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and I can't stands no more....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy

This has gone on far too long. How inept is the international community that we can't protect shipping from these assholes?

No more capturing them. blow them the hell out of the water. Use drones. Use satellites. Use destroyers. Use subs. Whatever it takes.

To the asshole pirate in the link above who wants us to release his fellow pirates.... send a message... let those captured walk to the end of a short plank and have a nice young officer put a double tap in the back of their skull. Let the bodies drop into the water.... the sharks gotta eat too.

Side note: to the morons who continue sailing their yachts through these waters.... Darwin is coming for you.
 
It's incredibly difficult to fight piracy, especially from a government perspective. I've more than once propositioned the idea of using private contractors to do the job. Being specialized in nature, and also dedicated to that particular role, they will be better able to combat piracy and keep shipping lanes free, while keeping national navies out of play. No risk of government assets.
 
Jefferson fought it by being unapologetically more powerful than they were. Every president since who has taken this attitude has had success at controlling them. Our current president has apologized for the US being powerful, so as expected, we get this shit.
 
It's incredibly difficult to fight piracy, especially from a government perspective. I've more than once propositioned the idea of using private contractors to do the job. Being specialized in nature, and also dedicated to that particular role, they will be better able to combat piracy and keep shipping lanes free, while keeping national navies out of play. No risk of government assets.

My guess is... you use the drones, satellites and subs that I mentioned and the poor pirates will be toast without putting our men and women in harms way. The technological advantage is overwhelmingly in our favor. Our problem is restraint. Time to take the gloves off.
 
We had an Auditor Killed in Kazakstan a couple years back.
I'm not interested in ANY foreign assignments.
 
My guess is... you use the drones, satellites and subs that I mentioned and the poor pirates will be toast without putting our men and women in harms way. The technological advantage is overwhelmingly in our favor. Our problem is restraint. Time to take the gloves off.
Contractors could do it cheaper, and without diverting military assets.
 
Contractors could do it cheaper, and without diverting military assets.
We know where they operate, we know how they operate. Not sure - do we know, specifically, where they operate out of?

We have the naval assets to easily cover the area. It's not like the Navy is too busy in Afghanistan to assign a couple DDs and a few PGs to the regions of interest. Protecting our interests in international shipping is a legitimate role for our military, not for some outfit of mercenaries.

Maybe its time to reinvent the Q-ship.....
 
We know where they operate, we know how they operate. Not sure - do we know, specifically, where they operate out of?

We have the naval assets to easily cover the area. It's not like the Navy is too busy in Afghanistan to assign a couple DDs and a few PGs to the regions of interest. Protecting our interests in international shipping is a legitimate role for our military, not for some outfit of mercenaries.

Maybe its time to reinvent the Q-ship.....

I would agree with the above and add that private contractors are not likely to possess the drones and satellites the military could put forth.
 
We need to put out info that we will no longer negotiate or tolerate piracy, then let our navy blast any craft approaching other vessels in shipping lanes.

I agree, this should not be tolerated any longer.
 
We need to put out info that we will no longer negotiate or tolerate piracy, then let our navy blast any craft approaching other vessels in shipping lanes.

I agree, this should not be tolerated any longer.

exactly.

I find it very hard to believe that with the tech available to us that we don't know where these bastards are coming from.
 
exactly.

I find it very hard to believe that with the tech available to us that we don't know where these bastards are coming from.

Many of the cruise ships are now armed with sonic weapons that are supposedly very effective.

Mass produce them.
 
exactly.

I find it very hard to believe that with the tech available to us that we don't know where these bastards are coming from.
Tech doesn't solve everything. You need actual, reliable, HUMAN intelligence. I mean look at our conflicts in the ME. Even with all our tech we still have trouble finding insurgents. Over 75% of the ones we DO find are because of reliable human sources, not electronic ones.
 
Tech doesn't solve everything. You need actual, reliable, HUMAN intelligence. I mean look at our conflicts in the ME. Even with all our tech we still have trouble finding insurgents. Over 75% of the ones we DO find are because of reliable human sources, not electronic ones.

true, HUMINT is just as important in Afghanistan etc... but when you are talking about on the ocean, unless you have informants actually ON the pirate ships, then you are going to rely more on the tech. Unless I am missing something.
 
true, HUMINT is just as important in Afghanistan etc... but when you are talking about on the ocean, unless you have informants actually ON the pirate ships, then you are going to rely more on the tech. Unless I am missing something.
You are, namely where the ships make berth. We know that vessels of the size used by pirate can only operate so far from shore, so naturally it'd be a good idea to try and increase HUMINT activities in those areas. This is another advantage for contractors, in addition to cost.

