The Borking of Palin

cool, but we have to disregard your 'viable' request because it would not really have relevance unless I picked the mayor of podunk, arkansas.

so, to continue....

during the runups to the primary voting, republicans had at least 3 better choices than mccain, had they not been swayed by MSM media campaigning. These are in no particular order of popularity.

1. Fred Thompson (he would actually have gotten my vote over ron paul)
2. Tom Tancredo
3. Ron Paul

Now, I understand most people will not want to include ron paul due to his viability, but again, i'm simply referring to those more conservative than mccain.


Well, of course there were candidates more conservative, but none of them had any chance whatsoever. Thus, my assessment that Republican voters chose the most conservative of the viable.
 
questioning is criticizing? got it.

"Some Republican leader has told them that the Republican leadership is right now as we speak coalescing to find somebody to oppose Sarah Palin. They didn't identify whoever this "Republican leader is," so I can't tell you who it is, but they say that there's a Republican talking to them at Politico that they are trying to find somebody to beat back Palin, from the Republican establishment, because they are convinced that if Palin is the nominee, the party loses. That's, at least, what they say. It could also be they're scared to death that Palin wins it's the end of them: The Republican establishment.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102910/content/01125115.guest.html
 
The more I hear, the more I am convinced, the strategy being implemented against Sarah Palin, is the exact same strategy we saw employed against former Supreme Court nominee, Robert Bork. The incessant buzz from the left, criticizing every aspect of Palin, to the point that moderates on the right are too scared to dare support her. So, we end up with hardcore liberals and moderate conservatives, forming an unlikely coalition to oppose and reject Sarah Palin. So far, this plan has worked out beautifully, and most Americans don't see Sarah Palin being able to defeat Obama in 2012.

What needs to be realized by the so-called moderate conservatives who aren't supportive of Palin at all, is how this is exactly what the left has done over and over again, since the strategy worked on Robert Bork. This is precisely why we ended up with John McCain as the opposing candidate in 2008. McCain was viewed as someone who didn't anger the left, he was someone who could "reach across the aisle" and work with the other side, and was considered to be the "favorite Republican" by the left, up until he announced his run for president. When Al Gore was searching for a potential running mate, he actually had John on his short list! So we went with a watered down conservative, in hopes of not pissing off the vitriolic left, but did that work? NOPE! What needs to be understood is, the LEFT is going to be vehemently opposed to ANYONE nominated by Republicans. We're going to hear all sorts of negative comments, smears, slimes, jeers, criticisms, complaints, allegations, accusations, rumors and innuendo about WHOEVER we elect to run against Obama in 2012. Non-stop, 24/7, relentlessly, up until the day of the election.... you may as well prepare yourself for this, it's their strategy!

The thing about Palin is, they've already been doing this for the past two years. How much more mud can they possibly come up with to throw, and still capture the imagination of American voters? At some point, people get weary of the personal attacks, they simply don't have the same effect... in fact, in the case of Bill Clinton, it actually started to create an underlying 'sympathy' for him, people began to take his side in spite of all his problems, because he became an underdog, relentlessly attacked by 'the system' and Americans are sentimental about their underdogs. The same could happen with Palin, as the empty rhetoric continues to flow, people start to realize Palin isn't deserving of that sort of treatment, and the mud-slinging approach simply has the opposite effect. This all remains to be seen, but given the fact that we've endured two solid years of Palin bashing, and she remains a top contender for 2012, says a lot. Bork certainly didn't survive that long, neither did George W. Bush or Newt Gingrich.

I keep hearing the clamor for Mitt Romney, but it's very crucial to remember, Romney was elected governor of the most liberal state in America. A Massachusetts conservative is someone who believes you should wear a tie to a gay wedding! Is THIS who we need to lead a new revival of core conservative philosophy? Really? Or is it more of the "McCainist" mentality, that if we nominate a Romney, the left won't be so critical and relentless in their bashing and trashing? They may actually LIKE our nominee! Conservatives have got to abandon this mindset, if we ever hope to return to core conservative principles. Sucking up to and appeasing liberals, has not gained Republicans one thing, and has arguably destroyed the gains made in advancing the principles under Ronald Reagan. We seem to have abandoned those principles in search of someone the left will find "acceptable" and how long will it take before moderates understand, that just isn't going to happen?

