The best justice MONEY CAN BUY!

your ignorance is truly amazing

again, the DA did not justify his actions, if he did, then he would not have pressed charges for if the actions were justifiable, he wouldn't be prosecuted

the DA does not establish precedence...your knowledge of how the DA's office works is appalling...

saying he will not suffer any hardship is stupid

And this is what I get for trying to speak to you with any civility.

No refutation...no evidence to back your claims.

You just call me names.

Again...the DA JUSTFIED his refusal to file FELONY charges based on his claim that the hit & run driver needs to be out of jail in order to pay restitution.

If the case goes to trial as is and a verdict is handed down then it does indeed set a precedent.

Now...please relate to everyone in great detail all the hardships that poor hedge fund manager will have to endure if he isn't sent to prison for running down an innocent man.

I'm sure his life will become one episode after another of suffering the likes of which normal man has never seen, I simply await your enlightenment as to how exactly that will occur.
 
i called you a name? now you're lying because you know you've been beaten

no evidence? for what? what part of my post do you need evidence for? the DA giving someone a deal sets ZERO precedence, even if it goes to trial....just think about the recent case of the bart cop...that sentence did not in any way set any precedent...sentences are individual and furthermore, there is no precedent at the superior court level

truly astonishing how ignorant you are...why don't you study up on this and then get back to me
 
i called you a name? now you're lying because you know you've been beaten

no evidence? for what? what part of my post do you need evidence for? the DA giving someone a deal sets ZERO precedence, even if it goes to trial....just think about the recent case of the bart cop...that sentence did not in any way set any precedent...sentences are individual and furthermore, there is no precedent at the superior court level

truly astonishing how ignorant you are...why don't you study up on this and then get back to me

Of course I knew you'd duck answering the very straightforward question I tossed out there. Answering them would force you to admit you are wrong.

FROM EARLIER...please relate to everyone in great detail all the hardships that poor hedge fund manager will have to endure if he isn't sent to prison for running down an innocent man.

I'm sure his life will become one episode after another of suffering the likes of which normal man has never seen, I simply await your enlightenment as to how exactly that will occur.

...YOU CAN DUCK IT AGAIN OR YOU CAN TRY AND ANSWER THIS TIME.

btw...OF COURSE the DA giving the driver a deal sets a precedent...IF the deal is accepted and the case dropped.

If a situation with similarities to this case ever occurs, then if whoever is charged is wealthy enough he can point to this case and ask for a similar deal...how is that too difficult for you to comprehend?
 
You've got to understand...disloyal is just too gutless to say what she's got to say out here where everyone can see...if she did that, then everyone would see her for the filth slinging harridan she truly is.

I have no problem with addressing you right out here before God and country you pathetic excuse for a man. You make the mistake every day of thinking that the majority of people here actually think you are useful, and what you are is a whining, overweight, pathetic, attention-seeking whore who hides his massive digusting body behind a mike or a computer screen.

Every post you drop your fat ass down on is you behaving like a fat girl trying to exact revenge on those meanies that always teased you your entire life. Every post you make is riddled with animus, ridicule and you pitching a hissy fit and EVERYONE sees it.

One look at you Zappa and the only thing one needs to say is: Sorry you look like a winded, mangy waterbuffalo, but you could do something about it that doesn't involve raising your hand to your fat mouth.

Is that filthy enough for you you joke of a man?
 
Of course I knew you'd duck answering the very straightforward question I tossed out there. Answering them would force you to admit you are wrong.

FROM EARLIER...please relate to everyone in great detail all the hardships that poor hedge fund manager will have to endure if he isn't sent to prison for running down an innocent man.

I'm sure his life will become one episode after another of suffering the likes of which normal man has never seen, I simply await your enlightenment as to how exactly that will occur.

...YOU CAN DUCK IT AGAIN OR YOU CAN TRY AND ANSWER THIS TIME.

btw...OF COURSE the DA giving the driver a deal sets a precedent...IF the deal is accepted and the case dropped.

If a situation with similarities to this case ever occurs, then if whoever is charged is wealthy enough he can point to this case and ask for a similar deal...how is that too difficult for you to comprehend?

LOL....when caught in a lie rant about something and get all red and angry

still can't find that name i called you huh....:)
 
people take convictions all the time that are below their actual crimes....sheesh zappa, you're just being plain dumb here....

the DA convicted him for a crime, the conviction was a lesser amount that was completely within the DA's discretion and within the law....you may not agree with his decision to have the guy get a lesser conviction, but he did not in any way shape or form justify the guys actions...he gave him the lesser charege because he believed it would result in a larger monetary punishment....too bad you don't like that justice, but in the end, the DA gave him what he thought was appropriate justice

Dear District Attorney Hulbert:

As a Republican precinct committeeperson and an avid cyclist who has spent
many days on the roads of Summit County, I can scarcely contain my outrage
at the travesty of justice reported in Saturday's Daily Mail:

Morgan Stanley financial adviser escapes felony charges for hit-and-run
'because it could jeopardise his job'

A financial manager for wealthy clients will not face charges for a
hit-and-run because it could jeopardise his job, it has been revealed.

