The ATF has some 'splainin' to do

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Special Agent Mike Campbell said ATF agents raided PSS Range and Training in the 2200 block of Shenandoah Valley Avenue after "several months" of investigation.


Campbell said a search warrant was served and some items were taken but declined to say what those were.


Details of the search warrant were not available Tuesday.




"At this point, everything is still ongoing and no one has been charged yet," Campbell said.




A PSS employee confirmed Tuesday that the range remains open and operating.




Another man who identified himself as the manager of the range said he could not comment on the matter.




Campbell said it was unclear when further details of the investigation would be released.








http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/289874
 
I guess the Range wouldn't cooperate with the ATF in sending more firearms south of the border. I think the next goal of the ATF should be to smuggle large quantities of booze into AA meeting halls.
 
so in other words, the ATF lied to a judge, got a warrant for something, raided and robbed the place, threatened the range owner and manager with all kinds of legal crap if they opened their mouths, and now refuse to say anything about what they did or divulge the warrant.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
so in other words, the ATF lied to a judge, got a warrant for something, raided and robbed the place, threatened the range owner and manager with all kinds of legal crap if they opened their mouths, and now refuse to say anything about what they did or divulge the warrant.
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You read all that in the linked story? Awesome.
 
Threedee said:
I guess the Range wouldn't cooperate with the ATF in sending more firearms south of the border. I think the next goal of the ATF should be to smuggle large quantities of booze into AA meeting halls.
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You read all that in the linked story? Awesome.
 
\(\(\(\/)/)/)/ said:
You read all that in the linked story? Awesome.
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yes. most intelligent people would realize by now that with the ATF scandal being uncovered, that if the ATF actually had found anything to justify a raid like this, they'd be plastering bits and pieces of damning evidence all over the news media to justify their actions. Since they haven't divulged the warrant or said what they've confiscated and the manager is refusing to say anything, my guess is that this was a huge fishing expedition that went sour.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
yes. most intelligent people would realize by now that with the ATF scandal being uncovered, that if the ATF actually had found anything to justify a raid like this, they'd be plastering bits and pieces of damning evidence all over the news media to justify their actions. Since they haven't divulged the warrant or said what they've confiscated and the manager is refusing to say anything, my guess is that this was a huge fishing expedition that went sour.
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Awesome. You knew all that despite there being no mention of it in the story. You should team up with the Amazing Yurskin.




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SmarterThanYou said:
WTF are you talking about? That was the entire story. do you read what you post?
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WTF am I talking about?


Here's the linked story....all of it:




Federal agents raid Roanoke gun range








A northeast Roanoke shooting range was raided Friday morning by agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, according to an agency spokesman, but no arrests were made.


Special Agent Mike Campbell said ATF agents raided PSS Range and Training in the 2200 block of Shenandoah Valley Avenue after "several months" of investigation.


Campbell said a search warrant was served and some items were taken but declined to say what those were.


Details of the search warrant were not available Tuesday.


"At this point, everything is still ongoing and no one has been charged yet," Campbell said.


A PSS employee confirmed Tuesday that the range remains open and operating.


Another man who identified himself as the manager of the range said he could not comment on the matter.


Campbell said it was unclear when further details of the investigation would be released.




-- Neil Harvey




http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/289874




SmarterThanYou said:
so in other words, the ATF lied to a judge, got a warrant for something, raided and robbed the place, threatened the range owner and manager with all kinds of legal crap if they opened their mouths, and now refuse to say anything about what they did or divulge the warrant.
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I don't see "the ATF lied to a judge, got a warrant for something, raided and robbed the place, threatened the range owner and manager with all kinds of legal crap if they opened their mouths". Can you point it out?
 
Sterling Archer said:
Lulz at Legion not being creative enough to start his own successful thread, so he copies the exact title of a currently successful one.
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The town drunk's new avi character is definitely a gunlover....here he is in action:




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He seems to be an equal-opportunity type when it comes to naked guy stuffs in the locker room.​
 
A violent crime task force in Vermont is making inroads into firearms trafficking networks that link some of North America's biggest cities — and run through Vermont.




The eight-man unit, run by the Vermont office of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, includes lawmen from ATF, the Vermont State Police, the Addison County sheriff's department and the U.S. Border Patrol. Established four years ago, it added a Border Patrol representative in 2010.




On Oct. 1, a Rutland city police officer will join the group.




James Mostyn, resident agent in charge of ATF's Burlington office, says the task force has so far identified three U.S.-to-Canada drugs-for-firearms trafficking organizations and that the addition of the Border Patrol has made both agencies more informed about the flow of illegal drugs and firearms.




Vermont, which has few gun laws of its own, has evolved as a marketplace where guns are cheap and plentiful, making it attractive for traffickers in New York, Boston and points south as well as Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa and points north.




The corridor has three interstate highway ports of entry and miles of unguarded border.






http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/6e47969cd5b5463aa09e0be13a651869/VT--Gun-Crackdown/
 
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