The Bond folly

[doniston]

I would say "who the hell cares" but apparently a lot of people do. so I will change the question to s simple "WHY"

He is a grown man playing a little boy's game, and hitting a ball with a stick. (when they are younger, they call it "T" Ball. )

So there is a big hubbubb about whether or not he used drugs to get to his (apparently) exhaulted plane. Face it, every successfull athletete does somerthing to enhance his or her prowness. It may be exercise, diet, or drugs, but it is not natural. IT IS ENHANCED

They have a big investigation going on trying to pin something on him, even to the degree that a man has been sitting in Jail since January because he won't tell on Bond.

Big damned deal. it is much ado about nothing, and should cease. Our courts should be involved in much more important things.

Let him and his childish supporters have their dreams of so-called greatness

 

[Blackflag]

cuz bitching on a message board all day long is a greater achievement.

 

[uscitizen]

Ohh I thought this was about 007.....

getting paid millions to play any pro sport is stupid to me.

 

[doniston]

Ohh I thought this was about 007.....

getting paid millions to play any pro sport is stupid to me.

Obviously, I fully agree.

course that is slightly reversed. IMHO, It is stupid to PAY anyone millions to play a pro sport.

 

[Beefy]

Obviously, I fully agree.

course that is slightly reversed. IMHO, It is stupid to PAY anyone millions to play a pro sport.

Why? Its money. If it makes you money, pay for it.

If I were you, I'd pay money to get those saddlebags under your eyes removed, and maybe reupholster the British navy with them.

Just joking. Before you get all excited.

 

[uscitizen]

I consider it strange that we have no problem with a baseball player making milions but the teachers of our children make a modest living at best.
Where does that place our vaues ?

 

[doniston]

I consider it strange that we have no problem with a baseball player making milions but the teachers of our children make a modest living at best.
Where does that place our vaues ?

A good question with a very BAD answer.

 

[uscitizen]

A good question with a very BAD answer.

yep and it is very convenient to blame it on the gummit.

 

[cawacko]

I consider it strange that we have no problem with a baseball player making milions but the teachers of our children make a modest living at best.
Where does that place our vaues ?

Because that's what the market will bare. There are thousands and thousands of teachers in the U.S. while there 500 or so pro baseball players. Why do actors get millions of dollars? Why do writers get millions of dollars? If people didn't want to watch pro sports or the movies then the performers wouldn't make the money they do.

 

[cawacko]

yep and it is very convenient to blame it on the gummit.

who is blaming the government? that's a random answer.

 

[Beefy]

who is blaming the government? that's a random answer.

I think he's having a senior moment. Or maybe an 80 year old woman with a g string showed up to his place with a bottle of merlot and a quart of ben gay and he's gotten distracted.

 

[Damocles]

I consider it strange that we have no problem with a baseball player making milions but the teachers of our children make a modest living at best.
Where does that place our vaues ?

Supply and demand. Teachers, as a whole, make very good salaries. It was negotiated long ago that much of the weight of the benefits and pay of teachers be on the later years of their profession, by their own union. This makes it so they keep promoting a starting salary and pretend that the later salaries have no existence and people believe that they are underpaid.

I have an employee whose wife is a teacher that makes more than every person in my group to teach Middle School, there is a reason for that, she is paid a professional salary as she deserves for her level of education. And this is after much of her starting years were taken off as she moved from another state.

Now, to be frank, there are very few people that can play that sport at that level, and people pay to see such a feat. They are a product, a rarity, teachers not so much. They are not as underpaid as people constantly promote, and they are heavily weighted in benefit toward retirement and later years of teaching.

 

[uscitizen]

Because that's what the market will bare. There are thousands and thousands of teachers in the U.S. while there 500 or so pro baseball players. Why do actors get millions of dollars? Why do writers get millions of dollars? If people didn't want to watch pro sports or the movies then the performers wouldn't make the money they do.

Absolutely correct cawacko. It is what the market will bear because of many / most parents place more value on their status related material posessions than they do on their childs education.
thanks for supporting my opinion.

 

[uscitizen]

who is blaming the government? that's a random answer.

people tend to blame the gummit for the poor education system when they have no involvement in their childs education other than to send the children to school. How many parents actually attend PTA or whatever they call it now a days ? How many attend school borad meetings, how many meet with the teacher to discuss their childs education, spend enough time with them working on their homework ? etc....
Taking them to soccer games does not cover it.

