The best justice MONEY CAN BUY!

:lolup:





There ya go...

Now...back to the question you've ducked TWO TIMES STRAIGHT:

FROM EARLIER...please relate to everyone in great detail all the hardships that poor hedge fund manager will have to endure if he isn't sent to prison for running down an innocent man.

I'm sure his life will become one episode after another of suffering the likes of which normal man has never seen, I simply await your enlightenment as to how exactly that will occur.

...ARE YOU GOING TO DUCK IT A SECOND TIME OR YOU CAN TRY AND ANSWER THIS TIME.

odd...you're the one ducking the question about the name i called you

you lied and when i called you on it and asked for the name you run like hell and get all angry and red faced :)

why do you lie so often?
 
You are a one-sided, one focused agenda guy that has been handled beautifully by everyone here that can see and recognize your ordinary, pedestrian, and tired partisan attacks on conservatives.

You bring nothing to the table but the same tripe we see here day in and day out. All conservatives are bad. Blah-blah-blah!

Only those on my friends list can pm me. I am sorry, but you told me in your neg rep you didn't like me, so there was no sense in friending you, eh? If you like I can make an exception so you can go to town, k? :rofl:

Interesting, I didn't reveal anything you said in your Private Message to me. I thought that was out of bounds. But I guess you have a different set of rules, and values.

You are more that welcome to defend conservatism, but I have yet to meet anyone that can do it without diminishing others or requiring some group of human beings to evaporate. It is a negative form of thought that is incompatible with a free and open society. It is anti-democratic in nature and builds nothing, it can only tear things down. The last 30 years are a shining example of conservatism.

Conservatism throughout human history has always created a aristocracy, plutocracy, or some form of oppressive society where there is a ruling class or hierarchy. Today's aristocrats and hierarchy are the CEO's, corporations, free marketeers, and the business elite. Conservatives will defend to the death McDonalds right to slowly poison our children, but they never defend our children's health and well being.

I've lived to see the total failure of two revolutions of extreme ideology. The Bolshevik revolution and the Reagan revolution. Unfettered communism and unfettered capitalism creates the same end...failure.

Conservatism has no investment in human capital. It believes everyone is basically evil, so it treats people accordingly and it always creates a fear of 'others', some group of people that must be excluded or ostracized. Liberalism is faith in human beings and a trust that the human spirit can solve all man-made problems. Liberalism is a belief that everyone has good inside them, all they need a fair opportunity to succeed.

So you are more than welcome to defend conservatism, but you don't get to decide the debate outcome.

Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.
William E. Gladstone
 
Interesting, I didn't reveal anything you said in your Private Message to me. I thought that was out of bounds. But I guess you have a different set of rules, and values.

You are more that welcome to defend conservatism, but I have yet to meet anyone that can do it without diminishing others or requiring some group of human beings to evaporate. It is a negative form of thought that is incompatible with a free and open society. It is anti-democratic in nature and builds nothing, it can only tear things down. The last 30 years are a shining example of conservatism.

Conservatism throughout human history has always created a aristocracy, plutocracy, or some form of oppressive society where there is a ruling class or hierarchy. Today's aristocrats and hierarchy are the CEO's, corporations, free marketeers, and the business elite. Conservatives will defend to the death McDonalds right to slowly poison our children, but they never defend our children's health and well being.

I've lived to see the total failure of two revolutions of extreme ideology. The Bolshevik revolution and the Reagan revolution. Unfettered communism and unfettered capitalism creates the same end...failure.

Conservatism has no investment in human capital. It believes everyone is basically evil, so it treats people accordingly and it always creates a fear of 'others', some group of people that must be excluded or ostracized. Liberalism is faith in human beings and a trust that the human spirit can solve all man-made problems. Liberalism is a belief that everyone has good inside them, all they need a fair opportunity to succeed.

So you are more than welcome to defend conservatism, but you don't get to decide the debate outcome.

Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.
William E. Gladstone

And Progressive Liberalism has only ever produced a socialized society of mediocrity, social decay and a separate elite class for the smarter of society who know what is best for the plebian’s. Capitalism is the only system, that with checks and balances, guarantees an opportunity for a person to rise above his economic station.
 
Your "agreement" is bogus; because you're not interested in saving McD's any money. You're just trying to find a way to pull and end run on your failed previous presentations.



Agreements don't have the need for disclaimers.

