The Atlantic: The Corruption of the Republican Party

Except folks have used that meme well before Trump. What "man" is holding you down?

I managed to carve out a life for myself and didn't end up too shabby! We are all in charge of our destinies. For me, if I didn't feel I was being paid enough, I would fire my boss, and go hire me a new one somewhere else. It was a shame I had to do that so many times though. And let me just say that it was not often easy, as I faced several layoffs because of the IT career I happened to choose. Layoffs due to the offshoring of my job to foreign countries, or lay-offs due to being replaced by H1 Visa applicants. Or lay-offs due to the firm I worked for filing for bankruptcy etc.

But, I was lucky. In my days, I had good affordable healthcare and healthcare insurance for me and mine.

By the turn of the Century, that Insurance shit got up to where it was unaffordable and didn't pay shit for shit just when you needed it, and it just kept costing more and more every year! Basically the reasons for the ACA in the first place.

SO, A lot of things could have been much better for me, if the economies and job markets of the past would have been more stable.
 
I managed to carve out a life for myself and didn't end up too shabby! We are all in charge of our destinies. For me, if I didn't feel I was being paid enough, I would fire my boss, and go hire me a new one somewhere else. It was a shame I had to do that so many times though. And let me just say that it was not often easy, as I faced several layoffs because of the IT career I happened to choose. Layoffs due to the offshoring of my job to foreign countries, or lay-offs due to being replaced by H1 Visa applicants. Or lay-offs due to the firm I worked for filing for bankruptcy etc.

But, I was lucky. In my days, I had good affordable healthcare and healthcare insurance for me and mine.

By the turn of the Century, that Insurance shit got up to where it was unaffordable and didn't pay shit for shit just when you needed it, and it just kept costing more and more every year! Basically the reasons for the ACA in the first place.

SO, A lot of things could have been much better for me, if the economies and job markets of the past would have been more stable.

A credit to you then. There are obviously things that occur that are out of our control. And there are always exceptions but most of us have the opportunity to live the best life possible and that is ultimately incumbent upon ourselves to do so.
 
A credit to you then. There are obviously things that occur that are out of our control. And there are always exceptions but most of us have the opportunity to live the best life possible and that is ultimately incumbent upon ourselves to do so.

Thanks, but, there were a few holes, and Damn! I fell into every one of them! LOL!

But, hey, you have to take some blame for yourself! I am not always sure I handled adversity in the best way possible in retrospect!

The thing is, to keep bringing bacon to the table, sometimes you have to just do it, no matter what, no matter whether it turned out to be right or wrong!

Sometimes you can be damned if you do- and damned if you don't!

But, let me just get this out of the way- There were many times when I didn't feel that the Government was looking after the best interest of the working man!

And many of those times were under Republican led branches of government!
 
Follow the conversation Nomad. We were discussing the meme he posted.

There was no "meme" and your question about "What "man" is holding you down?" had nothing to do with anything A_T said in the post you responded to.

It was more relative to the OP, which would've fully and thoroughly answered your question, had you read it.

I highly recommend you read it. It is 100% accurate and true.
 
There was no "meme" and your question about "What "man" is holding you down?" had nothing to do with anything A_T said in the post you responded to.

It was more relative to the OP, which would've fully and thoroughly answered your question, had you read it.

I highly recommend you read it. It is 100% accurate and true.

Post #26 dude, not sure how you can miss it
 
Post #26 dude, not sure how you can miss it

OK I see it now, but in order to know that, one has to go two post/replies further back.

OTOH, the meme you referenced was related to points made in the OP. Therefore, the question you asked is still answered in the OP as I said.

So my point still stands.

Read the article quoted in the OP and you will find the answer to your question.
 
A credit to you then. There are obviously things that occur that are out of our control. And there are always exceptions but most of us have the opportunity to live the best life possible and that is ultimately incumbent upon ourselves to do so.

Unless your Black and walking down the street with a hoodie on.
 
Hello Nomad,

OK I see it now, but in order to know that, one has to go two post/replies further back.

OTOH, the meme you referenced was related to points made in the OP. Therefore, the question you asked is still answered in the OP as I said.

So my point still stands.

Read the article quoted in the OP and you will find the answer to your question.

The problem is the same as it always is when you try to get more than surface-deep.

The concept laid out by the OP article is extremely multi-faceted, can't be bomb-dropped like a sound byte. The only people who are going to read a long article like that are those with an interest. Few conservatives have enough dedication to impartiality to read something that long which basically suggests their philosophy is doomed.
 
Well fox legal expert Napolitano out and out told thee lemmings trump ordered and paid for a crime, and they don’t seem to get it. Creative
Medical intervention. We can get an fda waiver or something.
Gq magazine wrote a piece on it. I’m sure you have an issue next to your toilet.

