The Brits Are Turning

yet none of the companies that have threatened to close if brexit happened have actually done so :)

The UK would be better of without the poorer area of scotland and north ireland but the scots and irish know that so wouldnt want to break away :)

Your repeated use of the smiley just makes you seem more blissfully ignorant.
 
yet none of the companies that have threatened to close if brexit happened have actually done so :)

The UK would be better of without the poorer area of scotland and north ireland but the scots and irish know that so wouldnt want to break away :)

We heard exactly the same bullshit from exactly the same people when we stayed out of the Euro, best decision Gordon Brown ever made. If it had been up to Tony B Liar we'd have been in that fucking disaster zone as well.
 
Shut up twit.

You don't get to state what liberal or democratic opinions are, and then all of a sudden, that becomes a fact.

The idea that democrats don't understand, or care, that if the markets all dive, and companies institute hiring freezes and layoffs, that leads to severe job losses, which negatively impacts the wider economy, which WE are a part of, is a bunch of right wing horseshit.

You do it all the time with conservatives and white males. LOL
 
Why don't you guys wait a bit to see if things continue downward. Right now people are just being reactionary because this is unknown and the markets do not like unknowns. I believe once people realize exactly what this means, the markets will stabilize and return.
 
Why don't you guys wait a bit to see if things continue downward. Right now people are just being reactionary because this is unknown and the markets do not like unknowns. I believe once people realize exactly what this means, the markets will stabilize and return.

Of course they will, it is amazing just how many armchair economic and UK experts there are on JPP all of a sudden.

Ex-Bank of England governor Mervyn King accuses BOTH sides of exaggerating in 'dispiriting' campaign – and says Brexit 'doesn't have to mean' large-scale job cuts


  • Lord King says Remain were guilty of calling Leave supporters 'idiots'
  • He said: 'If you say to someone: "Well you're an idiot if you don't agree with me", then you are not likely to bring them in your direction'
  • Former Bank boss calls emergency budget threat 'nadir' of campaign
  • He said: 'I was baffled by the idea that the emergency budget. That's the last thing you need'
Former Bank of England governor Lord King today blamed the Government for Britain's decision to quit the EU because they treated Leave supporters like 'idiots'. He also called George Osborne's threat to call an emergency budget if Brexit happened the 'nadir' of a campaign he branded 'the most dispiriting in my lifetime'. Lord King also suggested that George Osborne's position as Chancellor is under threat because David Cameron has 'already taken responsibility for the result'. The 68-year-old said that the public had been put off by their campaign's 'scaremongering'.

Speaking to the BBC today he said: 'This was the most dispiriting campaign I can recall in my lifetime. Both sides were exaggerating. I think the Government has to take responsibility for setting the tone for that. 'We had all sorts of scare stories and I was travelling around the UK a lot at the time and I was struck by how many people said to me that they didn't like the scaremongering tactics. 'They (voters) didn't like to be told that if they were to vote Leave they would be idiots. And if you say to someone: "Well you're an idiot if you don't agree with me", then you are not likely to bring them in your direction'.

Lord King said that the Remain campaign were right to say that Brexit would cause economic uncertainty, but claimed they then went too far. He said: 'I do think they said things that were not easy to sustain or support. It's true there was a great deal of economic uncertainty about the outcome and that would have been enough to make their case. 'But they went way beyond that about the precise numbers that could be used to say how much our living standards might fall'.

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Pressure: Lord King suggested that George Osborne could be forced to leave the Treasury after David Cameron fell on his sword

And piling pressure on George Osborne, who refused to quit today, he said: 'Well the prime minister has taken responsibility for the result and has stood down and I think the Treasury is in a difficult position now because it did make very clear forecasts that were exaggerated. 'We have already seen this morning there will not be an emergency budget and I think that was the nadir. I was baffled by the idea that the emergency budget'. He added: 'That's the last thing you need'.

But Lord King, who ran the Bank of England for more than a decade, said voting leave does not have to cause major job cuts. He said: 'The City is much more than a small number of banks. Some will have to expand or make new subsidiaries to carry out the clearing of euro transactions, but that doesn't have to mean the loss of a huge number of jobs'.

An emergency budget to deal with the fallout from the referendum vote to leave the EU looks unlikely to take place until the autumn, as Chancellor George Osborne said it was better to delay action to shore up the public finances until a new prime minister is in place.
In an early-morning statement at the Treasury designed to calm market anxieties after the pound fell a further 2% against the US dollar in overnight trading, Mr Osborne insisted that the UK economy is 'about as strong as it could be to confront the challenge our country now faces' and said Britain remains 'open for business'.
 
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it's the establishment part of the parties that support Wall St. Clinton et all - but also the Republicans..agree on that
Do you think Trump is pro labor? maybe - at least he and sanders are against the TPP. Hillary shape shifts on that -who knows?

Trump wants to bring "jobs back"..just how that is done....

Easy.
Like Mitt all he has to do is close his Chinese factories and open American ones.
 
yet none of the companies that have threatened to close if brexit happened have actually done so :)

The UK would be better of without the poorer area of scotland and north ireland but the scots and irish know that so wouldnt want to break away :)

Yet you idiot.
 
Oh yes pisspot, the markets will stabilize, especially with the BOE and the Treasury ready to spend billions to shore it up..the UK? Now that's a different story.