Martin Joel Erzinger, 52, was set to face felony charges for running over a
doctor who he hit from behind in his 2010 Mercedes Benz, and then speeding
off.

But now he will simply face two misdemeanour traffic charges from the July 3
incident in Eagle, Colorado.

His victim, Dr Steven Milo, 34, is meanwhile facing 'a lifetime of pain'
from his injuries.

A more compelling case for felony prosecution for hit-and-run is scarcely
imaginable. A bicyclist is uniquely vulnerable in an accident like this,
and in many cases, his or her very life depends upon receiving prompt
medical treatment. Moreover, it appears on the face of it that Erzinger was
lying: no jury would ever believe that he didn't know that he hit a
bicyclist from behind. He fled from the scene, and that is a felony.

Even more outrageous is the rationale that YOU reportedly offered for
failing to prosecute Erzinger: because it could jeopardize his job.

Justice in this case includes restitution and the ability to pay it,' said
District Attorney Mark Hurlbert.

He said Erzinger, a private wealth manager who manages more than $1billion
in assets at Morgan Stanley Smith Barney in Denver, is willing to take
responsibility and pay restitution.

'Felony convictions have some pretty serious job implications for someone in
Mr. Erzinger's profession, and that entered into it,' he said.

A felony prosecution is going to jeopardize just about anyone's job, for
cry-iy! If Kobe Bryant had been prosecuted for rape, it would have hurt his
career. And what about the Aussie kid who threw a snowball at one of his
co-workers? -- forget that student visa.

Or the two women who cheated during the Leadville 100?
Felony criminal impersonation?!? Who did they hurt?
And then, there's the mystery as to how you avoided prosecution of the local
Republican version of Richie Rich, former state treasurer candidate Mohammed Ali Hasan.
You can't tell me that Erzinger couldn't have made the poor doctor whole from his assets alone.

I'm a Certified Public Accountant. Am I entitled to one free felony in
Summit County? Or is this just a benefit extended to banksters who have
powerful friends in the Denver Rustlers? Is this a courtesy you only extend
to Republican friends of Larry "Silverado" Mizel? Or did you simply take a
bribe?

Whatever happened, Sir, to equal justice under law? The notion that no man
is above the law, and none are beyond the reach of its protection? Even the
execrable Judge Nottingham got it:

This republic is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast. Not every one
of us agrees with every one of those laws. There are people who disagree
strongly, who think they can disobey the law whenever it suits their
purpose. There are people who disregard the laws. .

The law in a republic such as this is in danger and cannot stand if a large
portion or a significant portion of the citizens of that republic come to
believe that it is not evenly enforced. That is what is meant by equal
justice under the law. It is not that you get the same sentence as everyone
else, of course. It is that you are treated equally.

If it is perceived that there is one law for the rich and one law for
everybody else, the law will ultimately fall into disrespect.

Clearly, in Summit County, there is one set of laws for the rich and
powerful, and another for the rest of us. You are not morally fit to
discharge the grave duties you have been entrusted with. I implore you to
resign, and to never again disgrace a Republican ballot with your presence.
One Dan Maes was more than enough.

Sincerely, Ken Smith
cc: interested bloggers and news outlets;
bcc: various Republican officials

http://groups.google.com/group/lawmen/browse_thread/thread/3f6ba05ac7ee2a88/caf59dfea4a691a6?show_docid=caf59dfea4a691a6
 
I have no problem with addressing you right out here before God and country you pathetic excuse for a man. You make the mistake every day of thinking that the majority of people here actually think you are useful, and what you are is a whining, overweight, pathetic, attention-seeking whore who hides his massive digusting body behind a mike or a computer screen.

Every post you drop your fat ass down on is you behaving like a fat girl trying to exact revenge on those meanies that always teased you your entire life. Every post you make is riddled with animus, ridicule and you pitching a hissy fit and EVERYONE sees it.

One look at you Zappa and the only thing one needs to say is: Sorry you look like a winded, mangy waterbuffalo, but you could do something about it that doesn't involve raising your hand to your fat mouth.

Is that filthy enough for you you joke of a man?

WOW, Your post says nothing about Zappa, but it does speak volumes about YOU.
 
Because you won't accept PM's, here's my response to your PM to me.

Take me to task in public, I welcome it. Give me your best shot, and I will do the same. That is what the board is about, having the courage to stand up for what you believe, not throw stones from a hiding place. I consider your neg reps the act of a coward.

