Texas Deciding What's in Textbooks!

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In Texas Wednesday there will be a school board hearing to determine what does and does not belong in school textbooks.

The state of Texas is grappling with a new social studies curriculum for school children. The decision of what to include and what to leave out of the curriculum has a lot people upset. The decisions that are made in Texas, could affect school children in Georgia.

The Texas school board is responsible for deciding what textbooks wind up in all of the state's public schools. Recently, the board has been reviewing new guidelines for social studies books.

Other states are watching Texas' decisions closely because the state buys a lot of textbooks and that can influence textbook publishers.

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To me, this is an interesting perspective on just where we are in America. We now have "boards" to decide what our kids are taught about and what they are not taught about in schools. Think about this for a moment, just take off any agenda-driven partisan hat, and think... What do you call 'knowledge' that is cherry-picked, coerced, and formulated to convey a particular viewpoint? Isn't this commonly referred to as "Propaganda?"

Regardless of your politics, shouldn't we be advocating an "educational" system be all-inclusive of knowledge? How can we claim to be "educating" our children, when we are not telling them the full story? Among the brilliant ideas these pinheads are mulling over, is the concept of teaching American History from 1876 forward, and disregarding the founding of the nation entirely. They say, because post-reconstruction is "more relevant" to our current history. They have contemplated whether Christopher Columbus is IN or OUT... Whether George Washington is IN or OUT of the TEXTBOOKS!

We no longer have a Public Education system in America! We have State-sponsored Propagandizing of our Youth! ...Really about the same as China!

Why can't our "education" include ALL perspectives, ALL opinions, ALL the information? What is the fundamental fear of knowledge? Could it be, this is not really about knowledge or education, but more about ideology and agendas? Rather than actually EDUCATING our kids, we had rather mull over what is "appropriate" to teach them, and what is unacceptable to even mention! Of course, it is considered appropriate to teach our youth about alternative homosexual lifestyles and denouncement of religion, but unacceptable to teach that we are a nation founded on the principle of endowed rights from our Creator! One is okay to teach, the other is forbidden knowledge!
 
I still find it incredible that Texas teachers' unions are in control of pretty much the entire nation's text books.
 
The NEA's Anti-American Agenda Threatens Our Nation
Who said this? "Allegiance to a nation is the biggest stumbling block to the creation of international government. National boundaries and the concept of sovereignty must be abolished. The quickest way to do this is to condition the young to another and broader alliance. Opinion favorable to international government will be developed in the social studies curriculum in the public schools." Were those the words of an Alger Hiss, or some other well-known traitor to America? No, they were from a handbook for teachers published by the National Education Association, also known as the NEA for short.

And who said this? "Conditioning is a process which may be employed by the teacher to build up attitudes in the child and predispose him to the action by which those attitudes are expressed." Were those words taken from a Communist course book on brainwashing? No, that sage advice is from the Yearbook of the National Education Association.

And who said this? "Education should and can be made a force to equalize the conditions of men." Could it have been those well-known equalitarian idealists Marx or Lenin? No, that was from the Secretary's Report of the National Education Association right here in the USA.

You may be starting to get the point, but here's one more quote for you - where do these words of wisdom come from? "What if teachers don't want power? Organize the ones who do. The building of a power base needs a leader, who is initially more important than the number of people you have behind him. Among others, Martin Luther King, Ho Chi Minh, and Fidel Castro suggest the wisdom of this advice. [Train your] people by making the other side insult or assault your people so that they can learn what the other side is really like. ...getting the [school] superintendent to insult or to assault your people is regarded as of higher value than ten weeks of formal training. It is hard to deal with an enemy with whom you have a personal relationship. You should not let your people fraternize with the enemy." Sounds like it comes from a revolutionary Marxist training manual, doesn't it? It's actually from a official report to the NEA by one Saul Alinsky.

On today's program I'm going to blow the lid off this organization - the National Education Association - and expose its subversive and anti-American agenda for all to see - on American Dissident Voices.
http://www.natall.com/american-dissident-voices/adv031393.html
 
Damocles said:
I still find it incredible that Texas teachers' unions are in control of pretty much the entire nation's text books.
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It does not give me any comfort to know it's in the hands of Texas Liberals!

You've really got to be a special kind of stupid to be liberal and live in Texas!

....Our kids will probably learn that humans and dinosaurs walked together, and the unit of liquid measure called a "gallon" is one tenth the amount an average hat will hold!
 
Tere will always be some group deciding what is or is not taught in our schools.

If for no other reason than to trim the amount of information back to a manageable amount to be taught.
 
Dixie said:
It does not give me any comfort to know it's in the hands of Texas Liberals!

You've really got to be a special kind of stupid to be liberal and live in Texas!

....Our kids will probably learn that humans and dinosaurs walked together, and the unit of liquid measure called a "gallon" is one tenth the amount an average hat will hold!
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They're just internationlists like you neocons dixie. Aren't you on board with this? You consider placing an intrinsic value on keeping jobs for americans to be some kind of socialism, but really it;s just good trade policy. You're as anti-american as they are, in reality. You're all globalists.
 
Damocles said:
I still find it incredible that Texas teachers' unions are in control of pretty much the entire nation's text books.
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I find it incredible that someone can have such a strong opinion about something that is 100% false. The Texas teachers' unions aren't in control of the textbooks in Texas, let alone the entire nation's text books. Instead, the Texas State Board of Education has that power and it has increasingly been using that power to achieve political ends. I agree with you that it is incredible that ten Republicans down in Texas are in control of pretty much the entire nation's text books.
 