Yes, Sarah Palin is a lighting rod... Yes, Sarah Palin can make a comment on her Facebook page and have the liberals all in a tizzy for a week over it! Her daughter can go on Dancing With the Stars, and liberals are pulling out their Magnums and blowing away their TV! Even people we consider to be mainstream conservatives, are jumping on the Anti-Palin bandwagon, and lobbing mudballs of their own! She is polarizing and seems to strike a nerve with the left, like no one else I can remember in my lifetime... but why? The only explanation I can find is, she is a threat. The left knows she has a tremendous public following, and she appeals to a great many Americans on a personal level, and this could be real trouble if the momentum continues. Those on the right who oppose her, are mostly afraid that if she did manage to get elected, it would further polarize the left and right, and we'd have another George Bush Syndrome... but... my theory is, that's going to happen anyway, because liberals know they can Bork whoever they need to, whenever they need to, and knee-jerk moderates will respond. It doesn't matter if we pick a 'moderate' like Romney or McCain, they will demonize them and turn them into pariahs all the same, because they aren't Marxist Socialists! My thinking is, if we are inevitably going to have to endure the bashing and trashing from the relentless left, it might as well be against someone who stands for solid core conservative values and principles, and not some wishy-washy appeaser who wants to cave to the liberals to get along.

Bottom line is this... If she runs, she will probably win the GOP nomination. At that point, establishment, moderate, libertarian, McCainian-type, Romneyites, will have to make a hard choice. If they stubbornly refuse to support her against Obama, he will win re-election. If that happens, we may not ever have to worry about this again, another 4 years of Marxist Socialism, and we may not even have the right to vote for a president... if our government is not completely overthrown or collapsed by 2016. So now you guys can line up and repost all your usual complaints of Palin, all the same old rhetoric, all the same condescending complaints and garbage... just keep rehashing it over and over again, and insisting she can't win, she's not qualified, she doesn't deserve your vote... whatever... And "republicans" can keep on joining liberals in the bashfest, with the idiot mindset they are somehow "helping" the conservative movement. We'll have to see if America has learned anything from the days of Bork, through Newt, and on to Bush and McCain. Can the liberals successfully destroy Sarah Palin using these same tactics yet again? Will the so-called "moderates" fall for the same thing once more? Or will true conservatives dig down deep inside, and understand, it doesn't matter what the other side says, it doesn't matter that they don't like our candidate, and the only thing that matters is how we ultimately vote.

Oh Dixie you hopeless Nitwit. The only one borking Palin is her husband. She doesn't even compare to Bork. Bork was a nationally renowned consitutional scholar who held very controversial views and made far to many political enemies when he played Nixons hatchet man during the Saturday night massacre and the firing of Archibald Cox. One of the scummiest acts in the entire history of American politics. Bork got what he dieserved and my heart pumps piss for him.

Let's be clear about a couple things in making this comparison.

First, Palin is not ever fucking remotely in the same league as Bork either professionally or intellectually. I'm sitting with in spitting distance at this moment of at least 35 people who are better qualified and have superior intellect to Palin and I don't even mean that with the least little bit of ill will towards her. It's just an objective fact.

Second, She's no where ever freaken close to be the scum bucket Bork was no does she have the collosal and well earned ill will of the American public that even remotely approaches that held for Bork. Nominating him was probably the single most stupid thing Reagan did as President.

So, in other words, this is just another one of your long winded paranoid delusions.
 
Last edited:
"Some Republican leader has told them that the Republican leadership is right now as we speak coalescing to find somebody to oppose Sarah Palin. They didn't identify whoever this "Republican leader is," so I can't tell you who it is, but they say that there's a Republican talking to them at Politico that they are trying to find somebody to beat back Palin, from the Republican establishment, because they are convinced that if Palin is the nominee, the party loses. That's, at least, what they say. It could also be they're scared to death that Palin wins it's the end of them: The Republican establishment.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102910/content/01125115.guest.html

of course the republican establishment is scared, as well they should be. they know that without the middle of the road independents, they can't win, and they've already been shown that what we want is not what they want. so i imagine what they'll try to do is find someone that has always been just on the outside of the establishment with regards to a media image, like jeb bush or rick perry, and run him as the ideal TEA candidate in wolfs clothing.
 