 

[uscitizen]

Supply and demand. Teachers, as a whole, make very good salaries. It was negotiated long ago that much of the weight of the benefits and pay of teachers be on the later years of their profession, by their own union. This makes it so they keep promoting a starting salary and pretend that the later salaries have no existence and people believe that they are underpaid.

I have an employee whose wife is a teacher that makes more than every person in my group to teach Middle School, there is a reason for that, she is paid a professional salary as she deserves for her level of education. And this is after much of her starting years were taken off as she moved from another state.

Now, to be frank, there are very few people that can play that sport at that level, and people pay to see such a feat. They are a product, a rarity, teachers not so much. They are not as underpaid as people constantly promote, and they are heavily weighted in benefit toward retirement and later years of teaching.

I guess Co pays teachers well, that is good. The pay is not so good here. I personally know 3 grade school and one high school teacher...
and KY ranks about 40 or so, figures....
Where does Co rank ?

My grandsons teacher lives about 1 mile down the road from me and I am good freinds with her and her family.

 

[DigitalDave]

Don't get all 'ethical' on us uscitizen, seriously. Teachers are paid ok, and I highly doubt that if you paid them any more that they would do any better in the role that they have. The athletes are paid based on performance. They make more the better they are, and people love to kick back on Sunday afternoon and watch a ballgame, or go to a baseball game after work. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

My best friend is a trig/engineering math teacher at Canton South, his wife is a physics teacher at North Canton, my cousin is a grade school teacher for Canton City Schools, they all make good pay with AWESOME benefits that would beat any corporate gig I've seen, yet there are always those that complain that it just ain't good enough.

 

[Damocles]

Don't get all 'ethical' on us uscitizen, seriously. Teachers are paid ok, and I highly doubt that if you paid them any more that they would do any better in the role that they have. The athletes are paid based on performance. They make more the better they are, and people love to kick back on Sunday afternoon and watch a ballgame, or go to a baseball game after work. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

My best friend is a trig/engineering math teacher at Canton South, his wife is a physics teacher at North Canton, my cousin is a grade school teacher for Canton City Schools, they all make good pay with AWESOME benefits that would beat any corporate gig I've seen, yet there are always those that complain that it just ain't good enough.

Exactly my point. And they use that perception of others to pretend to be victims. Everybody calls them 'heroes' for working for 'short-pay' in a 'thankless' job.

First, the job isn't thankless.

Second, they often are heroes, but self-promotion takes away from that.

Third, they just aren't as 'underpaid' as they seem to have convinced everybody that they are.

 

[uscitizen]

Don't get all 'ethical' on us uscitizen, seriously. Teachers are paid ok, and I highly doubt that if you paid them any more that they would do any better in the role that they have. The athletes are paid based on performance. They make more the better they are, and people love to kick back on Sunday afternoon and watch a ballgame, or go to a baseball game after work. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

My best friend is a trig/engineering math teacher at Canton South, his wife is a physics teacher at North Canton, my cousin is a grade school teacher for Canton City Schools, they all make good pay with AWESOME benefits that would beat any corporate gig I've seen, yet there are always those that complain that it just ain't good enough.

why not get all ethical ? I try to be as ethical and moral as I can. You should too.

Yes I agree the teachers benefits are good here as well, but the state is currently reducing those beneifts. And to be honest the benefits are the biggest advantage of being a teacher here. Several families who I know of have one spouse working a not so good paying job for the state just to provide insurance for their family. School bus drivers used to be that way, but the republicans contracted that out. and we have had a couple of druggie drivers since then....

 

[cawacko]

Absolutely correct cawacko. It is what the market will bear because of many / most parents place more value on their status related material posessions than they do on their childs education.
thanks for supporting my opinion.

playing sports is now a status? going to a movie is a status? I'm not following.

 

[doniston]

Supply and demand. Teachers, as a whole, make very good salaries. It was negotiated long ago that much of the weight of the benefits and pay of teachers be on the later years of their profession, by their own union. This makes it so they keep promoting a starting salary and pretend that the later salaries have no existence and people believe that they are underpaid.

I have an employee whose wife is a teacher that makes more than every person in my group to teach Middle School, there is a reason for that, she is paid a professional salary as she deserves for her level of education. And this is after much of her starting years were taken off as she moved from another state.

Now, to be frank, there are very few people that can play that sport at that level, and people pay to see such a feat. They are a product, a rarity, teachers not so much. They are not as underpaid as people constantly promote, and they are heavily weighted in benefit toward retirement and later years of teaching.

Of course everything you have said is true, but the underlying problem still persists. These sports figures (plus many CEOs, etc) do not deserve the humungus salaries they get. rarity or not.