I think having a group decide will help eliminate most of the extreme positions.

For example, I think it would be hard to push thru an agenda that has only intelligent design being taught.

But with the ever increasing volume of information out there, there needs to be some way to trim it back.



Dixie, removing Christopher Columbus altogether might not be good, but he certainly needs to be downgraded to a minor explorer. He is also responsible for some horrors on this continent.
 
WinterBorn said:
I think having a group decide will help eliminate most of the extreme positions.

For example, I think it would be hard to push thru an agenda that has only intelligent design being taught.

But with the ever increasing volume of information out there, there needs to be some way to trim it back.

Dixie, removing Christopher Columbus altogether might not be good, but he certainly needs to be downgraded to a minor explorer. He is also responsible for some horrors on this continent.
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I don't think you have to worry about that, about the only context 'intelligent design' can be taught in public schools, is maybe in psychology classes, when referring to crazy people who believe in a sky god! The LIBERALS have been in complete control of our educational system, ever since they got their grubby agenda-driven little hands on it!

I think our children should be taught the truth, and the facts! PERIOD! End of discussion... no further clarification needed or required! Whatever the "subject" is, our education should include as much information from as many sides as possible, MORE information, not LESS! There is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching the fundamentally different perspectives and opinions regarding the origins of life. I don't want to dis-include ANY of them! I want children taught ALL of them! It's not about my personal agenda or my personal beliefs, or forcing those on your children! It's about education and knowledge, and bringing ALL the information to the table for discussion!
 
Dixie said:
I don't think you have to worry about that, about the only context 'intelligent design' can be taught in public schools, is maybe in psychology classes, when referring to crazy people who believe in a sky god! The LIBERALS have been in complete control of our educational system, ever since they got their grubby agenda-driven little hands on it!

I think our children should be taught the truth, and the facts! PERIOD! End of discussion... no further clarification needed or required! Whatever the "subject" is, our education should include as much information from as many sides as possible, MORE information, not LESS! There is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching the fundamentally different perspectives and opinions regarding the origins of life. I don't want to dis-include ANY of them! I want children taught ALL of them! It's not about my personal agenda or my personal beliefs, or forcing those on your children! It's about education and knowledge, and bringing ALL the information to the table for discussion!
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I understand that you want the kids to be taught everything. But the fact is that there is so much information available, it is impossible to teach even a modicum of info about everything.
 
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Dixie said:
Of course, it is considered appropriate to teach our youth about alternative homosexual lifestyles and denouncement of religion, but unacceptable to teach that we are a nation founded on the principle of endowed rights from our Creator! One is okay to teach, the other is forbidden knowledge!
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No idiot, one is acceptable for teaching in school, the other should be TAUGHT AT HOME.
 
Dixie said:
It does not give me any comfort to know it's in the hands of Texas Liberals!

You've really got to be a special kind of stupid to be liberal and live in Texas!

....Our kids will probably learn that humans and dinosaurs walked together, and the unit of liquid measure called a "gallon" is one tenth the amount an average hat will hold!
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You are the only idiot I saw arguing that humans and dinos walked the Earth together...we tried to show you how that wasn't true and you wouldn't listen.

Now suddenly you are worried it might get taught to kids...you were the mental midget claiming we had no proof otherwise.
 
WinterBorn said:
I understand that you want the kids to be taught everything. But the fact is that there is so much information available, it is impossible to teach even a modicum of info about everything.
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So you think it is better we teach them... A bunch of white Europeans formed a nation of states in 1776, but a Civil War was fought over slavery in 1861, so American History will begin in 1876, after we defeated the racists and made everything equal for all! Through the years, the racists have tried to drag us back to those days by espousing religion and racist propaganda, but the Progressives have stood strong on the principles of power to the people!

You're okay with that being taught? I mean, there is way too much "information" we could give them... but why? It's just a waste of time, right?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
You are the only idiot I saw arguing that humans and dinos walked the Earth together...we tried to show you how that wasn't true and you wouldn't listen.

Now suddenly you are worried it might get taught to kids...you were the mental midget claiming we had no proof otherwise.
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No Zapped... I was the idiot who said we don't know this for certain either way. There are many things we don't know for certain, it's not a big deal. We don't have proof for anything regarding humans and dinosaurs, we have evidence, and different people view it different ways, it's called, perspectives.

You didn't show anyone that anything wasn't true, you illustrate daily that you lack the mental wattage to show anyone anything, much less recognize or comprehend the truth. You are a typical pinhead liberal loudmouth, who has very little to offer, other than your usual vile.
 
NigelTufnel said:
I find it incredible that someone can have such a strong opinion about something that is 100% false. The Texas teachers' unions aren't in control of the textbooks in Texas, let alone the entire nation's text books. Instead, the Texas State Board of Education has that power and it has increasingly been using that power to achieve political ends. I agree with you that it is incredible that ten Republicans down in Texas are in control of pretty much the entire nation's text books.
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And who populates the Texas State Board of Education? Is it like the vast majorities of the states and populated by former teachers with a continued and direct loyalty towards a certain union? Hmmm?

I find it incredible that somebody can know just enough to pretend that the point that they made was never thought of by another who went long past that portion of the equation. It's like your old algebra teacher telling you to "show your work" after you've already answered the question correctly.
 
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