ExpressLane
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Indeed.
The Democrats stupid strategy on promoting election deniers & extremists
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BartenderElite
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I was going to let this glaring example of how dishonest you & PMP are slide, but happy to keep bumping it.
None of those "indeed" citations have to do w/ my "significant" claim. I actually posted 3 separate links to support that claim, all of which clearly showed that large numbers of Republicans believed some or all of QAnon conspiracy theories. You were left w/ nothing but the usual "those are liberal polls." Yet you produced zilch for your "almost none of the right" claim.
This thread was embarrassing. It really just showed that you simply can't admit when you're wrong.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I thought no one knew who he is......
BartenderElite
Verified User
Response #53 on this thread.
You responded to it - but didn't address it.
You lied repeatedly about what I claimed.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
And, it's highly likely they will lose big in a couple of weeks. The Left (same thing as Democrats now) has made the same mistakes they always make when confronted by a situation where they are getting serious pushback against their agenda.
That is they:
Demonize their opponents. Name calling rarely works in politics. Smear campaigns are not highly effective, particularly when you are insulting a majority of voters.
Focus on the wrong things. Abortion, Trump, and Jan 6, as but three examples are losing issues. People are focused on what affects them in the now: Inflation, energy prices, job killing regulation, and forced social behavior like being forced into a union (California AB 5 for example).
Misreading the crowd. The Left is insular. They chatter among themselves, ostracizing anyone who disagrees. As they control a majority of media, they can avoid listening to or understanding their opposition. They then get blindsided in elections.
They convince themselves they are right and push messaging that supports that. Everyone that opposes them is a MAGA Republican for example. Not at all true, but the Left never examines that.
You see this in BE's post. "Conspiracy believers and even lunatics..." The Left's idea of a "moderate, reasonable Republican" is Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney. That is, a nearly spineless RINO that goes along to get along. Romney is the perfect example. Remember Romney's second debate with Obama? That's the one where the supposedly neutral moderator, CNN's Candi Crowley injected herself into the middle of it taking on Romney directly. Romney just barely raised a fuss or objection and the debate went on as if nothing odd occurred.
With the generation of Republican candidates now, you are getting the Trumps and Lakes who the second something like that occurs, they are in your face telling you to butt out and STFU. They begin tossing back facts and positions the Left absolutely hates. A perfect example is Lake telling off a reporter about "election deniers," where she waves pages of documents saying, "Here's one-hundred and fifty Democrats that denied election results!" The reporter was literally stunned. She didn't know what to say in return.
Of course, the MSM immediately went into damage control mode and attacked Lake with vitriol, insults, ad hominem, and counterfactual lies and spin.
Like it or don't that's the political atmosphere we have going into the November election. I've seen it since I went to college decades ago. The Left never changes.
Oh, this isn't about who would be better in office. It's about how the Left and the Rest-of-society interact. When you get to crazies on the Right that equal the Left in this nobody gives a shit about them. We don't have out-and-out neo-Nazis, White supremacists, or Sovereign citizens--as three examples--running for office anywhere. We do have Socialists, near-Communists, woke Social and Economic Justice lunatics, and the like running, however.
The problem for the Democrats is they need to ditch the Left in their party and veer back towards the Center. Until they do, they are increasingly fucked.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Any conversation that touches upon the existence of acceptable or reasonable Republicans is an exercise in futility.
They don't exist, probably haven't since Eisenhower, and to mention them as if they did is to reveal oneself as an idiot.
If Republicans exist anywhere other than gulags, penitentiaries, or crematories in this country, we know that this nation is well on its way down history's toilet drain.
They don't exist, probably haven't since Eisenhower, and to mention them as if they did is to reveal oneself as an idiot.
If Republicans exist anywhere other than gulags, penitentiaries, or crematories in this country, we know that this nation is well on its way down history's toilet drain.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I addressed it....I updated your "lies" statistic......
