You’re not angering me. I have realized over the past two weeks, that debates, even or especially, heated debates, between lefties, are really the only ones worth having or reading.
Got that right.
You’re not angering me. I have realized over the past two weeks, that debates, even or especially, heated debates, between lefties, are really the only ones worth having or reading.
This is an interesting thread. It’s a thread that is so interesting, it makes you want to know more about the movies in question and the subject. Liberals, or lefties or whatever you want to call us, have had some really great debates over the past couple of weeks. Now, I give you a “hot” thread in conservative land:
Cawacko: USC Rocks! You should see a dentist!
Superfreak: You Trojan loser!
Cawacko: I’m going to pound you!
Superfreak: I beat you to it and pounded myself, Duh!
Now, I ask you….
LOL. Oh yeah!
u2 iz sooo funny....
u2 iz sooo funny....
I change my mind.
wow.... a woman changing her mind within a minute... who could have ever predicted that happening?
come on... I owed you at least one... don't be grouchy
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You’re not angering me. I have realized over the past two weeks, that debates, even or especially, heated debates, between lefties, are really the only ones worth having or reading.
Now that's an article that can spark conversation. And probably deserves its own thread. Frankly I don't even know where to begin.
I'll start off with the movie in the original topic itself:
Before I start, now that I see how you tied to the Color Purple in to MB, don't think I didn't catch your game. We were talking about movies and you just wanted to get your diatribe out about Monsters Ball. Yes. Hollywood praises and perpetuates Black stereotypes and MB certainly had a lot of said stereotypes. Moving on to the Color Purple.
1) I can't speak for others but I didn't incest was something that was attributed to black stereotypes specifically. To be honest, I'd never considered what choices a Black woman or any woman at that time had in terms of refuse. There were no hotlines, rights groups, group homes or watch dog organization to help them. Most of them had to suffer in silence.
2) As for degragation, that was a part of life for all minorities back then. And certainly those who managed to survive through Jim Crowe laws and sexism deserve a voice.
3) I'm not denying that there were ignorant black men in that movie, but there were also good men and men who redeemed themselves i.e. Shug's husband, Lawrence Fishborne's character, etc.
4) Attacking Speilburg is weak, I'm calling Ad-hominem
I refused to see the Color Purple because I thought it was about hating black people. If I want to write a book that would get notice and acclaim, just write a book about self-hate. I might get a Nobel Prize.
Purple engendered a whole host of self-hate "I hate black men" books by people like Toni "Clinton is the first black president" Morrison and others .. and inspired "Brewster's Place" which came after.
Question: How did Halle Berry win an Oscar for "Monsters Ball" .. a self-hating piece of pornographic trash that no white actress would have won any award for?
"Yeah the movie was pretty hard on the men folk. "A women aint safe in a world full of men" is what the movie was all about. "
Desh, I think you hit it, that is a woman thing. Women do have this conversation. When I went to see Redacted with my girlfriends, and male Iraq vets, because it was an IVAW fundraiser…my friend sue and I came out of there knocked out. We were sobbing, I can’t even describe it. And the guys were all caught up in the PTSD of the “poor” guy who witnessed this act of mind-bending brutality in a gang-rape and murder...and did nothing to stop. Sue and I had to leave together. We don’t hate men. But we had to leave.
There were no pornographic scenes in "Monster" .. and it was not about a racist white man who participated in the killing of a black women's husband .. only to have that same woman engage in pornographis scences with the same man .. while her son suffered and ultimately died.
Question: does Angela Bassett hate women?
Black art ain't about politics or making people happy with the way things turned out.
I once read "Their Eyes Were Watching God". Supposed to be part of the great African-American canon.
And I was like... well, that was pretty average.