What the fuck is Gq??
 
I admit it freely and make no apologies.

politics is war and zero sum

we will not compromise

we will destroy every overreaching bureaucratic mess of an institution that we can

liberals are enemies of america, you do not compromise with enemies.

the only thing I disagree with is "power for the sake of power" how is ideological purity power for the sake of power? That would be the liberal cause. they have no principles, no ideology, other than fracturing america, catering to special interests, making sure those on the dole get paid, and the deconstruction of american norms and identity as a divide and conquer strategy.
Thank you Mitch.
 
What the fuck is Gq??

roflmbo! :laugh:

It's a men's mag with hard-hitting pieces like:
"How to behave (and get invited) aboard the best superyacht party at the Monaco Grand Prix
Kim and Kanye couldn't get an invite, but maybe you can?"

Super yacht translation.........Marina Queens forever docked inside harbors that have never seen blue water...lots of pink and purple Azimuts and the like.

Yacht-GQ-10May17_istock_b.jpg
 
roflmbo! :laugh:

It's a men's mag with hard-hitting pieces like:
"How to behave (and get invited) aboard the best superyacht party at the Monaco Grand Prix
Kim and Kanye couldn't get an invite, but maybe you can?"

Super yacht translation.........Marina Queens forever docked inside harbors that have never seen blue water...lots of pink and purple Azimuts and the like.

Yacht-GQ-10May17_istock_b.jpg

Stretch, you are one of my favorite people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
What if we just cut to the chase. It's been made pretty clear that anyone who votes Republican is a racist. Democrats aren't racist so they wouldn't be accepting of former Republican votes. So should the millions who vote Republican just not vote? Or maybe all vote Libertarian? What would you like to see be done?
 
The fact that the HOW of it not only doesn't bother you in the least, but that you actually cheer it on, speaks volumes as to how brainwashed against the ideals America was founded upon you rotten r/w vermin are.

And why you can't be exterminated fast enough.

liberals don't support free speech and have tried to curb it a lot recently with censorship and safe spaces. you don't support the 2nd amendment. you let obama and the NSA spy on millions of americas violating the 4th and you didn't bat an eye. stop pretending you care about the constitution or our founding ideals, you don't.
 
What the fuck is Gq??

roflmbo! :laugh:

It's a men's mag with hard-hitting pieces like:
"How to behave (and get invited) aboard the best superyacht party at the Monaco Grand Prix
Kim and Kanye couldn't get an invite, but maybe you can?"

Super yacht translation.........Marina Queens forever docked inside harbors that have never seen blue water...lots of pink and purple Azimuts and the like.

GQ aka Gentleman's Quarterly, is a highly respected magazine with a long history of publishing articles, short stories and political analysis by the biggest names in the literary and political world.

Not surprising that a slob like Failor never heard of it and a rube like Stench doesn't grasp it's status.

Failor and Stench. Sounds like a buddy movie about two loser idiots.

failorstench.jpg


:lolup: :corn:
 
Fantastic article in The Atlantic.

Kinda long but well worth it.

Truly hits the nail on the head.

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The GOP is best understood as an insurgency that carried the seeds of its own corruption from the start.

George Packer

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/578095/

Why has the Republican Party become so thoroughly corrupt? The reason is historical—it goes back many decades—and, in a way, philosophical. The party is best understood as an insurgency that carried the seeds of its own corruption from the start.

I don’t mean the kind of corruption that regularly sends lowlifes like Rod Blagojevich, the Democratic former governor of Illinois, to prison. Those abuses are nonpartisan and always with us. So is vote theft of the kind we’ve just seen in North Carolina—after all, the alleged fraudster employed by the Republican candidate for Congress hired himself out to Democrats in 2010.

And I don’t just mean that the Republican Party is led by the boss of a kleptocratic family business who presides over a scandal-ridden administration, that many of his closest advisers are facing prison time, that Donald Trump himself might have to stay in office just to avoid prosecution, that he could be exposed by the special counsel and the incoming House majority as the most corrupt president in American history. Richard Nixon’s administration was also riddled with criminality—but in 1973, the Republican Party of Hugh Scott, the Senate minority leader, and John Rhodes, the House minority leader, was still a normal organization. It played by the rules.

The corruption I mean has less to do with individual perfidy than institutional depravity. It isn’t an occasional failure to uphold norms, but a consistent repudiation of them. It isn’t about dirty money so much as the pursuit and abuse of power—power as an end in itself, justifying almost any means. Political corruption usually trails financial scandals in its wake—the foam is scummy with self-dealing—but it’s far more dangerous than graft. There are legal remedies for Duncan Hunter, the representative from California, who will stand*trial next year for using campaign funds to pay for family luxuries. But there’s no obvious remedy for what the state legislatures of Wisconsin and Michigan, following the example of North Carolina in 2016, are now doing.