Dispute it all you want. The economic reality would benefit McDonald's bottom line. You stated:

Since you believe it's the toy, then take me up on my challange of a Kid's meal that includes a tofu burger, apple slices, soy milk, and a toy.
If you can sell as many as McD does, then you will have proven your argument; unless you truly know it's not the toy, but instead it's the fact that kids like hamburgers, fries, and coke!

So you say: it's not the toy, but instead it's the fact that kids like hamburgers, fries, and coke!

So WHY even bother putting a toy in the box? Why should the McDonalds corporation have an expenditure on toys when it's not the toy, but instead it's the fact that kids like hamburgers, fries, and coke! The shareholders could sue the corporation for wasted expenditures.

Econ 101 - lesson concluded
 
Dispute it all you want. The economic reality would benefit McDonald's bottom line. You stated:



So you say: it's not the toy, but instead it's the fact that kids like hamburgers, fries, and coke!

So WHY even bother putting a toy in the box? Why should the McDonalds corporation have an expenditure on toys when it's not the toy, but instead it's the fact that kids like hamburgers, fries, and coke! The shareholders could sue the corporation for wasted expenditures.

Econ 101 - lesson concluded

Your Econ 101 model would work well in the old Soviet Union but as has been discussed McDonald's does not have a monopoly on the fast food market. If it did then sure your econ model would work removing the cost of the toy. But in reality McDonald's has many competitiors in the fast food space Burger King, Jack in the Box, Carl's Jr. Wendy's just to name a few. McDonald's, like each of the other companies, is trying to differentiate itself from the competition. So the argument the government is somehow 'saving' McDonald's money with this ruling doesn't quite cut it.
 
Conservatism throughout human history has always created a aristocracy, plutocracy, or some form of oppressive society where there is a ruling class or hierarchy. Today's aristocrats and hierarchy are the CEO's, corporations, free marketeers, and the business elite. Conservatives will defend to the death McDonalds right to slowly poison our children, but they never defend our children's health and well being.
In perusing the thread, I almost got the impression you could be sane and civil and thoughful at times....and then you go and post something like the above.....
At first I thought you were arguing that Today's aristocrats and hierarchy were the lawyers like this boneheaded DA you're talking about, hes is the one making up his own rules and values rather than societys.......instead you think the beneficiary of the bonehead is the aristocrat because he is most likely rich......:palm:
and then the nonsense of McDonalds slowly poisoning our children?
Thats even to idiotic to respond to....

I guess my first impression of you was probably right.

 
Dispute it all you want. The economic reality would benefit McDonald's bottom line. You stated:



So you say: it's not the toy, but instead it's the fact that kids like hamburgers, fries, and coke!

So WHY even bother putting a toy in the box? Why should the McDonalds corporation have an expenditure on toys when it's not the toy, but instead it's the fact that kids like hamburgers, fries, and coke! The shareholders could sue the corporation for wasted expenditures.

Econ 101 - lesson concluded


You're entire new spin is total asiniity.
Now you want to promote this as the Banana Republic of San Francisco "saving" McD money.
If McD wants to save money, I bet they can decide what's best for them; but you are such in to nannyism, that you now have decided that once again Liberals know what's best for everyone else.

So when are you going to start selling your Tofu Kid's Meal??
 
If Dr Steven Milo, the victim, cannot get satisfaction in the criminal court, would it be to his advantgage to sue this ass in civil court as was done with OJ Simpson?
 
In perusing the thread, I almost got the impression you could be sane and civil and thoughful at times....and then you go and post something like the above.....
At first I thought you were arguing that Today's aristocrats and hierarchy were the lawyers like this boneheaded DA you're talking about, hes is the one making up his own rules and values rather than societys.......instead you think the beneficiary of the bonehead is the aristocrat because he is most likely rich......:palm:
and then the nonsense of McDonalds slowly poisoning our children?
Thats even to idiotic to respond to....

I guess my first impression of you was probably right.


How long did that take? :corn:

I restate: Conservatives will defend to the death McDonalds right to slowly poison our children, but they never defend our children's health and well being.