You are a one-sided, one focused agenda guy that has been handled beautifully by everyone here that can see and recognize your ordinary, pedestrian, and tired partisan attacks on conservatives.

You bring nothing to the table but the same tripe we see here day in and day out. All conservatives are bad. Blah-blah-blah!

Only those on my friends list can pm me. I am sorry, but you told me in your neg rep you didn't like me, so there was no sense in friending you, eh? If you like I can make an exception so you can go to town, k? :rofl:
 
your ignorance is truly amazing

:lolup:


LOL....when caught in a lie rant about something and get all red and angry

still can't find that name i called you huh....:)


There ya go...

Now...back to the question you've ducked TWO TIMES STRAIGHT:

FROM EARLIER...please relate to everyone in great detail all the hardships that poor hedge fund manager will have to endure if he isn't sent to prison for running down an innocent man.

I'm sure his life will become one episode after another of suffering the likes of which normal man has never seen, I simply await your enlightenment as to how exactly that will occur.

...ARE YOU GOING TO DUCK IT A SECOND TIME OR YOU CAN TRY AND ANSWER THIS TIME.
 
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So, the future is here and it includes a get out of jail free card if you are rich...

Martin Erzinger allegedly struck a cyclist with his vehicle. He will not face criminal charges due to the district attorney's concern for Erzinger's career.

A Morgan Stanley wealth manager will not face felony charges for a hit-and-run because Colorado prosecutors don't want him to lose his job.

Martin Joel Erzinger, who manages more than $1 billion in assets for Morgan Stanley in Denver, is being accused only of a misdemeanor for allegedly driving his Mercedes into a cyclist and then fleeing the scene, Colorado's Vail Daily reports. The victim, Dr. Steven Milo, whom Erzinger allegedly hit in July, suffered spinal cord injuries, bleeding from his brain and, according to his lawyer Harold Haddon, "lifetime pain."

But District Attorney Mark Hurlbert says it wouldn't be wise to prosecute Erzinger -- doing so might hurt his source of income. Here's Vail Daily:

"Felony convictions have some pretty serious job implications for someone in Mr. Erzinger's profession, and that entered into it," Hurlbert said. "When you're talking about restitution, you don't want to take away his ability to pay."

"We have talked with Mr. Haddon and we had their objections, but ultimately it's our call," Hurlbert said.

"Mr. Erzinger struck me, fled and left me for dead on the highway," Milo wrote. "Neither his financial prominence nor my financial situation should be factors in your prosecution of this case."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/08/martin-erzinger-morgan-stanley-hit-and-run-_n_780294.html

Well, you know the doc/victim was a liver transplant surgeon and that doesn't hold a candle to being a Smith Barney money manager. :mad:
 
Well, you know the doc/victim was a liver transplant surgeon and that doesn't hold a candle to being a Smith Barney money manager. :mad:


You got that right!

The poor man run over only SAVED PEOPLE'S LIVES.

The driver made LOTS OF MONEY!

Get yer priorities straight, girl!
 
Are you really THAT dense? The DA is JUSTIFYING a lesser charge that calls for a felony charge. The guy hit a cyclist, left the scene and didn't notify authorities. They call that HIT & RUN.

If ability to pay restitution were even a consideration, then NO ONE who is ordered to pay it would serve jail time.

WTF do you need to see what's going on here, someone to whack you in the forehead with a tack hammer?

I'm confused. Wouldn't Erzinger's insurance company pay any monies due because of this accident?

This misdemeanor charge stinks to high heaven.
 

Your "agreement" is bogus; because you're not interested in saving McD's any money. You're just trying to find a way to pull and end run on your failed previous presentations.

I'm no coward, I'm smart enough to take your word for it: "it's not the toy, but instead it's the fact that kids like hamburgers, fries, and coke!"

So IF...."it's not the toy, but instead it's the fact that kids like hamburgers, fries, and coke!"...then McDonalds should be flying their VP into the bay area to personally thank the SF City Council for saving McDonalds lots and lots of money in the future. They can remove the toy, and pocket the cost of the toy in added PROFIT! And who said liberals don't like corporations!

Agreements don't have the need for disclaimers.
 
Vail Valley District Attorney Mark Hurlbert plans to announce Thursday he is running for the Colorado State Senate seat currently held by Democrat Dan Gibbs, representing Clear Creek, Boulder, Gilpin, Grand, Jefferson and Summit counties.

