Texas gov. shoots, kills 'wily' coyote during jog

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leaningright said:
I go everywhere with a handgun. And yes, my dogs, from puppy-hood to adult, are in the proximity of coyotes all the time. I've only lost two dogs to coyotes in 43 years. I've lost 3 to snakes.
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DO you really have a handgun on you at all time, though? Like, say you were to go for a jog or go to the gym or something, would you really have your handgun on you at all times?

If so, I find that fascinating. And I'm not being critical. It's just that the concept is so foreign to me that I can't really fathom it.
 
NigelTufnel said:
If you live in a rural area where your dog might get attacked by a coyote . . . don't bring your dog along for your jog. An adult human going for a jog is under no possibility of attack by a fucking coyote.
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Don't bring the dog on a jog because it might get attacked by a coyote? WTF? Should we keep our dogs locked up so they are safe from a predator? Coyotes are not rare or endangered. In fact, they are overpopulating and becoming both a menace and an ecological problem.

If I am out with my dog, and a coyote menaces him, I am going to shoot the coyote.


Also, any wild animal that is not afraid of humans is likely sick or more dangerous.

The man was perfectly right to have plugged the coyote. In fact, I would be happy to teach the Gov. a few tricks for coyote hunting.
 
NigelTufnel said:
DO you really have a handgun on you at all time, though? Like, say you were to go for a jog or go to the gym or something, would you really have your handgun on you at all times?

If so, I find that fascinating. And I'm not being critical. It's just that the concept is so foreign to me that I can't really fathom it.
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I don't jog, but I do hike a good bit. I spend a pretty fair amount of time in the rural outdoors. Carrying a gun for coyotes, snakes ect, is not a bad idea at all.
 
NigelTufnel said:
If you live in a rural area where your dog might get attacked by a coyote . . . don't bring your dog along for your jog. An adult human going for a jog is under no possibility of attack by a fucking coyote.
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Leash it, and you are right about the puppy not going for a long jog.

You are in the coyotes home when you jog in he wild
 
WinterBorn said:
Don't bring the dog on a jog because it might get attacked by a coyote? WTF? Should we keep our dogs locked up so they are safe from a predator? Coyotes are not rare or endangered. In fact, they are overpopulating and becoming both a menace and an ecological problem.

If I am out with my dog, and a coyote menaces him, I am going to shoot the coyote.


Also, any wild animal that is not afraid of humans is likely sick or more dangerous.

The man was perfectly right to have plugged the coyote. In fact, I would be happy to teach the Gov. a few tricks for coyote hunting.
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I can't believe all this fuss is over dispatching a coyote. Objection is probably more because the the governor dared have a side arm with him on a jog. I only like to shoot coyotes if I'm by myself or with someone. ;)
 
WinterBorn said:
I don't jog, but I do hike a good bit. I spend a pretty fair amount of time in the rural outdoors. Carrying a gun for coyotes, snakes ect, is not a bad idea at all.
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Dad taught us that if we are going to be out....meaning in the woods or fishing....carry a gun. Good advice.
 
WinterBorn said:
Don't bring the dog on a jog because it might get attacked by a coyote? WTF? Should we keep our dogs locked up so they are safe from a predator? Coyotes are not rare or endangered. In fact, they are overpopulating and becoming both a menace and an ecological problem.

If I am out with my dog, and a coyote menaces him, I am going to shoot the coyote.

Also, any wild animal that is not afraid of humans is likely sick or more dangerous.

The man was perfectly right to have plugged the coyote. In fact, I would be happy to teach the Gov. a few tricks for coyote hunting.
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The choice is not between keeping a dog locked up and taking the dog jogging somewhere that it might be attacked by a coyote. All I am suggesting is that it might make more sense to leave the gun and the dog at home than to go jogging with the gun and the dog because there's a possibility of a coyote attack.

I'm not saying that the Governor was wrong to have shot the coyote. If I were in his situation I may have done the same thing. All, I'm suggesting is that it might make some sense to avoid the situation altogether. I don't think that's too crazy of an idea.
 
evince said:
Leash it, and you are right about the puppy not going for a long jog.

You are in the coyotes home when you jog in he wild
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The key word is "long". If it was a long jog, ok. And if the lab is 2 or 3 years old, it will still act like a puppy.


As for it being the "coyotes home", that is all well and good. But the coyote showed no fear of humans and attacked an animal that is not its normal food source. Neither of those attributes says much for the "natural home" idea.

Throughout much of the nation coyote populations have become a problem. Perhaps the response to this article shows part of the reason why.



All the great "don't take the dog jogging" advice aside, what would you have had him do if he were jogging and a coyote attacked his dog?? Just write-off the family pet?
 
NigelTufnel said:
The choice is not between keeping a dog locked up and taking the dog jogging somewhere that it might be attacked by a coyote. All I am suggesting is that it might make more sense to leave the gun and the dog at home than to go jogging with the gun and the dog because there's a possibility of a coyote attack.

