The Bible discusses rape and murder!

[Damocles]

Well in Kentucky, it's available as an elective in public schools:

Gov. Matt Bevin publicly signs bill allowing Kentucky's public schools to teach the Bible
https://www.wdrb.com/news/education...cle_17ffee84-1249-5190-9ec2-6d5f2ae678fe.html

As for mandatory, none yet, but the plan from Conservatives is to do just that:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1516539432240885765

There are no electives in first through third grades and the "Bible as literature" is not what you are talking about here. You are saying that the Bible is taught as an example of morality in these same grades or you are pretending to be stupid about what the law you are arguing against actually says in more ways than that.

The law does not permit teachers to use the bible to speak about sexuality any more than it allows them to use other imagery to teach kindergartners through third grade children about sexuality.

 

[LV426]

I don't remember reading the Song of Solomon or the verses about that guy and his daughter while in my public elementary school.

Well that's because religion was banned from public schools.

But it's not anymore.

Though you seem certain that I did

Oh really? Please point out where in the thread I said that at all, or are you just being a fucking liar and cheat again?

You gonna change the posts so that you don't have to eat shit? It's your style, after all. It's what we've come to expect from you now.

another thing my first grade teacher didn't talk about in school was their sexuality

Did they wear a wedding ring?

I never knew what religion my teachers followed either.

Well, perception isn't your strong suit. Laziness is, though.

 

[Stone]

The reason you don't want to teach history is because you don't want to have to explain to white kids what your grandma is doing in this picture:

Have you explained to any children that somewhere back in time black people in Africa brutally enslaved other black people in Africa and then sold them to Arabs and Europeans to continue in slavery. If not......SHUT THE FUCK UP. Im all for talking about history,....but tell the WHOLE STORY not just part of it.

 

[Damocles]

Well that's because religion was banned from public schools.

But it's not anymore.




Oh really? Please point out where in the thread I said that at all, or are you just being a fucking liar and cheat again?

You gonna change the posts so that you don't have to eat shit? It's your style, after all. It's what we've come to expect from you now.




Did they wear a wedding ring?




Well, perception isn't your strong suit. Laziness is, though.

You do know that folks can wear rings on that finger regardless of their sexuality, right? You now pretend that you were able to "perceive" the religion of your teacher in kindergarten, as well as their sexuality? Man. I knew there was a reason I didn't bother ever engaging in a conversation with you, but every once in a while there is something like this to remind me.

I tried...

But from now on my response will again be this one if you try to engage me: I will not engage in any conversation with you because I believe you are disingenuous and incapable of a conversation based on information when such is introduced to you. If I see you act differently in the future I may begin to engage with you again. But until then, this will be my only response to you.

I find it incomprehensible and a bit obscene to have some folks come to a site where opinions are argued and information is given, only to ignore information and the opinion of another solely to spout opinions that clearly indicate that they haven’t read, didn’t care, and will not absorb any information that might make them think. It’s just strange to me, and I refuse to engage with those folks. All are free to post here and if others want to believe that they are worthy of attention then they can certainly engage, but nobody is entitled to my engagement.

 

[LV426]

There are no electives in first through third grades

What does Grade 1-3 have to do with the Bible being taught in schools?

Why are you moving the goalposts?

So it's acceptable for 4th graders to read pornography but not 3rd graders? Why that distinction?

You are saying that the Bible is taught as an example of morality in these same grades or you are pretending to be stupid about what the law you are arguing against actually says in more ways than that.

I'm not saying that at all.

I've never said that.

So this is you trying to put words into my mouth because you're full of shit and a cheater.

What you stupidly and arrogantly said was that the Bible wasn't taught in schools, and then I gave you proof that it was.

Instead of accepting that proof and admitting you don't know much about this, you try to cheat and set new parameters in order to save face.

Pathetic.

 

[Damocles]

Well that's because religion was banned from public schools.

But it's not anymore.




Oh really? Please point out where in the thread I said that at all, or are you just being a fucking liar and cheat again?

You gonna change the posts so that you don't have to eat shit? It's your style, after all. It's what we've come to expect from you now.




Did they wear a wedding ring?




Well, perception isn't your strong suit. Laziness is, though.

You do know that folks can wear rings on that finger regardless of their sexuality, right? You now pretend that you were able to "perceive" the religion of your teacher in kindergarten, as well as their sexuality? Man. I knew there was a reason I didn't bother ever engaging in a conversation with you, but every once in a while there is something like this to remind me.

I tried...

But from now on my response will again be this one if you try to engage me: I will not engage in any conversation with you because I believe you are disingenuous and incapable of a conversation based on information when such is introduced to you. If I see you act differently in the future I may begin to engage with you again. But until then, this will be my only response to you.

