The day the dinosaurs died

Sorry. We seem to be completely agreed that dedicating one's life or assets to science is one of our most noblest endeavors. Not everyone agrees and I get touchy whenever someone edges close to "they oughta make them do it" territory. Sorry. :)

Did you see the documentary on the T-Rex "Dinosaur 13"? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3090252/ It's free with the IMDB app.

Good movie about people getting screwed over the ownership of, what Indiana Jones would say, "Belongs in a Museum". Which is where it is, but you'll see in the movie why it's controversial.

Nobody should get screwed over by others. Period.


I think private property owners should be left to their own devices on how to deal with situations like this.

I would not want someone coming in with a bulldozer to dig up garden variety remains of trilobites, conodants, arrowheads. That is not much of a contribution to science, it might only merit a master's degree thesis.

On the other hand, if there were evidence of a significant archeological or paleontological site on my property, I would be open to providing access to reputable researchers, if my expenses were covered.

I have not seen that T-Rex movie but it sounds cool!

In my opinion, there is too much of a tendency to put science on a pedestal. I can't really say it is noble to pursue science, anymore than it is to pursue a plethora of other fields. I personally think it's cool to dedicate one's life to pursuing the deepest questions of nature and reality. But the fact is, 90 percent of scientific research is pointless trivia. I was having this debate the other day: I think truly original and important human scientific, philosophical, technological achievement is advanced by a relatively small number of exceptional people driven by creativity, vision, and talent. The rest of us are just making incremental improvements to the widgets. :)
 
I think private property owners should be left to their own devices on how to deal with situations like this.

I would not want someone coming in with a bulldozer to dig up garden variety remains of trilobites, conodants, arrowheads. That is not much of a contribution to science, it might only merit a master's degree thesis.

On the other hand, if there were evidence of a significant archeological or paleontological site on my property, I would be open to providing access to reputable researchers, if my expenses were covered.

I have not seen that T-Rex movie but it sounds cool!

In my opinion, there is too much of a tendency to put science on a pedestal. I can't really say it is noble to pursue science, anymore than it is to pursue a plethora of other fields. I personally think it's cool to dedicate one's life to pursuing the deepest questions of nature and reality. But the fact is, 90 percent of scientific research is pointless trivia. I was having this debate the other day: I think truly original and important human scientific, philosophical, technological achievement is advanced by a relatively small number of exceptional people driven by creativity, vision, and talent. The rest of us are just making incremental improvements to the widgets. :)

It's both interesting because of the find itself but also the bureaucratic/legal hellhole it goes through.

Agreed. There's always some abnormal person doing something really great or really stupid. :)

Most of us are in the norm. ;)

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It's both interesting because of the find itself but also the bureaucratic/legal hellhole it goes through.

Agreed. There's always some abnormal person doing something really great or really stupid. :)

Most of us are in the norm. ;)

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95 percent of us are just building with bricks other people gave us.
 
The only thing that bothered me a little bit was the rancher charging fees for profit to allow access to the rock formation. Unless he and his family are starving, I don't know why one has to profit off key scientific findings.

The article stated that previous collectors had dug around on the site (with permission) and mucked it up. We should be grateful, I guess, that they didn't just bulldoze it up to find fossils to sell.

It was a great article. I didn't realize that it had been written by one of my favorite fiction writers, Doug Preston. His Tyrannosaur Canyon is awesome.
 
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95 percent of us are just building with bricks other people gave us.

To serve as a launching pad for the true geniuses. Especially all the stable ones. :thup:

What could Einstein have done if a nomad? Nothing that he was able to do in a modern society. He stood on the foundation of 10,000 years of civilization to achieve greater heights. Humans can only reach so far by themselves.

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The article stated that previous collectors had dug around on the site (with permission) and mucked it up. We should be grateful, I guess, that they didn't just bulldoze it up to find fossils to sell.

It was a great article. I didn't realize that it had been written by one of my favorite fiction writers, Doug Preston. His Tyrannosaur Canyon is awesome.

The article mentioned a fan had written him about his book. I hadn't heard of him before but the topic is fascinating.
 
The article stated that previous collectors had dug around on the site (with permission) and mucked it up. We should be grateful, I guess, that they didn't just bulldoze it up to find fossils to sell.

It was a great article. I didn't realize that it had been written by one of my favorite fiction writers, Doug Preston. His Tyrannosaur Canyon is awesome.

Never heard of Mr. Preston, but anyone who loves dinosaurs is okay by me!
 
To serve as a launching pad for the true geniuses. Especially all the stable ones. :thup:

What could Einstein have done if a nomad? Nothing that he was able to do in a modern society. He stood on the foundation of 10,000 years of civilization to achieve greater heights. Humans can only reach so far by themselves.

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Standing on the shoulders of Giants.

The thing that Einstein and Newton had was a vision of seeing things in an entirely new light. They had the same bricks we had to build on but they just had that rare gift of creativity and vision to see just beyond the horizon of accepted knowledge.
 
Standing on the shoulders of Giants.

The thing that Einstein and Newton had was a vision of seeing things in an entirely new light. They had the same bricks we had to build on but they just had that rare gift of creativity and vision to see just beyond the horizon of accepted knowledge.

Agreed. It's those flashes of brilliance that allow the regular bricklayers to make progress.

Did you ever read about Thomas Edison using Lucid Dreaming?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ck-your-creative-genius-without-really-trying
The semi-lucid dream trick: how to unlock your creative genius – without really trying
A new study suggests interrupted hypnagogia, a technique beloved of Salvador Dalí and Thomas Edison, can boost creativity

I use it on a light manner; if working on a minor issue like building my archery target and backstop, I'd go to bed thinking about it and just letting my mind drift on the topic.
 
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