The ascent of right wing populism

He didn't appear to be vacuous to me and I found his analysis to be cogent and quite accurate. That the rise of right wing populism is a sign of democracy in crises and that we do have a situation where large corporations are above the law and more powerful than national governments.

It's a questions I've asked quite a few anti-government conservatives. Why do you fear the power of government more than large corporation who, in fact, control our national government? I've never received a reasonable response to that question. The typical response has been some sort of ad hom attack.

I answered this question more than once. You have ignored it on multiple occasions.

But, here goes AGAIN

you just answered your own question when said that the corporations "control" the government. It will always be the nature of business to try to gain advantage it can. You seem to only want to blame the corporations and not the corrupt politicians who allow them to bend their will. As the saying goes it takes two to tango.

Additionally you ignore the fact that often times it isn't so much bribes businesses pay politicians as much as it is tribute. You know like the mob used to do "it sure would be a shame if some regulation shut down your business"

As to why I fear government over any business? Simple, sans a corrupt politician giving it assistance not one corporation can materially impact my life. Now read this sentence again and internalize it. Then read it again.

No corporation can force me to buy its goods. No business can raise my taxes. No business can confiscate my property. No business can imprison me.

All of these things can be done by government with very little recourse.

To the extent that corporations are "evil", they are at the sole discretion of corrupt politicians.

So now that I have answered maybe you can answer the opposite question. Given the things I have listed, why do you fear corporations more than government?

PS

there was zero snark or ad hom in this reply and it is the third time I have answered your question.
 
*3 minutes of my life (almost) that i'll never get back*....please,please provide your own ideas, or cliff notes.
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To the video. Both sanders and Trump speak to globalization. Trump speaks to illegal immigration-both crime and jobs.
sanders speaks to corporations..and trade agreements

But as stated corporations cannot outsource at extreme rates without creatures like TPP or NAFTA.
And they were creatures of both Democrat sand Republicans = corptocratic government..

Trump appeals further to illegal crime. Sanctuary cities and such that won't turn over known criminals to ICE..
It's unconscionable that people are deported and cross back into the USA and commit crimes..

That woman in SF who was shot on the pier comes to mind

Father of Woman Killed by Illegal Immigrant in San Francisco Shares Her Heartbreaking Last Words
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...rancisco-shares-her-heartbreaking-last-words/

Help me, dad.”

Those are the last words Jim Steinle said he heard from his daughter Kate before police say she was fatally shot by Francisco Lopez-Sanchez, an illegal immigrant who had already been deported several times.

“Suddenly, a shot rang out, Kate fell and looked up at me and said, ‘Help me, dad,’” Steinle said in an emotional testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee Tuesday. “Those were the last words I will ever hear from my daughter
 
I bet the fellow in you OP would have discussed Parento with me and agreed with all the Implications I tried to get you to discuss years ago.


do you even remember parento?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilfredo_Pareto


Vilfredo Federico Damaso Pareto (born Wilfried Fritz Pareto; Italian: [vilˈfreːdo paˈreːto]; 15 July 1848 – 19 August 1923) was an Italian engineer, sociologist, economist, political scientist, and philosopher. He made several important contributions to economics, particularly in the study of income distribution and in the analysis of individuals' choices. He was also responsible for popularising the use of the term "elite" in social analysis.

He introduced the concept of Pareto efficiency and helped develop the field of microeconomics. He was also the first to discover that income follows a Pareto distribution, which is a power law probability distribution. The Pareto principle was named after him and built on observations of his such as that 80% of the land in Italy was owned by 20% of the population. He also contributed to the fields of sociology and mathematics according to the mathematician Benoit Mandelbrot and Richard L. Hudson:
 
Fascism and power distribution[edit]

Benoît Mandelbrot writes:


One of Pareto's equations achieved special prominence, and controversy. He was fascinated by problems of power and wealth. How do people get it? How is it distributed around society? How do those who have it use it? The gulf between rich and poor has always been part of the human condition, but Pareto resolved to measure it. He gathered reams of data on wealth and income through different centuries, through different countries: the tax records of Basel, Switzerland, from 1454 and from Augsburg, Germany, in 1471, 1498 and 1512; contemporary rental income from Paris; personal income from Britain, Prussia, Saxony, Ireland, Italy, Peru. What he found – or thought he found – was striking. When he plotted the data on graph paper, with income on one axis, and number of people with that income on the other, he saw the same picture nearly everywhere in every era. Society was not a "social pyramid" with the proportion of rich to poor sloping gently from one class to the next. Instead it was more of a "social arrow" – very fat on the bottom where the mass of men live, and very thin at the top where sit the wealthy elite. Nor was this effect by chance; the data did not remotely fit a bell curve, as one would expect if wealth were distributed randomly. "It is a social law", he wrote: something "in the nature of man".