I find it incomprehensible and a bit obscene to have some folks come to a site where opinions are argued and information is given, only to ignore information and the opinion of another solely to spout opinions that clearly indicate that they haven’t read, didn’t care, and will not absorb any information that might make them think. It’s just strange to me, and I refuse to engage with those folks. All are free to post here and if others want to believe that they are worthy of attention then they can certainly engage, but nobody is entitled to my engagement.

 

[MAGA MAN]

The reason you don't want to teach history is because you don't want to have to explain to white kids what your grandma is doing in this picture:

Two more false premises. Besides, my grandparents were Republicans, not he racist Democrats that you pictured.

 

[LV426]

You do know that folks can wear rings on that finger regardless of their sexuality, right?

Wedding rings? No, people only wear those when they're married. But what would you know about being married? About as much as you know about this subject.

ou now pretend that you were able to "perceive" the religion of your teacher in kindergarten, as well as their sexuality?

Of course I was because I wasn't raised by shitty parents like you were.

Man. I knew there was a reason I didn't bother ever engaging in a conversation with you, but every once in a while there is something like this to remind me.

You're just looking for an excuse to get out of this debate because you can't debate this. You don't even know the first thing about what we're debating.

But from now on my response will again be this one if you try to engage me:

You spend all this time declaring that I'm not worthy of you formulating a coherent response when you could have spent it making a solid argument for you case.

But again, my expectations of what you are capable of are dreadfully low.

And even then, you still manage to come in lower.

 

[Stone]

There were a 171 black slave holders in the old south before Slavery was finally abolished. Some owning over 70 slaves at a time. Slavery, racism, and barbarism are not white people problems,....they are Human being problems.

 

[LV426]

Two more false premises. Besides, my grandparents were Republicans, not he racist Democrats that you pictured.

Boy were you probably shocked by the Dodgers raising the pennant in Los Angeles in 2020 instead of in Brooklyn.

After all, the Dodgers used to be in Brooklyn, so should Brooklyn get to raise the 2020 pennant at Ebbets Field? Apparently you would think so.

 

[Damocles]

Wedding rings? No, people only wear those when they're married. But what would you know about being married? About as much as you know about this subject.




Of course I was because I wasn't raised by shitty parents like you were.




You're just looking for an excuse to get out of this debate because you can't debate this. You don't even know the first thing about what we're debating.




You spend all this time declaring that I'm not worthy of you formulating a coherent response when you could have spent it making a solid argument for you case.

But again, my expectations of what you are capable of are dreadfully low.

And even then, you still manage to come in lower.

I will not engage in any conversation with you because I believe you are disingenuous and incapable of a conversation based on information when such is introduced to you. If I see you act differently in the future I may begin to engage with you again. But until then, this will be my only response to you.

I find it incomprehensible and a bit obscene to have some folks come to a site where opinions are argued and information is given, only to ignore information and the opinion of another solely to spout opinions that clearly indicate that they haven’t read, didn’t care, and will not absorb any information that might make them think. It’s just strange to me, and I refuse to engage with those folks. All are free to post here and if others want to believe that they are worthy of attention then they can certainly engage, but nobody is entitled to my engagement.

 

[LV426]

I will not engage in any conversation with you because I believe you are disingenuous and incapable of a conversation based on information when such is introduced to you. If I see you act differently in the future I may begin to engage with you again. But until then, this will be my only response to you.

I find it incomprehensible and a bit obscene to have some folks come to a site where opinions are argued and information is given, only to ignore information and the opinion of another solely to spout opinions that clearly indicate that they haven’t read, didn’t care, and will not absorb any information that might make them think. It’s just strange to me, and I refuse to engage with those folks. All are free to post here and if others want to believe that they are worthy of attention then they can certainly engage, but nobody is entitled to my engagement.

Whatever dude, you retconned your board rules because I pointed out that you were in violation of them...and instead of holding yourself accountable you just changed the rule so you didn't have to.

Sackless move there.

And again, managing to come in far below my already low expectations.

 

[Damocles]

Whatever dude, you retconned your board rules because I pointed out that you were in violation of them...and instead of holding yourself accountable you just changed the rule so you didn't have to.

Pussy move there.

I will not engage in any conversation with you because I believe you are disingenuous and incapable of a conversation based on information when such is introduced to you. If I see you act differently in the future I may begin to engage with you again. But until then, this will be my only response to you.

I find it incomprehensible and a bit obscene to have some folks come to a site where opinions are argued and information is given, only to ignore information and the opinion of another solely to spout opinions that clearly indicate that they haven’t read, didn’t care, and will not absorb any information that might make them think. It’s just strange to me, and I refuse to engage with those folks. All are free to post here and if others want to believe that they are worthy of attention then they can certainly engage, but nobody is entitled to my engagement.