LITERALLY

supersizeme.jpeg


* Each day, 1 in 4 Americans visits a fast food restaurant

* In 1972, we spent 3 billion a year on fast food - today we spend more than $110 billion

* McDonald's feeds more than 46 million people a day - more than the entire population of Spain

* French fries are the most eaten vegetable in America

* You would have to walk for seven hours straight to burn off a Super Sized Coke, fry and Big Mac

* In the U.S., we eat more than 1,000,000 animals an hour

* 60 percent of all Americans are either overweight or obese

* One in every three children born in the year 2000 will develop diabetes in their lifetime

* Left unabated, obesity will surpass smoking as the leading cause of preventable death in America

* Obesity has been linked to: Hypertension, Coronary Heart Disease, Adult Onset Diabetes, Stroke, Gall Bladder Disease, Osteoarthritis, Sleep Apnea, Respiratory Problems, Endometrial, Breast, Prostate and Colon Cancers, Dyslipidemia, steatohepatitis, insulin resistance, breathlessness, Asthma, Hyperuricaemia, reproductive hormone abnormalities, polycystic ovarian syndrome, impaired fertility and lower back pain

* The average child sees 10,000 TV advertisements per year

* Only seven items on McDonald's entire menu contain no sugar

* Willard Scott was the first Ronald McDonald - he was fired for being too fat

* McDonald's distributes more toys per year than Toys-R-Us

* Diabetes will cut 17-27 years off your life

* McDonald's: "Any processing our foods undergo make them more dangerous than unprocessed foods"

* The World Health Organization has declared obesity a global epidemic

* Eating fast food may be dangerous to your health

* McDonald's calls people who eat a lot of their food "heavy users"

* McDonald's operates more than 30,000 restaurants in more then 100 countries on 6 continents

* Before most children can speak they can recognize McDonald's

* Surgeon General David Satcher: "Fast food is a major contributor to the obesity epidemic"

* Most nutritionists recommend not eating fast food more than once a month

* 40 percent of American meals are eaten outside the home

* McDonald's represents 43% of total U.S. fast food market

http://www.vivavegie.org/101book/text/nolink/social/supersizeme.htm
 
How long did that take? :corn:

I restate: Conservatives will defend to the death McDonalds right to slowly poison our children, but they never defend our children's health and well being.


LITERALLY

supersizeme.jpeg


* Each day, 1 in 4 Americans visits a fast food restaurant

* In 1972, we spent 3 billion a year on fast food - today we spend more than $110 billion

* McDonald's feeds more than 46 million people a day - more than the entire population of Spain

* French fries are the most eaten vegetable in America

* You would have to walk for seven hours straight to burn off a Super Sized Coke, fry and Big Mac

* In the U.S., we eat more than 1,000,000 animals an hour

* 60 percent of all Americans are either overweight or obese

* One in every three children born in the year 2000 will develop diabetes in their lifetime

* Left unabated, obesity will surpass smoking as the leading cause of preventable death in America

* Obesity has been linked to: Hypertension, Coronary Heart Disease, Adult Onset Diabetes, Stroke, Gall Bladder Disease, Osteoarthritis, Sleep Apnea, Respiratory Problems, Endometrial, Breast, Prostate and Colon Cancers, Dyslipidemia, steatohepatitis, insulin resistance, breathlessness, Asthma, Hyperuricaemia, reproductive hormone abnormalities, polycystic ovarian syndrome, impaired fertility and lower back pain

* The average child sees 10,000 TV advertisements per year

* Only seven items on McDonald's entire menu contain no sugar

* Willard Scott was the first Ronald McDonald - he was fired for being too fat

* McDonald's distributes more toys per year than Toys-R-Us

* Diabetes will cut 17-27 years off your life

* McDonald's: "Any processing our foods undergo make them more dangerous than unprocessed foods"

* The World Health Organization has declared obesity a global epidemic

* Eating fast food may be dangerous to your health

* McDonald's calls people who eat a lot of their food "heavy users"

* McDonald's operates more than 30,000 restaurants in more then 100 countries on 6 continents

* Before most children can speak they can recognize McDonald's

* Surgeon General David Satcher: "Fast food is a major contributor to the obesity epidemic"

* Most nutritionists recommend not eating fast food more than once a month

* 40 percent of American meals are eaten outside the home

* McDonald's represents 43% of total U.S. fast food market

http://www.vivavegie.org/101book/text/nolink/social/supersizeme.htm

Well it goes back to why don't we outright get rid of them or force them to change their entire menu? Taking a toy out of the happy meal isn't changing child obesity.
 
