The Donald Trump Impeachment Clock Is Ticking

blackascoal said:
If I buy you a primer on socialism, would you read it?

No disrespect my friend, but you haven't got a clue about what socialism is.

It's an economic system, not a political one .. thus, it easily fits within various political systems, including this one. Socialism is here, always has been, and always will be. In fact, it's growing .. and if you have any problems seeing that .. ask yourself why republicans can't get rid of Obamacare.

Liberals are FAR more compassionate than anyone else in this country .. FAR more compassionate than you are, FAR, FAR better for women.

You don't really care about compassion .. you care about money.
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I care about money in the sense that capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any other economic system. At the end of the day that's compassion.

I live in the most liberals area of the country and money dominates here. I post all the time about housing and other things that occur and people rarely care but it's a perfect example of liberals caring about their economic interest, not the greater good. I point out the sexism of the Silicon Valley. Again no one cares because they vote "the right way".

So some rich person who cares about themselves isn't more compassionate because they vote democrat compared to someone involved in the community, helping others etc but votes republican
 
I'll throw this out as an example. My father-in-law is a big Catholic. He spends the large majority of his free time volunteering with his church. He helps feed the homeless, work with refugees, raise money for the red cross among other things. The man is about as compassionate as it gets. I also don't know how he votes. Not something we've discussed.

Is what he does irrelevant, should whether he is compassionate or not be determined by how he votes?
 
cawacko said:
I care about money in the sense that capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any other economic system. At the end of the day that's compassion.

I live in the most liberals area of the country and money dominates here. I post all the time about housing and other things that occur and people rarely care but it's a perfect example of liberals caring about their economic interest, not the greater good. I point out the sexism of the Silicon Valley. Again no one cares because they vote "the right way".

So some rich person who cares about themselves isn't more compassionate because they vote democrat compared to someone involved in the community, helping others etc but votes republican
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Socialism is nothing more than the mindset that a person can have compassion because he/she supported using someone else's money to fund what he/she claims to believe but won't support him/herself. Ever noticed how the self proclaimed compassionate Liberals will tell you that they don't have a problem if the government taxes them more to support some feel good program? If they truly believed in what they claim to support and were as compassionate as they claim, why do they have to be told to do something they say should be done?
 
cawacko said:
I care about money in the sense that capitalism has brought more people out of poverty than any other economic system. At the end of the day that's compassion.

I live in the most liberals area of the country and money dominates here. I post all the time about housing and other things that occur and people rarely care but it's a perfect example of liberals caring about their economic interest, not the greater good. I point out the sexism of the Silicon Valley. Again no one cares because they vote "the right way".

So some rich person who cares about themselves isn't more compassionate because they vote democrat compared to someone involved in the community, helping others etc but votes republican
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Dude, you vote republican .. AND, you're a quasi-libertarian. You care about money, not compassion. Get real. :0)

How much 'community involvement' are you into?

I've spent much of my life involved in community and the VAST majority of people working in communities are from the Left.

Your side doesn't even believe Americans should have health care .. leave it up to 'market forces.'

That's not compassion.
 
cawacko said:
I'll throw this out as an example. My father-in-law is a big Catholic. He spends the large majority of his free time volunteering with his church. He helps feed the homeless, work with refugees, raise money for the red cross among other things. The man is about as compassionate as it gets. I also don't know how he votes. Not something we've discussed.

Is what he does irrelevant, should whether he is compassionate or not be determined by how he votes?
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I can see compassion in your father-in-law, but not you .. and as you've said, you don't know how he votes.

Yes .. HELL YES, compassion is often determined by how one votes.
 
blackascoal said:
Dude, you vote republican .. AND, you're a quasi-libertarian. You care about money, not compassion. Get real. :0)

How much 'community involvement' are you into?

I've spent much of my life involved in community and the VAST majority of people working in communities are from the Left.

Your side doesn't even believe Americans should have health care .. leave it up to 'market forces.'

That's not compassion.
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I don't have a problem if anyone has healthcare. My problem is when people like you demand I be forced to provide it to someone else.

You claim that everyone should have healthcare. How many of those that don't have it have you personally and privately funded the premiums for so they could get it? You claim to support everyone having it yet you do nothing personally about it other than run your dick sucker about the rest of us being forced to pay for it on their behalf. If you believe someone else should have what they don't have, YOU buy it for them. If you don't and argue from the socialist perspective that you do, that's NOT compassion. Compassion doesn't come from you demanding others be forced to do what your black ass won't do yourself.
 
blackascoal said:
I can see compassion in your father-in-law, but not you .. and as you've said, you don't know how he votes.

Yes .. HELL YES, compassion is often determined by how one votes.
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No. Compassion is determined by whether or not someone personally does what he/she says they believe in. You claim to believe those without healthcare deserve it. The ONLY way you can have compassion in that area is to find all those that don't have it and personally fund it for them. You can't claim compassion because you vote for a candidate that forces others to fund what you claim to believe but won't personally fund.
 
blackascoal said:
Dude, you vote republican .. AND, you're a quasi-libertarian. You care about money, not compassion. Get real. :0)

How much 'community involvement' are you into?

I've spent much of my life involved in community and the VAST majority of people working in communities are from the Left.

Your side doesn't even believe Americans should have health care .. leave it up to 'market forces.'

That's not compassion.
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I've volunteered with Junior Achievemmet and First Tee. Great groups that help kids.

The U.S. has come up with more life lengthening and saving inventions than any other country. That's compassion. That's also the market at work
 
My neighborhood representative on the board of supervisors, who I voted for, is a democrat. The mayor of my city, who I voted for, is a democrat. Does that mean locally I'm compassionate but nationally I'm not?

I've given money to one politician in my life. California's next Governor Democrat Gavin Newsome. Does that make me compassionate?

Did I qualify as compassionate when I voted for Ross Perot the first time I was eligible to vote in '92 or was the only way to be compassionate to vote for Bill Clinton?
 
I'd love to know if Bernanke and Yellon flooding the econony was cheap dollars in the multiple QE programs, hurting savers and seniors and creating more asset bubbles, was compassionate because they were considered dovish.
 
cawacko said:
My neighborhood representative on the board of supervisors, who I voted for, is a democrat. The mayor of my city, who I voted for, is a democrat. Does that mean locally I'm compassionate but nationally I'm not?

I've given money to one politician in my life. California's next Governor Democrat Gavin Newsome. Does that make me compassionate?

Did I qualify as compassionate when I voted for Ross Perot the first time I was eligible to vote in '92 or was the only way to be compassionate to vote for Bill Clinton?
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Thanks for effing-up the 1992 election, Cawacko.
 
blackascoal said:
Trump acts like a guy who has something to hide .. and every real investigative reporter in the country smells blood in the water.

Unbeknownst to you .. Trump's goose has already been cooked. There is no way out of his fate.

Your side should have been smarter.
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nah. he's flamboyant.
why fire Comey, why even TALK TO Russia (Lavrov)? If there was collusion,would he not be circumspect?

"Unbeknownst" = do you have any inside info?

Unlike the #neverTrumpers/Dems/media I'm going to wait and see the memo,and Comey's explanation.

Everything else is bullshit- most especially all the "Russian things"
 
anatta said:
nah. he's flamboyant.
why fire Comey, why even TALK TO Russia (Lavrov)? If there was collusion,would he not be circumspect?

"Unbeknownst" = do you have any inside info?

Unlike the #neverTrumpers/Dems/media I'm going to wait and see the memo,and Comey's explanation.

Everything else is bullshit- most especially all the "Russian things"
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Would you like to walk to your room in the insane asylum or would you rather be dragged kicking and screaming?
 
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