So anyway, what is this "Good deal" you are wanting out of the turkey talk in Brussels? Can we see some details of what this good deal you brexiters are going to walk away with?
 
Yet you idiot.

You know fuck all about even less. The Scots are all piss and wind like you. Nicola Sturgeon has been put back in her box, she can't even begin to talk about joining the EU until the Article 50 talks have been concluded and they could take several years.
 
Easy.
Like Mitt all he has to do is close his Chinese factories and open American ones.
he does mention Chinese currency manipulation - which is more doable then bringing jobs back.
He might be able to stop a few from leaving; but globalization is..well a global reach ..

The best that could be hoped for is no TPP (etc.) and maybe stopping some relocations to Mexico..

China holds a bunch of our debt. That's leverage we can't touch
 
BTW, an interesting aside. There seems to be some speculation brought upon by implications within comments coming from EU leaders, as well as UK leaders, that there is a backstage plan to never trigger article 50.

I can't tell you how many comments I have seen from the Brexiters vowing to vote UKIP if that is what ends up happening.

And that is how a Farage comes to power. It's called an unintended consequence.
 
Tom the Tit needs to have a chat with Credit Suisse and straighten them out. They seem to have no idea what a "good deal" Tom is going to get when his fellow tits arrive in Brussels to talk turkey.

Credit Suisse forecasts a UK recession in 2017
Credit Suisse sees the UK tumbling into a recession in 2017.

The investment bank highlights four potential threats to UK growth:

5% of the UK workforce are EU citizens who do not qualify under the new Visa requirements. 1% point of employment growth in the each of the past two years has come from EU nationals;

Europe is likely to be tough on trade negotiations to discourage other EU nations from following the UK's example;

4.5% of UK GDP is accounted for by service sector exports to Continental Europe, where the UK runs a large surplus. Europe has consistently discriminated against financial services (for example, last year it tried to stop the Euro being cleared in non- Euro area countries). This poses a risk.

Nearly half of UK FDI (4.5% of GDP) has come from EU nations and is there to exploit access to the EU markets.
 
You know what, I can't even post anymore. Because it's so bad. More bad news by the minute. And it sounds like I'm gloating. And I'm not. What a disaster these morons (and they are morons, in America they are the Trump supporters, period) visited upon the UK. Sure I gloat about Tom, and I hope the worst of it is visited on him, but this disaster is nothing to gloat over otherwise.

S & P just downgraded the UK and gave a detailed negative outlook as well. John Llewellyn just gave a statement that would set anyone's hair on fire. And so there really is nothing more to say. God bless the sane people in the Uk who have had their futures and their countries set on fire by these lunatics. Pray the Trumpsters don't succeed in doing it to us. And that's it.
 
Tom the Tit needs to have a chat with Credit Suisse and straighten them out. They seem to have no idea what a "good deal" Tom is going to get when his fellow tits arrive in Brussels to talk turkey.

Credit Suisse forecasts a UK recession in 2017
Credit Suisse sees the UK tumbling into a recession in 2017.

The investment bank highlights four potential threats to UK growth:

5% of the UK workforce are EU citizens who do not qualify under the new Visa requirements. 1% point of employment growth in the each of the past two years has come from EU nationals;

Europe is likely to be tough on trade negotiations to discourage other EU nations from following the UK's example;

4.5% of UK GDP is accounted for by service sector exports to Continental Europe, where the UK runs a large surplus. Europe has consistently discriminated against financial services (for example, last year it tried to stop the Euro being cleared in non- Euro area countries). This poses a risk.

Nearly half of UK FDI (4.5% of GDP) has come from EU nations and is there to exploit access to the EU markets.
Will the EU even talk to Britain informally till Article 50 is invoked? There was talk they would not, wanting Britain to exit as soon as possible!
 
You know what, I can't even post anymore. Because it's so bad. More bad news by the minute. And it sounds like I'm gloating. And I'm not. What a disaster these morons (and they are morons, in America they are the Trump supporters, period) visited upon the UK. Sure I gloat about Tom, and I hope the worst of it is visited on him, but this disaster is nothing to gloat over otherwise.

S & P just downgraded the UK and gave a detailed negative outlook as well. John Llewellyn just gave a statement that would set anyone's hair on fire. And so there really is nothing more to say. God bless the sane people in the Uk who have had their futures and their countries set on fire by these lunatics. Pray the Trumpsters don't succeed in doing it to us. And that's it.

And somehow, I keep seeing "why are lefties so butthurt" posts.

I mean, I'm really not sure how bad things have to get before it really sinks in for the Trump crowd.
 
Oh YES ! Let's have the referendum again. And AGAIN if necessary, until we get the result that all the pseudo-intellectuals like Darla and Guardian readers wanted, but were thwarted by the fuckin' barrow boy cannon fodder like me and my low life partners in crime. And then maybe we wouldn't have forty eight percent of us walking around with a face like a bulldog that's just licked some piss off a bed of nettles.
 
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And somehow, I keep seeing "why are lefties so butthurt" posts.

I mean, I'm really not sure how bad things have to get before it really sinks in for the Trump crowd.

Because lefties are supposedly for the working class who voted to leave. This downturn is temporary because the elites are freaking out.
 
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