The 16 Biggest Lies the U.S. Government Tells America About the Ukraine War

Minister of Truth said:
What's more manly than Scotch?
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Zima? :awesome:

Yeah, I can't mess with liquor much, cuz I like to be free, but I do appreciate the taste of a good whiskey.

The last I had was a single malt from a friend, but before that, it was 35 year old Cutty Sark from the archives. That was smooth stuff..

I gotta couple of boxes of whiskey around here. All of it well over 30 years old. As for the quality? That depends on the donator.

I know Johnny Walker is in there.
 
Minister of Truth said:
Islay Scotch is the best of them all.
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:dunno: I'll keep an eye out if I see any of that.

If it was made before 30 years ago, that ain't what I got.

I had a relative that was a contractor, and around Christmas clients would send them whiskey as a bonus. That relative did not drink and packed the whiskey into boxes.

The Cutty Sark was just 1 bottle, there's more around here.
 
Matt Dillon said:
If between your fingers and toes all you can count to is 16, you got problems.

Like parents that didn't stop you from doing stupid things problems.

What's up with Mariupol, brah? :dunno:
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The alternative-to-American-news states that the Russians shelled the city into submission, many refugees going to Russia and elsewhere, and the surviving members of the Nazi Azov military took shelter in the giant steelworks along with many civilians. It's claimed that these became human shields. After a protracted siege the civilians left and the surviving Nazis capitulated. They are now in internment camps awaiting war crimes trials.
Having consolidated their capture of Mariupol the Russians have continued to advance into more Donbas territory and towards Odesa, the last remaining Black Sea port that they do not control.
OK ?
Feel free to print alternative reports.
 
Walt said:
The first step would be for the country in question to invoke Article 5. That has happened only once, by the USA after 9/11.
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It's common knowledge that the US attacked several Middle Eastern countries and that the perpetrators of 9/11 claimed that their attack was a retaliation.
As I said, when does a retaliation against an aggressive NATO state become an attack on an aggressive NATO state warranting Article 5 ?
When NATO says so, that's when.
NATO is a self-fulfilling prophesy.
 
moon said:
The alternative-to-American-news states that the Russians shelled the city into submission, many refugees going to Russia and elsewhere, and the surviving members of the Nazi Azov military took shelter in the giant steelworks along with many civilians. It's claimed that these became human shields. After a protracted siege the civilians left and the surviving Nazis capitulated. They are now in internment camps awaiting war crimes trials.
Having consolidated their capture of Mariupol the Russians have continued to advance into more Donbas territory and towards Odesa, the last remaining Black Sea port that they do not control.
OK ?
Feel free to print alternative reports.
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A) What right does Russia have to Odessa?

B) What is left of Mariupol?
 
Matt Dillon said:
A) What right does Russia have to Odessa?

B) What is left of Mariupol?
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What right do fascist Jews have to Palestine ?
What right does the US have to Guantanamo Bay ?
What right do the English have to the Chagos Islands ?
Etc., etc.

Bigger guns, that's what.

Mariupol is severely damaged. I hope that the Russians consult with environmental experts before considering rebuilding it- because it looks like it's theirs for keeps.
 
moon said:
It's common knowledge that the US attacked several Middle Eastern countries and that the perpetrators of 9/11 claimed that their attack was a retaliation.
As I said, when does a retaliation against an aggressive NATO state become an attack on an aggressive NATO state warranting Article 5 ?
When NATO says so, that's when.
NATO is a self-fulfilling prophesy.
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Technically speaking, Al Qaeda claimed it was retaliation for stationing troops in Saudi Arabia, not in an attack on Middle Eastern countries. Saudi Arabia was attacked, by Iraq, but not by America.

The NATO treaty does not specify what would have to lead up to the attack, just an attack on one is an attack on all. For instance, often an attacker will use a false flag excuse to invade, which might make a weaker statement questionable. Instead, the NATO treaty makes an absolute statement, that cannot be gotten around.
 
moon said:
What right do fascist Jews have to Palestine ?
What right does the US have to Guantanamo Bay ?
What right do the English have to the Chagos Islands ?
Etc., etc.

Bigger guns, that's what.

Mariupol is severely damaged. I hope that the Russians consult with environmental experts before considering rebuilding it- because it looks like it's theirs for keeps.
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I asked specific questions, not for strawman arguments.
 
Walt said:
Technically speaking, Al Qaeda claimed it was retaliation for stationing troops in Saudi Arabia, not in an attack on Middle Eastern countries. Saudi Arabia was attacked, by Iraq, but not by America.
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That's only part of it.

The NATO treaty does not specify what would have to lead up to the attack, just an attack on one is an attack on all. For instance, often an attacker will use a false flag excuse to invade, which might make a weaker statement questionable. Instead, the NATO treaty makes an absolute statement, that cannot be gotten around.
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All the cards in NATO's deck are NATO's. It's clearly an organization for aggression .
 
Matt Dillon said:
I asked specific questions, not for strawman arguments.
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Parallels are not ' strawman ' arguments.
Invasion is illegal- Israeli, American, English, Russian, whoever- but when the judges don't give a hoot about the law then there isn't any law. As a ' world policeman ' the US got bribed by Israel.
The Russians got pissed off with NATO's invasions by stealth. Still- they haven't taken Odesa yet. That, I believe, is when the fat lady sings.
 
moon said:
The alternative-to-American-news states that the Russians shelled the city into submission, many refugees going to Russia and elsewhere, and the surviving members of the Nazi Azov military took shelter in the giant steelworks along with many civilians. It's claimed that these became human shields. After a protracted siege the civilians left and the surviving Nazis capitulated. They are now in internment camps awaiting war crimes trials.
Having consolidated their capture of Mariupol the Russians have continued to advance into more Donbas territory and towards Odesa, the last remaining Black Sea port that they do not control.
OK ?
Feel free to print alternative reports.
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Russians reduced the city to rubble and it's useless now when it once was a thriving community. Change my mind.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Russians reduced the city to rubble and it's useless now when it once was a thriving community. Change my mind.
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Mariupol ? Uk forces embed in civilian areas.
Since Russia cant control the air they use Grad, Uragan and Smerch - or artillery.
The mayor wouldn't surrender and the Azovstal steel plant were full of forces (tunnels)
 
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