Its going to be very interesting. While Obama seems failry unpopular, I suspect he gets reelected unless the R's can come up with someone I havent thought of.
 
"Some Republican leader has told them that the Republican leadership is right now as we speak coalescing to find somebody to oppose Sarah Palin. They didn't identify whoever this "Republican leader is," so I can't tell you who it is, but they say that there's a Republican talking to them at Politico that they are trying to find somebody to beat back Palin, from the Republican establishment, because they are convinced that if Palin is the nominee, the party loses. That's, at least, what they say. It could also be they're scared to death that Palin wins it's the end of them: The Republican establishment.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102910/content/01125115.guest.html

BINGO! That's exactly why the republican establishment is doing everything they can to derail Palin. This will undoubtedly continue, just as it did against Joe Miller and Christine O'Donnell. Republicans under the delusion that the Tea Party (and Sarah Palin) kept them from winning the Senate in the midterms, are clueless. The insurgency in votes for the GOP was directly the result of the Tea Party efforts, and if not for them, the Republicans wouldn't have won the HOUSE! The reason they didn't win the Senate, is because beltway establishment Republicans jumped on the Liberal Hatewagon and started lobbing mud bombs at Tea Party candidates! If they do that with Palin, Obama will probably be re-elected. So it may be time for the beltway establishment republican crowd to start seriously thinking about whether they want 4 more years of Obama, or if they want to get on board with the Tea Party and start embracing core conservative values again, because that will probably be what it all comes down to in the end.

I don't see the GOP (base) nominating another moderate republican like John McCain (et al.; Romney). I see a clear and distinct surge to the right, with a more conservative candidate than we even considered in 2008. Elites may not like that, they may want to try and derail that, and we may see it get really ugly through the primaries, but the voters will have the ultimate say, and the elites are going to have to live with the choice, one way or another. It remains to be seen what Palin can do in a primary race, she has never been in one, the people have never been given the chance to judge Palin at the ballot box, except as McCain's running mate, where HER message was largely being silenced by the McCain camp. Let's see what she can do when she is articulating her own message, on her own terms.

I just think a LOT of mainstream republicans who've had criticism for Palin, need to stop and think about it a little more, before they have to walk back all of this stuff, if she wins the nomination. Save yourself some embarrassment, and leave the door open to an open mind... don't just jump on the liberal talking points and castigate Palin before she even gets started, that's foolish, in my opinion. That's exactly what liberals hope will happen, and why they are so vocal against Palin. Leave the possibility open, don't keep trashing and bashing along with the liberals, because it may come back to haunt you in the end.

I've listened to Palin, and I don't find disagreement with a damn thing she has said in any of her speeches or writings. I don't consider the usual criticisms of Palin's inexperience or 'lack of gravitas' to be valid, and they certainly are not a standard for how we select presidents, as history will bear out. We've elected former actors, peanut farmers, and community organizers, based on charisma and message.. why would you think that suddenly America is going to change and elect people solely based on experience?

I love to tweak Ron Paul supporters... what would you do, if the ticket were Sarah Palin and Ron Paul as VP? Could you stomach Palin under such a circumstance, and vote for that ticket? Because, in listening to Palin's speeches, much of what she is saying is very much in line with the message of Ron Paul. This is precisely the kind of pairing I would expect to see against Obama in 2012. Palin with a more 'social libertarian' and 'fiscal conservative' platform, might be unbeatable in the general election, especially with Ron Paul as her running mate. It's something to think about, while you are trying to come up with another lame criticism of Sarah Palin.
 
BINGO! That's exactly why the republican establishment is doing everything they can to derail Palin. This will undoubtedly continue, just as it did against Joe Miller and Christine O'Donnell. Republicans under the delusion that the Tea Party (and Sarah Palin) kept them from winning the Senate in the midterms, are clueless.