Republican majorities are rushing to pass laws that strip away the legitimate powers of newly elected Democratic governors while defeated or outgoing Republican incumbents are still around to sign the bills. Even if the courts overturn some of these power grabs, as they have in North Carolina, Republicans will remain securely entrenched in the legislative majority through their own hyper-gerrymandering—in Wisconsin last month, 54 percent of the total votes cast for major-party candidates gave Democrats just 36 of 99 assembly seats—so they will go on passing laws to thwart election results. Nothing can stop these abuses short of an electoral landslide. In Wisconsin, a purple state, that means close to 60 percent of the total vote.

The fact that no plausible election outcome can check the abuse of power is what makes political corruption so dangerous. It strikes at the heart of democracy. It destroys the compact between the people and the government. In rendering voters voiceless, it pushes everyone closer to the use of undemocratic means.

Today’s Republican Party has cornered itself with a base of ever older, whiter, more male, more rural, more conservative voters. Demography can take a long time to change—longer than in progressives’ dreams—but it isn’t on the Republicans’ side. They could have tried to expand; instead, they’ve hardened and walled themselves off. This is why, while voter fraud knows no party, only the Republican Party wildly overstates the risk so that it can pass laws (including right now in Wisconsin, with a bill that reduces early voting) to limit the franchise in ways that have a disparate partisan impact. This is why, when some Democrats in the New Jersey legislature proposed to enshrine gerrymandering in the state constitution, other Democrats, in New Jersey and around the country, objected.

Taking away democratic rights—extreme gerrymandering; blocking an elected president from nominating a Supreme Court justice; selectively paring voting rolls and polling places; creating spurious anti-fraud commissions; misusing the census to undercount the opposition; calling lame-duck legislative sessions to pass laws against the will of the voters—is the Republican Party’s main political strategy, and will be for years to come.

Republicans have chosen contraction and authoritarianism because, unlike the Democrats, their party isn’t a coalition of interests in search of a majority. Its character is ideological. The Republican Party we know is a product of the modern conservative movement, and that movement is a series of insurgencies against the established order. Several of its intellectual founders—Whittaker Chambers and James Burnham, among others—were shaped early on by Communist ideology and practice, and their Manichean thinking, their conviction that the salvation of Western civilization depended on the devoted work of a small group of illuminati, marked the movement at its birth.

The first insurgency was the nomination of Barry Goldwater for president in 1964. He campaigned as a rebel against the postwar American consensus and the soft middle of his own party’s leadership. Goldwater didn’t use the standard, reassuring lexicon of the big tent and the mainstream. At the San Francisco convention, he embraced extremism and denounced the Republican establishment, whose “moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” His campaign lit a fire of excitement that spread to millions of readers through the pages of two self-published prophesies of the apocalypse, Phyllis Schlafly’s*A Choice Not an Echo*and John A. Stormer’s*None Dare Call It Treason. According to these mega-sellers, the political opposition wasn’t just wrong—it was a sinister conspiracy with totalitarian goals.

William F. Buckley—the movement’s Max Eastman, its most brilliant pamphleteer—predicted Goldwater’s landslide defeat. His candidacy, like the revolution of 1905, had come too soon, but it foretold the victory to come. At a Young Americans for Freedom convention, Buckley exhorted an audience of true-believing cadres to think beyond November: “Presuppose that the fiery little body of dissenters, of which you are a shining meteor, suddenly spun off no less than a majority of all the American people, who suddenly overcome a generation’s entrenched lassitude, suddenly penetrated to the true meaning of freedom in society where the truth is occluded by the verbose mystification of thousands of scholars, tens of thousands of books, a million miles of newsprint.” Then Goldwater’s inevitable defeat would turn into “the well planted seeds of hope, which will flower on a great November day in the future, if there is a future.”

The insurgents were agents of history, and history was long. To avoid despair, they needed the clarity that only ideology (“the truth”) can give. The task in 1964 was to recruit and train conservative followers. Then established institutions that concealed the truth—schools, universities, newspapers, the Republican Party itself—would have to be swept away and replaced or entered and cleansed. Eventually Buckley imagined an electoral majority; but these were not the words and ideas of democratic politics, with its ungainly coalitions and unsatisfying compromises.

During this first insurgency, the abiding contours of the movement took shape. One feature—detailed in*Before the Storm, Rick Perlstein’s account of the origins of the New Right—was liberals’ inability to see, let alone take seriously enough to understand, what was happening around the country. For their part, conservatives nursed a victim’s sense of grievance—the system was stacked against them, cabals of the powerful were determined to lock them out—and they showed more energetic interest than their opponents in the means of gaining power: mass media, new techniques of organizing, rhetoric, ideas. Finally, the movement was founded in the politics of racism. Goldwater’s strongest support came from white southerners reacting against civil rights. Even Buckley once defended Jim Crow with the claim that black Americans were too “backward” for self-government. Eventually he changed his views, but modern conservatism would never stop flirting with hostility toward whole groups of Americans. And from the start this stance opened the movement to extreme, sometimes violent fellow travelers.