How long did that take? :corn:

I restate: Conservatives will defend to the death McDonalds right to slowly poison our children, but they never defend our children's health and well being.


LITERALLY

supersizeme.jpeg


* Each day, 1 in 4 Americans visits a fast food restaurant

* In 1972, we spent 3 billion a year on fast food - today we spend more than $110 billion

* McDonald's feeds more than 46 million people a day - more than the entire population of Spain

* French fries are the most eaten vegetable in America

* You would have to walk for seven hours straight to burn off a Super Sized Coke, fry and Big Mac

* In the U.S., we eat more than 1,000,000 animals an hour

* 60 percent of all Americans are either overweight or obese

* One in every three children born in the year 2000 will develop diabetes in their lifetime

* Left unabated, obesity will surpass smoking as the leading cause of preventable death in America

* Obesity has been linked to: Hypertension, Coronary Heart Disease, Adult Onset Diabetes, Stroke, Gall Bladder Disease, Osteoarthritis, Sleep Apnea, Respiratory Problems, Endometrial, Breast, Prostate and Colon Cancers, Dyslipidemia, steatohepatitis, insulin resistance, breathlessness, Asthma, Hyperuricaemia, reproductive hormone abnormalities, polycystic ovarian syndrome, impaired fertility and lower back pain

* The average child sees 10,000 TV advertisements per year

* Only seven items on McDonald's entire menu contain no sugar

* Willard Scott was the first Ronald McDonald - he was fired for being too fat

* McDonald's distributes more toys per year than Toys-R-Us

* Diabetes will cut 17-27 years off your life

* McDonald's: "Any processing our foods undergo make them more dangerous than unprocessed foods"

* The World Health Organization has declared obesity a global epidemic

* Eating fast food may be dangerous to your health

* McDonald's calls people who eat a lot of their food "heavy users"

* McDonald's operates more than 30,000 restaurants in more then 100 countries on 6 continents

* Before most children can speak they can recognize McDonald's

* Surgeon General David Satcher: "Fast food is a major contributor to the obesity epidemic"

* Most nutritionists recommend not eating fast food more than once a month

* 40 percent of American meals are eaten outside the home

* McDonald's represents 43% of total U.S. fast food market

http://www.vivavegie.org/101book/text/nolink/social/supersizeme.htm
In 3o years, your stupidity will be looked at and laughed at like the
Earth Day Predictions of April 22, 1970

"We have about five more years at the outside to do something."
-- Kenneth Watt, ecologist

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind."
-- George Wald, Harvard Biologist
"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years."
-- Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

"By...[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s."
-- Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation."
-- Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

Just imagine, you could go down in history like the fools before you....

:rofl:

There is no point ...you're dismissed
 
Well it goes back to why don't we outright get rid of them or force them to change their entire menu? Taking a toy out of the happy meal isn't changing child obesity.

No cawacko, one thing like removing a hook that entices our children to make poor food choices couldn't possibly end an epidemic. But, it is a positive step in the right direction. And it sure has a lot of people talking about our obesity crisis though doesn't it? Do you think there are some people who now know about the obesity epidemic that didn't know about it before?

I've learned some things I didn't know before, like: we now spend as much on health care every 10 days as we did in the entire year of 1950.


Medical care costs in the U.S. have not always been this excessive. This year, we will spend more than $2.5 trillion on medical care. But in 1950, five years before Ray Kroc opened the first franchised McDonald's restaurant, Americans only spent $8.4 billion ($70 billion in today's dollars). Even after adjusting for inflation, we now spend as much on health care every 10 days as we did in the entire year of 1950.

Has this enormous increase in spending made us healthier? Earlier this year, when the World Health Organization assessed the overall health outcomes of different nations, it placed 36 other nations ahead of the United States.

Today, we have an epidemic of largely preventable diseases. To these illnesses, Americans are losing not only their health but also their life savings. Meanwhile, the evidence keeps growing that the path to improved health lies in eating more vegetables, fruits, whole grains and legumes, and eating far less processed foods, sugars and animal products.

It's striking to me that in all the heated debates we have had about health care reform, one basic fact has rarely been discussed, and that is the one thing that could dramatically bring down the costs of health care while improving the health of our people. Studies have shown that 50 to 70 percent of the nation's health care costs are preventable, and the single most effective step most people can take to improve their health is to eat a healthier diet. If Americans were to stop overeating, to stop eating unhealthy foods and to instead eat more foods with higher nutrient densities and cancer protective properties, we could have a more affordable, sustainable and effective health care system.
 
