?

But man, just that phone call to the GA election official ALONE. Can you imagine if Biden was recorded on a call, asking someone to "find" votes for him?
 
Jarod said:
What would be the charge?
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18 U.S. Code § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371
 
Jarod said:
What would be the charge?
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18 U.S. Code § 1512 - Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1)influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2)cause or induce any person to—
(A)withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B)alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C)evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D)be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process; or

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512
 
If Tribe was the US A.G. we would have seen a conviction by now

From his editorial:

"Fifth, Trump’s failure for three hours to call off the siege after it began, notwithstanding violent televised images and entreaties from his children, advisers and allies – despite his undoubted duty to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed” – was manifestly “depraved”.

Sixth, when Trump belatedly asked the insurrectionists to go home, he called them “patriots” who should “remember this day for ever”. A federal judge wrote in an 18 February opinion that “a reasonable observer could read that tweet as ratifying the violence and other illegal acts that took place that day”.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ump-criminal-charges-january-6-capitol-attack
 
BidenPresident said:
18 U.S. Code § 1512 - Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant

(b)Whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person, with intent to—
(1)influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding;
(2)cause or induce any person to—
(A)withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object, from an official proceeding;
(B)alter, destroy, mutilate, or conceal an object with intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding;
(C)evade legal process summoning that person to appear as a witness, or to produce a record, document, or other object, in an official proceeding; or
(D)be absent from an official proceeding to which such person has been summoned by legal process; or

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512
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I am sure he’s guilty of that, but what evidence do you have?
 
BidenPresident said:
The former president is vulnerable to charges of conspiring to defraud the United States, 18 USC §371, and obstructing a congressional proceeding, 18 USC §1512(c)(2).

Regarding §371’s intent requirement, the US supreme court has ruled that conspiracies to defraud the United States include plots entered “for the purpose of impairing, obstructing or defeating the lawful functions of any department of Government” using “deceit, craft or trickery, or ... means that are dishonest”.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ump-criminal-charges-january-6-capitol-attack
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I think the evidence is week, but there. Although I’m not aware of everything they found in the emails and phone conversations.
 
Trust me I want to see him prosecuted, but unless there’s more I just don’t see it. I thought it was more likely he’ll be prosecuted in New York for fraud getting his loans… But it appears they have backed up on that.
 
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