 

[LV426]

I will not engage in any conversation with you because I believe you are disingenuous and incapable of a conversation based on information when such is introduced to you. If I see you act differently in the future I may begin to engage with you again. But until then, this will be my only response to you.

I find it incomprehensible and a bit obscene to have some folks come to a site where opinions are argued and information is given, only to ignore information and the opinion of another solely to spout opinions that clearly indicate that they haven’t read, didn’t care, and will not absorb any information that might make them think. It’s just strange to me, and I refuse to engage with those folks. All are free to post here and if others want to believe that they are worthy of attention then they can certainly engage, but nobody is entitled to my engagement.

And now you're falling into the same trap Legion falls into...you dismiss people who make you feel inadequate and dumb.

It's a constant pattern with you.

And again, a pattern that consistently comes in below expectations.

I always think you'd be someone who could debate, but then I remember that you changed your own rules so that you didn't have to hold yourself to account for breaking them.

 

[Damocles]

And now you're falling into the same trap Legion falls into...you dismiss people who make you feel inadequate and dumb.

It's a constant pattern with you.

And again, a pattern that consistently comes in below expectations.

I always think you'd be someone who could debate, but then I remember that you changed your own rules so that you didn't have to hold yourself to account for breaking them.

*sigh* (I really did try).

I will not engage in any conversation with you because I believe you are disingenuous and incapable of a conversation based on information when such is introduced to you. If I see you act differently in the future I may begin to engage with you again. But until then, this will be my only response to you.

I find it incomprehensible and a bit obscene to have some folks come to a site where opinions are argued and information is given, only to ignore information and the opinion of another solely to spout opinions that clearly indicate that they haven’t read, didn’t care, and will not absorb any information that might make them think. It’s just strange to me, and I refuse to engage with those folks. All are free to post here and if others want to believe that they are worthy of attention then they can certainly engage, but nobody is entitled to my engagement.

 

[volsrock]

The Bible discusses Rape and Murder… Should our kids really have access to it at our schools and libraries?

I’m asking for the Republican cancel culture warriors who are so concerned about what kids are learning in school!

Bible cannot be used for devotional purposes in the classroom or presented by a representative of the school


Do u see anyone in a classroom doing this with a bible



Do they have Pastor Story time with 2nd graders in public school?

 

[Callinectes]

You do know that folks can wear rings on that finger regardless of their sexuality, right? You now pretend that you were able to "perceive" the religion of your teacher in kindergarten, as well as their sexuality? Man. I knew there was a reason I didn't bother ever engaging in a conversation with you, but every once in a while there is something like this to remind me.

I tried...

But from now on my response will again be this one if you try to engage me: I will not engage in any conversation with you because I believe you are disingenuous and incapable of a conversation based on information when such is introduced to you. If I see you act differently in the future I may begin to engage with you again. But until then, this will be my only response to you.

I find it incomprehensible and a bit obscene to have some folks come to a site where opinions are argued and information is given, only to ignore information and the opinion of another solely to spout opinions that clearly indicate that they haven’t read, didn’t care, and will not absorb any information that might make them think. It’s just strange to me, and I refuse to engage with those folks. All are free to post here and if others want to believe that they are worthy of attention then they can certainly engage, but nobody is entitled to my engagement.

You’re a better man than I am. I put him on ignore a long time ago.

 

[Sailor]

Untrue

Feel free to list the public schools that use bibles as part of the curriculum. I will wait.

 

[Code1211]

Probably because this forum is entirely composed of partisans.

Do you feel that one party is comprised of people who are superior to the people who comprise the other party?

 

[Code1211]

Because I see no examples of Democrats/liberals trying to ban books.

Your post here made me laugh. Laughter is good, so, thank you!

Conservatives have been noting that they have been gaining Twitter followers in droves since Musk bought Twitter.

Liberals have been frantic during the same period terrified that the "platform" will no longer impose censorship on those who wish to enter the marketplace of ideas.

Regarding the Book Bannings you have failed to notice, I was astonished to hear that Huckleberry Finn was banned from required reading lists by the woke morons imposing their stupidity on our educational system.

I recall very clearly my own expansion of understanding as Huck determined that he'd go to Hell if that was what having a friend like Jim meant. Powerful moment in a powerful book.

Twain's writing is as much a description of the American Society in his time as Dickens was of England in his time. Orwell's writing explains why Twain's writing needed to be expunged.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/27/conservatives-see-spike-in-followers-on-elon-musks-twitter/