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
BartenderElite's groaning my post without even attempting a rebuttal is one more proof I am spot on in my assessment...
BartenderElite
Verified User
I groaned because you're completely oblivious to the extremism in your own party, and have been since 1/6. Maybe before that - but you downplay all of the radical elements in the GOP. Which are currently controlling the GOP.
And you absolutely have to be kidding by characterizing the Dems as "demonizing opponents." Both parties do - if I had to bet, I'd say Republicans do it far, far more.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
its amazing how you can totally ignore everything you people have said about Trump in the last six years.......
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
What you call "extremism" is anything that runs counter to Leftist dogma and thinking. You then, as I pointed out earlier drag Jan 6 into this needlessly.
How many political enemies did Trump sic the FBI on? How many has the Biden administration sicked them on?
Which party was for making elections into a Third World farce? Hint: For the Voters Act, John Lewis Voting Act...
Which party is in collusion with tech media to shut out opposing views and opinions?
Which party is for forcing workers into unions?
Which party is against school choice, healthcare choice, the nuclear family, and generational accumulation of wealth?
Which party doesn't want you to own, a gun, a car, or a single-family home?
You tell me which party is "extreme."
BartenderElite
Verified User
Republicans. By a mile.
Did you catch Trump's recent rally? Most were flashing the Q sign, playing the Q music. It's a party of conspiracy theorists now.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Is that so? Provide some examples. You have pictures of what you claim?
Oh, copying Lurch's groan everything you don't like or agree with isn't going to work for a New York second. I will continue to demolish you, and other Leftists, regardless. It's sad that you in your own tiny way are reduced to nothing but groaning posts you don't like because you are too much of a mental midget to actually produce a rational, factual rebuttal.
BartenderElite
Verified User
LOL - so, you didn't see it. And you probably don't know about the polls showing that significant #'s of Republicans believe some or all of the Q conspiracies. And you probably don't know that 291 Republican candidates this fall are election deniers.
Your party went off the rails. Sorry 'bout that.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
You aren't sorry, you're pathetic. Just because the Left claims someone is an "election denier" doesn't make it so. As the Kari Lake video I posted earlier shows, when confronted by that bullshit, the smart candidate pushes back with facts. She shut the MSM down completely with her answers. Yet, the Left will continue to purvey the lie she's an "election denier." Won't save Katie Hobbs from being creamed in next month's election.
In fact, as in 2016, I predict the Left will go off the rails with political violence when they lose the midterms.
BartenderElite
Verified User
It's hard to believe that you don't see the election denial movement in your own party.
Trump is still the leader of your party. In case you haven't noticed, almost anyone who says a word against him has been primaried and defeated. Adherence to the idea that the 2020 election was rigged is the price of admission to today's GOP.
The left is just what the left always is - for decades. This new breed of Republican is going to end the republic if given their chance. Kari Lake is the perfect leader for that movement. She's a complete demagogue, but her years in the media have made her presentation so smooth and savvy that it's harder to spot.
She's the one Dems should be terrified of. Americans in general should.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Well, reality is always hard for the Left to grasp...
No, I'm an independent voter. Trump doesn't control independent voters.
The Left doesn't deal in reality, facts, objectivity, or openness. They are totalitarian, closed-minded, dogmatic, and irrational. The Left should be feared for what they might fuck up next if they get into power--Like Biden has done for two years now...
BartenderElite
Verified User
You deflecting to the left is just more proof that I'm spot on w/ my assessment.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
How is anything I stated, a "deflect(ion)?"
Unlike you, that hasn't given a single answer so far that addresses anything I've said, I have given answers that directly address your responses. As is typical of the Left, you try a combination of red herrings and ad hominem in hopes that your uselessly weak responses will be enough for the opposition to just go away.
BartenderElite
Verified User
"Ad hominen."
You keep using that term. Are you sure you know what it means?
You keep using that term. Are you sure you know what it means?