Hurlbert, a Republican, currently is the chief prosecutor in the District Attorney's office in the Fifth Judicial District.
http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20100113/NEWS/100119822/1078&ParentProfile=1062

DA Mark Hurlbert Charges Two Top Women Mountain Bike Racers with Felony Criminal Impersonation for Using False Racer Number in Leadville Competition: Snowball DA Strikes Again – UPDATED
Posted on May 8, 2010 by Laura Victoria* 15 Comments

DA Mark Hurlbert filed felony criminal-impersonation charges against two veteran Vail, Colorado, mountain bike racers, Wendy Lyall and Katie Brazelton, after an injured Brazelton, 40, gave her registration materials and entry number to her friend, Lyall, 36, so she could race in the 2009 Leadville Mountain Trail 100 .

http://abusivediscretion.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/da-mark-hurlbert-charges-two-top-women-mountain-bike-racers-with-felony-criminal-impersonation-for-using-false-bib-number-in-leadville-trail-100-competition-snowball-prosecutor-strikes-again/

Anybody want to bet Hurlbert gets a sizable campaign contribution from Erzinger?
 
I've gotta put a tourniquet on this bleeding heart, already. :)

How DARE YOU put the well being of one human being ahead of the potential monetary influx that driver is capable of

I mean,...how DARE that victim's family demand justice?

How DARE they demand that banker's life be subjected to any turmoil?
 
Dear District Attorney Hulbert:

As a Republican precinct committeeperson and an avid cyclist who has spent
many days on the roads of Summit County, I can scarcely contain my outrage
at the travesty of justice reported in Saturday's Daily Mail:

Morgan Stanley financial adviser escapes felony charges for hit-and-run
'because it could jeopardise his job'

A financial manager for wealthy clients will not face charges for a
hit-and-run because it could jeopardise his job, it has been revealed.

Martin Joel Erzinger, 52, was set to face felony charges for running over a
doctor who he hit from behind in his 2010 Mercedes Benz, and then speeding
off.

But now he will simply face two misdemeanour traffic charges from the July 3
incident in Eagle, Colorado.

His victim, Dr Steven Milo, 34, is meanwhile facing 'a lifetime of pain'
from his injuries.

A more compelling case for felony prosecution for hit-and-run is scarcely
imaginable. A bicyclist is uniquely vulnerable in an accident like this,
and in many cases, his or her very life depends upon receiving prompt
medical treatment. Moreover, it appears on the face of it that Erzinger was
lying: no jury would ever believe that he didn't know that he hit a
bicyclist from behind. He fled from the scene, and that is a felony.

Even more outrageous is the rationale that YOU reportedly offered for
failing to prosecute Erzinger: because it could jeopardize his job.

Justice in this case includes restitution and the ability to pay it,' said
District Attorney Mark Hurlbert.

He said Erzinger, a private wealth manager who manages more than $1billion
in assets at Morgan Stanley Smith Barney in Denver, is willing to take
responsibility and pay restitution.

'Felony convictions have some pretty serious job implications for someone in
Mr. Erzinger's profession, and that entered into it,' he said.

A felony prosecution is going to jeopardize just about anyone's job, for
cry-iy! If Kobe Bryant had been prosecuted for rape, it would have hurt his
career. And what about the Aussie kid who threw a snowball at one of his
co-workers? -- forget that student visa.

Or the two women who cheated during the Leadville 100?
Felony criminal impersonation?!? Who did they hurt?
And then, there's the mystery as to how you avoided prosecution of the local
Republican version of Richie Rich, former state treasurer candidate Mohammed Ali Hasan.
You can't tell me that Erzinger couldn't have made the poor doctor whole from his assets alone.

I'm a Certified Public Accountant. Am I entitled to one free felony in
Summit County? Or is this just a benefit extended to banksters who have
powerful friends in the Denver Rustlers? Is this a courtesy you only extend
to Republican friends of Larry "Silverado" Mizel? Or did you simply take a
bribe?

Whatever happened, Sir, to equal justice under law? The notion that no man
is above the law, and none are beyond the reach of its protection? Even the
execrable Judge Nottingham got it:

This republic is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast. Not every one
of us agrees with every one of those laws. There are people who disagree
strongly, who think they can disobey the law whenever it suits their
purpose. There are people who disregard the laws. .

The law in a republic such as this is in danger and cannot stand if a large
portion or a significant portion of the citizens of that republic come to
believe that it is not evenly enforced. That is what is meant by equal
justice under the law. It is not that you get the same sentence as everyone
else, of course. It is that you are treated equally.

If it is perceived that there is one law for the rich and one law for
everybody else, the law will ultimately fall into disrespect.

Clearly, in Summit County, there is one set of laws for the rich and
powerful, and another for the rest of us. You are not morally fit to
discharge the grave duties you have been entrusted with. I implore you to
resign, and to never again disgrace a Republican ballot with your presence.
One Dan Maes was more than enough.

Sincerely, Ken Smith
cc: interested bloggers and news outlets;
bcc: various Republican officials

http://groups.google.com/group/lawmen/browse_thread/thread/3f6ba05ac7ee2a88/caf59dfea4a691a6?show_docid=caf59dfea4a691a6

Well, Ken; I don't think he's going to see it, on this site.
 
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