Pareto's discovery that power laws applied to income distribution embroiled him in political change and the nascent Fascist movement, whether he really sided with the Fascists or not. Fascists such as Mussolini found inspiration for their own economic ideas[citation needed] in his discoveries. He had discovered something that was harsh and Darwinian, in Pareto's view. And this fueled both the anger and the energy of the Fascist movement because it fueled their economic and social views. He wrote that, as Mandelbrot summarizes:


At the bottom of the Wealth curve, he wrote, Men and Women starve and children die young. In the broad middle of the curve all is turmoil and motion: people rising and falling, climbing by talent or luck and falling by alcoholism, tuberculosis and other kinds of unfitness. At the very top sit the elite of the elite, who control wealth and power for a time – until they are unseated through revolution or upheaval by a new aristocratic class. There is no progress in human history. Democracy is a fraud. Human nature is primitive, emotional, unyielding. The smarter, abler, stronger, and shrewder take the lion's share. The weak starve, lest society become degenerate: One can, Pareto wrote, 'compare the social body to the human body, which will promptly perish if prevented from eliminating toxins.' Inflammatory stuff – and it burned Pareto's reputation.

Pareto had argued that democracy was an illusion and that a ruling class always emerged and enriched itself. For him, the key question was how actively the rulers ruled. For this reason he called for a drastic reduction of the state and welcomed Benito Mussolini's rule as a transition to this minimal state so as to liberate the "pure" economic forces.[13]

To quote Pareto's biographer:


In the first years of his rule Mussolini literally executed the policy prescribed by Pareto, destroying political liberalism, but at the same time largely replacing state management of private enterprise, diminishing taxes on property, favoring industrial development, imposing a religious education in dogmas.[14]

Karl Popper dubbed him the "theoretician of totalitarianism",[15] but there is no evidence in Popper's published work that he read Pareto in any detail before repeating what was then a common but dubious judgment in anti-fascist circles.[16]

It is true that Pareto regarded Mussolini's triumph as a confirmation of certain of his ideas, largely because Mussolini demonstrated the importance of force and shared his contempt for bourgeois parliamentarism. He accepted a "royal" nomination to the Italian senate from Mussolini. But he died less than a year into the new regime's existence.

Some fascist writers were much enamored of Pareto, writing such paeans as:


Just as the weaknesses of the flesh delayed, but could not prevent, the triumph of Saint Augustine, so a rationalistic vocation retarded but did not impede the flowering of the mysticism of Pareto. For that reason, Fascism, having become victorious, extolled him in life, and glorifies his memory, like that of a confessor of its faith.[3]

But many modern historians reject the notion that Pareto's thought was essentially fascistic or that he is properly regarded as a supporter of fascism
 
*3 minutes of my life (almost) that i'll never get back*....please,please provide your own ideas, or cliff notes.
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To the video. Both sanders and Trump speak to globalization. Trump speaks to illegal immigration-both crime and jobs.
sanders speaks to corporations..and trade agreements

But as stated corporations cannot outsource at extreme rates without creatures like TPP or NAFTA.
And they were creatures of both Democrat sand Republicans = corptocratic government..

Trump appeals further to illegal crime. Sanctuary cities and such that won't turn over known criminals to ICE..
It's unconscionable that people are deported and cross back into the USA and commit crimes..

That woman in SF who was shot on the pier comes to mind

Father of Woman Killed by Illegal Immigrant in San Francisco Shares Her Heartbreaking Last Words
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...rancisco-shares-her-heartbreaking-last-words/

the blaze is the ramblings of a mad man
 
No, it was just amazing seeing history being made. It was also wonderful to see Prague before it became over run by Brits on stag weekends!!
Oh I bet it was. The best thing that was done in the Cold War was when Reagan began normalizing trade and the Soviets and Eastern Europeans block people began to obtain some prosperity but when they saw the level of prosperity that we in the west had, they wanted that too and that is what drove a stake through the heart of Communism.

That is essentially what we have finally started doing in Cuba and it's about damned time. As trade with the U.S. grows and with the death of the Embargo the death knell of communism in Cuba has also began.
 
Parento talked of this long ago


the 80 20 rule was discovered by him while examining the Italian social system


if you push the number further you get revolt

the wealthy are testing parentos theories
 
yet none of you here seemed very interested about it all those years I tried ton get you to discuss it


you just slink around and pretend I'm nuts

because your stupid as fuck
 
No, it was just amazing seeing history being made. It was also wonderful to see Prague before it became over run by Brits on stag weekends!!
Can't blame the Brits. The Czech's have a reputation over here for their beautiful women. If Czech women are anything like the Ukranian women I have met than that would be saying a lot.
 
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