It took only 16 years, with the election of Ronald Reagan, for the movement and party to merge. During those years, conservatives hammered away at institutional structures, denouncing the established ones for their treacherous liberalism, and building alternatives, in the form of well-funded right-wing foundations, think tanks, business lobbies, legal groups, magazines, publishers, professorships. When Reagan won the presidency in 1980, the products of this “counter-establishment” (from the title of Sidney Blumenthal’s book on the subject) were ready to take power.

Reagan commanded a revolution, but he himself didn’t have a revolutionary character. He didn’t think the public needed to be indoctrinated and organized, only heard.

But conservatism remained an insurgent politics during the 1980s and ’90s, and the more power it amassed—in government, business, law, media—the more it set itself against the fragile web of established norms and delighted in breaking them. The second insurgency was led by Newt Gingrich, who had come to Congress two years before Reagan became president, with the avowed aim of overthrowing the established Republican leadership and shaping the minority party into a fighting force that could break Democratic rule by shattering what he called the “corrupt left-wing machine.” Gingrich liked to quote Mao’s definition of politics as “war without blood.” He made audiotapes that taught Republican candidates how to demonize the opposition with labels such as “disgrace,” “betray,” and *“traitors.” When he became speaker of the House, at the head of yet another revolution, Gingrich announced, “There will be no compromise.” How could there be, when he was leading a crusade to save American civilization from its liberal enemies?

Even after Gingrich was driven from power, the victim of his own guillotine, he regularly churned out books that warned of imminent doom—unless America turned to a leader like him (he once called himself “teacher of the rules of civilization,” among other exalted epithets). Unlike Goldwater and Reagan, Gingrich never had any deeply felt ideology. It was hard to say exactly what “American civilization” meant to him. What he wanted was power, and what he most obviously enjoyed was smashing things to pieces in its pursuit. His insurgency started the conservative movement on the path to nihilism.

The party purged itself of most remaining moderates, growing ever-more shallow as it grew ever-more conservative—from Goldwater (who, in 1996, joked that he had become a Republican liberal) to Ted Cruz, from Buckley to Dinesh D’Souza. Jeff Flake, the outgoing senator from Arizona (whose conservative views come with a democratic temperament),*describes*this deterioration as “a race to the bottom to see who can be meaner and madder and crazier. It is not enough to be conservative anymore. You have to be vicious.” The viciousness doesn’t necessarily reside in the individual souls of Republican leaders. It flows from the party’s politics, which seeks to delegitimize opponents and institutions, purify the ranks through purges and coups, and agitate followers with visions of apocalypse—all in the name of an ideological cause that every year loses integrity as it becomes indistinguishable from power itself.

The third insurgency came in reaction to the election of Barack Obama—it was the Tea Party. Eight years later, it culminated in Trump’s victory, an insurgency within the party itself—because revolutions tend to be self-devouring (“I’m not willing to preside over people who are cannibals,” Gingrich declared in 1998 when he quit the House). In the third insurgency, the features of the original movement surfaced again, more grotesque than ever: paranoia and conspiracy thinking; racism and other types of hostility toward entire groups; innuendos and incidents of violence. The new leader is like his authoritarian counterparts abroad: illiberal, demagogic, hostile to institutional checks, demanding and receiving complete acquiescence from the party, and enmeshed in the financial corruption that is integral to the political corruption of these regimes. Once again, liberals failed to see it coming and couldn’t grasp how it happened. Neither could some conservatives who still believed in democracy.

The corruption of the Republican Party in the Trump era seemed to set in with breathtaking speed. In fact, it took more than a half century to reach the point where faced with a choice between democracy and power, the party chose the latter. Its leaders don’t see a dilemma—democratic principles turn out to be disposable tools, sometimes useful, sometimes inconvenient. The higher cause is conservatism, but the highest is power. After Wisconsin Democrats swept statewide offices last month, Robin Vos, speaker of the assembly, explained why Republicans would have to get rid of the old rules: “We are going to have a very liberal governor who is going to enact policies that are in direct contrast to what many of us believe in.”

As Bertolt Brecht wrote of East Germany’s ruling party:

Would it not be easier

In that case for the government

To dissolve the people

And elect another?

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The sad thing is that no matter how clear we make it to them, conservatives just cannot seem to see themselves for what they are.

Or else they just will not admit it.

Yawn

Didn’t read it. Just more leftist tripe that isn’t worth the time or energy
 
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