Would have won Deleware, would have won Nevada. Considering that the Tea Party is weak in both states, the candidates there would have won had they NOT been Tea Party candidates. The people of Deleware liked and respected Mike Castle enough to elect him Senator, and the people of Nevada hate Reid's guts.

Also, how anyone can discount Alaska is beyond me. No one wins a write-in campaign. It simply does not happen, and yet people wrote-in Murkowsi and sent her back to DC.
 
Would have won Deleware, would have won Nevada. Considering that the Tea Party is weak in both states, the candidates there would have won had they NOT been Tea Party candidates. The people of Deleware liked and respected Mike Castle enough to elect him Senator, and the people of Nevada hate Reid's guts.

Also, how anyone can discount Alaska is beyond me. No one wins a write-in campaign. It simply does not happen, and yet people wrote-in Murkowsi and sent her back to DC.

Indeed, the Tea Party is weak in Delaware and Nevada, but the Tea Party candidates MIGHT have won, if the GOP establishment had backed them! They elected Mike Castle in Delaware, he's a Republican! O'Donnell was 2 points ahead of Coons when the primary ended, but the establishment elites did not help O'Donnell, instead, they joined the Democrat liberals in the bashfest of O'Donnell... Rove proclaiming her "unelectable" and such. Had they taken a different tone, who knows? Maybe O'Donnell could have pulled off the win there? The simple fact of the matter was, O'Donnell was left to fend for herself, amid all the negative press, etc... The same is true for Joe Miller in Alaska, the establishment elites backed Murkowski, and once she lost the primaries, they bailed out, and didn't support the Republican nominee. Angle in Nevada experienced the same 'cold shoulder' from establishment Republicans. The fact that she was even IN the race, was a miracle in itself, but with a little help from the establishment, she may have been able to topple the Senate Majority Leader! We'll never know... and now the establishment asswipes are running around claiming they would have won the Senate if it hadn't been for the Tea Party... that's a laugh, the establishment GOP couldn't have gotten elected DOG CATCHERS in 2010! The ONLY momentum the Republicans had, was from the Tea Party itself, and to pretend in the aftermath that they "cost the Republicans" is a fucking joke. They SAVED the Republicans!

The question remains, will the party elites continue to denigrate the Tea Party along with the liberal lefties, or will they see the writing on the wall, and begin to "re-evaluate?" It really seems like they are content to blame the Tea Party for things they aren't responsible for, and pretend it's costing the GOP... that mentality might just "cost" the GOP the White House in 2012!
 
Palin's fighting back! She just came out today and said she "won't waste any time" with Katie Couric anymore, calling her "biased."

I guess simple questions about foreign policy experience & what newspapers she reads are more than she can handle...
 
Palin's fighting back! She just came out today and said she "won't waste any time" with Katie Couric anymore, calling her "biased."

I guess simple questions about foreign policy experience & what newspapers she reads are more than she can handle...

Wow, how dare she call Katie biased! Whatever gave her such an idea? Yeah, I think Palin has better things to do with her time than discuss pop culture with Katie or Oprah, they can go find out what George Clooney likes to read, I'm sure their shallow-minded audience is more interested in that anyway. Palin needs to spend her time with Chris Wallace and David Gregory, answering actual SUBSTANTIVE questions.
 
Wow, how dare she call Katie biased! Whatever gave her such an idea? Yeah, I think Palin has better things to do with her time than discuss pop culture with Katie or Oprah, they can go find out what George Clooney likes to read, I'm sure their shallow-minded audience is more interested in that anyway. Palin needs to spend her time with Chris Wallace and David Gregory, answering actual SUBSTANTIVE questions.

LOL - yeah...questions about foreign policy experience are real "fluff."

You're right, though; hey - maybe she can answer the Bush Doctrine question this time around?
 
LOL - yeah...questions about foreign policy experience are real "fluff."

You're right, though; hey - maybe she can answer the Bush Doctrine question this time around?