I'm not saying that the Governor was wrong to have shot the coyote. If I were in his situation I may have done the same thing. All, I'm suggesting is that it might make some sense to avoid the situation altogether. I don't think that's too crazy of an idea.
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Its not that its a bad idea to leave the dog. Its that I have seen so many people lose pets to coyotes that I recognize the problem for what it is. I have known numerous people who lost dogs & cats to coyotes. And they live in suburban developments.
 
leaningright said:
LOL....this happens all the time here. Way to go gov. Even with a lasersight a coyote is a difficult kill with a pistol unless you're a) a very good pistol shot, which most people aren't or b) nearly right on top of it.
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That is the way it should be. Here, if you even throw a rock at a coyote to scare it away, a certain group of people get pissy.

My condo complex is a smorgasbord for the coyotes. Little rabbits running all around, not to mention the open space across the street that is infested with prairie dogs.

In the winter time, when the snow blankets the ground and you see a nice red splattering.... you know one of the bunnies went down.
 
Superfreak said:
That is the way it should be. Here, if you even throw a rock at a coyote to scare it away, a certain group of people get pissy.

My condo complex is a smorgasbord for the coyotes. Little rabbits running all around, not to mention the open space across the street that is infested with prairie dogs.

In the winter time, when the snow blankets the ground and you see a nice red splattering.... you know one of the bunnies went down.
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I have a good friend up in Marion County AL, and her farm is virtually overrun with coyote. Her brother killed 11 of them last year, and she still has them taking her chickens and even attacking a hunter's dogs.



BTW, just as an FYI: The gun the gov used is a very small, ultra light pistol. He wasn't packing some huge hogleg. The Ruger .380 weighs 9.4 ozs empty. Good jogger's gun.
 
NigelTufnel said:
Maybe he should have left the puppy home if he knew coyotes were in the area. Maybe? I mean, I don't own a .380 Ruger with a laser sight and hollow-point bullets, but even if I did: (1) I wouldn't take it with me for a jog, (2) I wouldn't go jogging anywhere that I felt compelled to carry it; and, (3) I wouldn't go jogging with my dog if I felt the need to carry it to protect the dog from coyotes known to be in the area. But that's just me.
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so essentially... you would let the coyotes dictate your life to you.

Understood.

you obviously have never had to deal with coyotes.
 
Superfreak said:
so essentially... you would let the coyotes dictate your life to you.

Understood.

you obviously have never had to deal with coyotes.
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Obviously, you're kind of an idiot. I mean, if you feel compelled to carry a gun around out of fear of coyotes aren't you kind of letting the coyotes dictate your life to you? And what's the big deal with jogging sans dog?

I understand the freedom-loving macho male American ideal of exercising the freedom to do whatever the fuck I want and to shoot coyotes if they fuck with me or my dog - 'cause fuck yeah my gun is fuckin sweet, but isn't the somewhat wiser course of action to just kind of avoid the situation where possible.

And, no, I haven't had to "deal with" coyotes. Generally, they don't bother me or my dog and I don't bother them.
 
NigelTufnel said:
Maybe he should have left the puppy home if he knew coyotes were in the area. Maybe? I mean, I don't own a .380 Ruger with a laser sight and hollow-point bullets, but even if I did: (1) I wouldn't take it with me for a jog, (2) I wouldn't go jogging anywhere that I felt compelled to carry it; and, (3) I wouldn't go jogging with my dog if I felt the need to carry it to protect the dog from coyotes known to be in the area. But that's just me.
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They come over fences and take them, not kidding.
 
NigelTufnel said:
Obviously, you're kind of an idiot. I mean, if you feel compelled to carry a gun around out of fear of coyotes aren't you kind of letting the coyotes dictate your life to you? And what's the big deal with jogging sans dog?

I understand the freedom-loving macho male American ideal of exercising the freedom to do whatever the fuck I want and to shoot coyotes if they fuck with me or my dog - 'cause fuck yeah my gun is fuckin sweet, but isn't the somewhat wiser course of action to just kind of avoid the situation where possible.

And, no, I haven't had to "deal with" coyotes. Generally, they don't bother me or my dog and I don't bother them.
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Kinda going for the cliche there, aren't you?

The fact is that coyotes are a problem in many places. The area the gov jogs is obviously one of them.

And if the coyote was ignoring a human, and doing so around trails, then it was likely a meance anyway.

A 9.4 oz pistol is not a problem to carry. If it doesn't interfere with his job, and he knows there might be something dangerous out there, why NOT cayy it?
 
This discussion reminded me of reading this earlier in the year. I don't own a gun, have shot one only once in my life, but if I lived in an area with lots of coyote's and had a dog that I actually wanted to let out of the house I might actually consider getting one.


Jessica Simpson's Dog Daisy: Snatched By Coyote!

The alleged singer-actress was dealt a new, sad setback last night when her beloved dog Daisy was abducted, allegedly by a coyote, in Southern California.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2009/09/jessica-simpsons-dog-daisy-snatched-by-coyote/
 
NigelTufnel said:
Maybe he should have left the puppy home if he knew coyotes were in the area. Maybe? I mean, I don't own a .380 Ruger with a laser sight and hollow-point bullets, but even if I did: (1) I wouldn't take it with me for a jog, (2) I wouldn't go jogging anywhere that I felt compelled to carry it; and, (3) I wouldn't go jogging with my dog if I felt the need to carry it to protect the dog from coyotes known to be in the area. But that's just me.
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i wouldn't step outside then, if I were you. But that's just me.
 
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