How long did that take? :corn:

I restate: Conservatives will defend to the death McDonalds right to slowly poison our children, but they never defend our children's health and well being.


LITERALLY

supersizeme.jpeg


* Each day, 1 in 4 Americans visits a fast food restaurant

* In 1972, we spent 3 billion a year on fast food - today we spend more than $110 billion

* McDonald's feeds more than 46 million people a day - more than the entire population of Spain

* French fries are the most eaten vegetable in America

* You would have to walk for seven hours straight to burn off a Super Sized Coke, fry and Big Mac

* In the U.S., we eat more than 1,000,000 animals an hour

* 60 percent of all Americans are either overweight or obese

* One in every three children born in the year 2000 will develop diabetes in their lifetime

* Left unabated, obesity will surpass smoking as the leading cause of preventable death in America

* Obesity has been linked to: Hypertension, Coronary Heart Disease, Adult Onset Diabetes, Stroke, Gall Bladder Disease, Osteoarthritis, Sleep Apnea, Respiratory Problems, Endometrial, Breast, Prostate and Colon Cancers, Dyslipidemia, steatohepatitis, insulin resistance, breathlessness, Asthma, Hyperuricaemia, reproductive hormone abnormalities, polycystic ovarian syndrome, impaired fertility and lower back pain

* The average child sees 10,000 TV advertisements per year

* Only seven items on McDonald's entire menu contain no sugar

* Willard Scott was the first Ronald McDonald - he was fired for being too fat

* McDonald's distributes more toys per year than Toys-R-Us

* Diabetes will cut 17-27 years off your life

* McDonald's: "Any processing our foods undergo make them more dangerous than unprocessed foods"

* The World Health Organization has declared obesity a global epidemic

* Eating fast food may be dangerous to your health

* McDonald's calls people who eat a lot of their food "heavy users"

* McDonald's operates more than 30,000 restaurants in more then 100 countries on 6 continents

* Before most children can speak they can recognize McDonald's

* Surgeon General David Satcher: "Fast food is a major contributor to the obesity epidemic"

* Most nutritionists recommend not eating fast food more than once a month

* 40 percent of American meals are eaten outside the home

* McDonald's represents 43% of total U.S. fast food market

http://www.vivavegie.org/101book/text/nolink/social/supersizeme.htm

Do you want to bitch about the food, or about the toy?

Make up your 1 cell mind
 
No cawacko, one thing like removing a hook that entices our children to make poor food choices couldn't possibly end an epidemic. But, it is a positive step in the right direction. And it sure has a lot of people talking about our obesity crisis though doesn't it? Do you think there are some people who now know about the obesity epidemic that didn't know about it before?

I've learned some things I didn't know before, like: we now spend as much on health care every 10 days as we did in the entire year of 1950.


Medical care costs in the U.S. have not always been this excessive. This year, we will spend more than $2.5 trillion on medical care. But in 1950, five years before Ray Kroc opened the first franchised McDonald's restaurant, Americans only spent $8.4 billion ($70 billion in today's dollars). Even after adjusting for inflation, we now spend as much on health care every 10 days as we did in the entire year of 1950.

Has this enormous increase in spending made us healthier? Earlier this year, when the World Health Organization assessed the overall health outcomes of different nations, it placed 36 other nations ahead of the United States.

Today, we have an epidemic of largely preventable diseases. To these illnesses, Americans are losing not only their health but also their life savings. Meanwhile, the evidence keeps growing that the path to improved health lies in eating more vegetables, fruits, whole grains and legumes, and eating far less processed foods, sugars and animal products.

It's striking to me that in all the heated debates we have had about health care reform, one basic fact has rarely been discussed, and that is the one thing that could dramatically bring down the costs of health care while improving the health of our people. Studies have shown that 50 to 70 percent of the nation's health care costs are preventable, and the single most effective step most people can take to improve their health is to eat a healthier diet. If Americans were to stop overeating, to stop eating unhealthy foods and to instead eat more foods with higher nutrient densities and cancer protective properties, we could have a more affordable, sustainable and effective health care system.

At least where I live there has been lots of talk about child obesity. This ruling has done nothing to start a conversation about it. What it has done again is talk about the role of government in our lives.
 
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