Probably not, since Bush isn't the president anymore, and his doctrine has been shitcanned by Obama. I don't think it's pertinent now. But we'll have to wait and see... I am sure whatever she says, you libtards will be hanging on every word and trying your best to distort it and lie about it anyway you can dream up. That's the point I wanted to get across to the moderate elitists, this kind of shit is to be expected from the liberals, doesn't matter who we nominate. Hell, Dennis Freakin Kusinich could switch parties and become a Republican, and win the nomination, and you pinheads would be right here bashing and trashing him in the same exact way, it doesn't matter WHO we nominate, that's your game plan, because that is the only thing you know how to do. We're not ever going to nominate someone who can deflect the criticisms of the left, or not draw heavy fire from the liberal sycophants. To believe that is somehow possible, is just plain foolish. So I say we go ahead and nominate someone you totally and thoroughly HATE... someone you've already invested two years in slinging shit at, trying to destroy, and still haven't been able to... I think THAT person stands as good a chance at defeating your unethical morally bankrupt asses as anyone we could pick!
 
Indeed, the Tea Party is weak in Delaware and Nevada, but the Tea Party candidates MIGHT have won, if the GOP establishment had backed them! They elected Mike Castle in Delaware, he's a Republican! O'Donnell was 2 points ahead of Coons when the primary ended, but the establishment elites did not help O'Donnell, instead, they joined the Democrat liberals in the bashfest of O'Donnell... Rove proclaiming her "unelectable" and such. Had they taken a different tone, who knows? Maybe O'Donnell could have pulled off the win there? The simple fact of the matter was, O'Donnell was left to fend for herself, amid all the negative press, etc... The same is true for Joe Miller in Alaska, the establishment elites backed Murkowski, and once she lost the primaries, they bailed out, and didn't support the Republican nominee. Angle in Nevada experienced the same 'cold shoulder' from establishment Republicans. The fact that she was even IN the race, was a miracle in itself, but with a little help from the establishment, she may have been able to topple the Senate Majority Leader! We'll never know... and now the establishment asswipes are running around claiming they would have won the Senate if it hadn't been for the Tea Party... that's a laugh, the establishment GOP couldn't have gotten elected DOG CATCHERS in 2010! The ONLY momentum the Republicans had, was from the Tea Party itself, and to pretend in the aftermath that they "cost the Republicans" is a fucking joke. They SAVED the Republicans!

The question remains, will the party elites continue to denigrate the Tea Party along with the liberal lefties, or will they see the writing on the wall, and begin to "re-evaluate?" It really seems like they are content to blame the Tea Party for things they aren't responsible for, and pretend it's costing the GOP... that mentality might just "cost" the GOP the White House in 2012!


So, the Tea Party candidates saved the Republicans by losing elections that Republicans should have won handily? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

And the party elites aren't really denigrating the Tea Party. Sarah Palin is not the Tea Party but she has something in common with O'Donnell, Angle and Miller. I'll let you figure out what that is.
 
Probably not, since Bush isn't the president anymore, and his doctrine has been shitcanned by Obama. I don't think it's pertinent now. But we'll have to wait and see... I am sure whatever she says, you libtards will be hanging on every word and trying your best to distort it and lie about it anyway you can dream up. That's the point I wanted to get across to the moderate elitists, this kind of shit is to be expected from the liberals, doesn't matter who we nominate. Hell, Dennis Freakin Kusinich could switch parties and become a Republican, and win the nomination, and you pinheads would be right here bashing and trashing him in the same exact way, it doesn't matter WHO we nominate, that's your game plan, because that is the only thing you know how to do. We're not ever going to nominate someone who can deflect the criticisms of the left, or not draw heavy fire from the liberal sycophants. To believe that is somehow possible, is just plain foolish. So I say we go ahead and nominate someone you totally and thoroughly HATE... someone you've already invested two years in slinging shit at, trying to destroy, and still haven't been able to... I think THAT person stands as good a chance at defeating your unethical morally bankrupt asses as anyone we could pick!


How old are you? For you to just be figuring out that Republicans and Democrats will oppose the presidential candidate of the other party regardless of the characteristics of the candidate is nothing short of stunning.

Hilarious.
 
Back
Top