To deploy US naval assets requires a fuckton of money, and it employs people who, while excellent at their various functions in a military unit, are not trained to deal with pirates. They're trained to deal with national naval threats. Private contractors are more flexible in certain methods (not to say that they would be held to a lower ethical standard by any means), and because they are specialized they are better trained to deal with such threats. Being better trained typically means they can resolve a situation faster, which means they can then go and resolve another situation. And because it does not require the use of our own military assets, they (the navy) are free to pursue other avenues of piracy protection, or whatever other naval policy that may need their attention.
 
and I can't stands no more....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy

This has gone on far too long. How inept is the international community that we can't protect shipping from these assholes?

No more capturing them. blow them the hell out of the water. Use drones. Use satellites. Use destroyers. Use subs. Whatever it takes.

To the asshole pirate in the link above who wants us to release his fellow pirates.... send a message... let those captured walk to the end of a short plank and have a nice young officer put a double tap in the back of their skull. Let the bodies drop into the water.... the sharks gotta eat too.

Side note: to the morons who continue sailing their yachts through these waters.... Darwin is coming for you.
Man, do I ever agree with this...
WTF are we thinking letting these stoneage assholes terrorize the people for all these years....this time they captured 19 pirates?
They shouldn't have captured any, they should have recovered 19 bodies of dead pirates....
5 thugs from Chicago could do the job in 6 months....
 
Apparently I'm not the only person who agrees with my idea.

http://www.examiner.com/foreign-pol...reprisal-been-preferred-to-war-and-occupation

With the war in Afghanistan hitting its 10 year anniversary this fall and the Obama administration now talking about a pullout in 2014, was there a better option than attacking a third world country with advanced weaponry, hundreds of billions of dollars spent and untold thousands of civilians and military killed.
And now 10 years later with really no end in sight, polls are showing the American people growing weary with the war. In addition, basic economics just won’t allow us to continue our very expensive and dangerous occupation in Afghanistan. Will we be the next great power to lay rest in the "Graveyard of Empires"?
The Central Intelligence Agency states that the numbers of Al Qaeda left in Afghanistan is down to around 100 or less. But we have grown our presence in the country in a huge way since Barack Obama came into office.
Budget amendment to defund Afghanistan war gets no votes from Tea Party freshmen
After the tragedy on 9/11, and the enemy was determined to be a group of terrorists and not an actual nation-state, was there a better option to take out those responsible for the attacks on the United States than sending 100,000 troops?
Some spoke of and currently speak of the warrants known as letters of marque and reprisal.
Article I, Section 8, clause 11 of the US Constitution states: The Congress shall have Power ... To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
In a nutshell, according to constitution.org, a letter of marque and reprisal are commissions or warrants issued to someone to commit what would otherwise be acts of piracy. This is in contrast to unlicensed piracy.They normally include:

  1. Names person, authorizes him to pass beyond borders with forces under his command.
  2. Specifies nationality of targets for action.
  3. Authorizes seizure or destruction of assets or personnel of target nationality.
  4. Describes offense for which commission is issued as reprisal.
  5. Restriction on time, manner, place, or amount of reprisal.
During an interview on CNN’s Lou Dobbs Tonight, Western Connecticut State University History professor and Constitutional scholar Dr. Kevin Gutzman describes the use of letters of marque in dealing with the Somoli pirates in response to CNN’s Kitty Pilgrim’s question:
PILGRIM: You know, I would like to actually -- since you brought it up, I would like to bring up the issue of the pirates. And it's really such a mesmerizing problem, actually. It's been debated at every kitchen table in the country this week. Professor Gutzman, I understand you have an opinion about how this actually works with the Constitution. Tell me what you think?
GUTZMAN: Well, there certainly is an age-old provision in the Constitution that in case of activity like this, the Congress can issue what are called letters of marque. That is, they can empower private individuals to take action against pirates. And so there's been some discussion in Congress, I know of doing this. And I think that's one solution to the problem we have now.
It seems that these ships are mainly unarmed because of concerns about insurance. And granting the captain's letters of marque would enable them to take defensive measures without having to call down the wrath of the U.S. Navy or certainly to await the U.S Navy's intervention once the captain has been seized.
Rumsfeld decided to go after Saddam hours after 9/11
Even after the 9/11 attacks, Congressman Ron Paul introduced the Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 which defined the attacks that day as acts of air piracy. The act would have granted the authority to use letters of marquee and reprisal against the specific terrorists, instead of attacking and subsequently occupying a sovereign nation.
See Congressman Paul discuss this further in the video to the left.
Would a letter of marque and reprisal been preferred to war and occupation?
Judge for yourself.






 
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