Texas bans Plato in universities

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So now Texas A&M has banned Plato from Introduction to philosophy class. They have also attempted to ban an expressions or uses of rights between 10:00pm and 8:00am... Other than of course a carve out for tiki torch carrying Neo-Nazis. Luckily Federal Courts banned that crazy one.

There are a dozen other push backs to the Constitution in Texas, and they appear to have complied with trump's demand for a list of all Jews. Basically put, do not send your children to colleges in Texas.

 
But they still allow 'old dead White dudes' like Shakespeare? How bogus!

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Walt said:
So now Texas A&M has banned Plato from Introduction to philosophy class. They have also attempted to ban an expressions or uses of rights between 10:00pm and 8:00am... Other than of course a carve out for tiki torch carrying Neo-Nazis. Luckily Federal Courts banned that crazy one.

There are a dozen other push backs to the Constitution in Texas, and they appear to have complied with trump's demand for a list of all Jews. Basically put, do not send your children to colleges in Texas.

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The story is that conservatives are upset because the professor included Plato's 'Symposium' on the course syllabus; a dialogue which explores the ethical dimensions of love, but also has some allusions to homosexual relations.
 
Walt said:
So now Texas A&M has banned Plato from Introduction to philosophy class. They have also attempted to ban an expressions or uses of rights between 10:00pm and 8:00am... Other than of course a carve out for tiki torch carrying Neo-Nazis. Luckily Federal Courts banned that crazy one.

There are a dozen other push backs to the Constitution in Texas, and they appear to have complied with trump's demand for a list of all Jews. Basically put, do not send your children to colleges in Texas.

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Again, guys like Wally do what they always do when they're depressed and desperate, lie like the sour sore losers they are. There is no ban on Plato, there is no carve out for republican causes, there is no damage to the first amendment at all. What is Wally crying about? He's mad that woke professors are being told to follow the rules approved by the Board of Regents. Overpaid woke professors that are whiny little bitter bitches trying to create more whiny little bitter bitches are upset they have new rules to follow. They want to continue to tailor their time with your child to indoctrinate them with the alternate reality they and morons like Wally have bought into.

This time? Plato is their tool. It sounds like the lesson centered around a third gender. The only time Plato brings up a third gender is when he was recalling what was said at a dinner party by Aristophanes. Aristophanes tells a comedic, mythical legend about the origin story as his turn to speak came around at the party, explaining human desire and attraction as a longing to reunite with one's severed other half from those primordial beings. The primordial beings? A person with four arms, four legs, and both sex organs before being split into the only two genders that exist. Of all the great writings that Plato contributed this was not one of them, it's not even his story. I'm guessing it was twisted to somehow make the case that there are in fact more than two genders as Plato said, lol. Maybe he should have focused on something Plato wrote about in detail and debated, not some funny story he recalled by a drunk dinner guest. It was a joke back then, just as it is today.

Calm down Wally, all that manufactured rage is bad for your health. As usual, I'm here to help.
 
Plato is not being broadly banned at Texas A&M, but specific excerpts from Plato’s Symposium were removed from at least one course syllabus as part of a system‑wide crackdown on what the Board of Regents calls “race and gender ideology.” The situation is real, but the scope is narrower and more bureaucratic than the headline suggests.
 
Jake Starkey said:
Plato is not being broadly banned at Texas A&M, but specific excerpts from Plato’s Symposium were removed from at least one course syllabus as part of a system‑wide crackdown on what the Board of Regents calls “race and gender ideology.” The situation is real, but the scope is narrower and more bureaucratic than the headline suggests.
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Sort of. They are banning Plato from many, many courses, because they are claiming he is always about "race and gender ideology". You see Plato was not a Christian... Which does not seem important to me, but for some reason they think that is important.

As for the ban on expression of ideas between 10:00pm and 8:00am, with some carve outs for Christian "religious activity", like tiki torch marching Neo-Nazis, that was by its very nature not narrow.

The University Democrats are required to jump through all sorts of hoops to have outside speakers, are required to read a statement about the university not supporting them, and are constantly monitored. They need to keep a lawyer on speed dial. Meanwhile, the Republicans are heavily supported by the universities.
 
Texas has become a disgrace to higher education.

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🧱 The Three Thinkers in Order​

  1. Socrates (469/470–399 BCE) — The foundational Athenian philosopher whose method of questioning shaped Western thought. He left no writings; we know him mainly through Plato.
  2. Plato (428/427–348/347 BCE) — Socrates’ student, founder of the Academy, and author of dialogues exploring ethics, politics, metaphysics, and knowledge.
  3. Aristotle (384–322 BCE) — Plato’s student, tutor to Alexander the Great, and systematizer of logic, biology, ethics, and political theory.
 
Tobytone said:
Of all the great writings that Plato contributed this was not one of them.
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This is one of Plato's most well regarded and well known dialogues. I've never heard a synopsis of Plato's dialogues presented without this one being mentioned.
It's concepts about the ethical dimensions of love have seeped into the popular consciousness, even for people who never heard of this dialogue. Everyone has talked about Platonic love and Platonic friendship, but few people know where this concept comes from.
 
Cypress said:
The story is that conservatives are upset because the professor included Plato's 'Symposium' on the course syllabus; a dialogue which explores the ethical dimensions of love, but also has some allusions to homosexual relations.
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The exact same reason Socrates was sentenced to death.
 
Plato was skeptical about gods. That is not permitted by the Christian Right. Trump is paying them off by giving them control over school curriculum. Big Brother Christian is in charge.
 
Crepitus said:
Plato is an old dead white dude too.
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It's the gay thing that upsets people with low self-esteem. Most JPP MAGAts are closet homosexuals or have "impure thoughts" about other men and it scares them.

Even within the Symposium, the definitionn of the ideal love between males excludes only genital contact leading to orgasm. Plato includes sleeping together naked, embracing, hugging, caressing, and kissing of all parts of the body as justifiable expressions of true "Platonic love". He considers heterosexual love to be but a pallid reflection of the ideal, and places great emphasis upon the attractiveness and youthfulness of the boyfriend. But even while he mildly discourages sexual intercourse between men, and praises nobility and high-minded virtue, he is using the tongue-in-cheek humor of classic High Camp....

...Although Plato once had a concubine named Archeanassa, he is also known to have been the lover of at least three young men, as evidenced in three extant fragments of his love-poetry: Dion, "who filled my heart with the madness of love"; Aster, whose name means "star," described in two epigrams about how Plato envies the sky which gazes upon his favorite "star" with many starry eyes; and none other than the very same Agathon of the Symposium: "When I kissed you, Agathon, I felt your soul on my lips: as if it would penetrate into my heart with quivering longing."

APA PsycNet

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This study examined the relationship between homophobia (defined as self-reported negative affect, avoidance, and aggression toward homosexuals) and homosexual aggression.
IAHS positively predicted the viewing time of homosexual photographs among men with a high score of homonegativity. Men with a high homonegativity score looked significantly longer at homosexual than at heterosexual photographs but only when they had a high IAHS.

Conclusion​

These findings confirm the importance of considering the variability in impulsive processes to understand why some (but not all) men high in homophobia have homosexual interest. These findings reinforce the theoretical basis for elaborating a dual-process model for behaviors in the sexual context.
 
Walt said:
So now Texas A&M has banned Plato from Introduction to philosophy class. They have also attempted to ban an expressions or uses of rights between 10:00pm and 8:00am... Other than of course a carve out for tiki torch carrying Neo-Nazis. Luckily Federal Courts banned that crazy one.

There are a dozen other push backs to the Constitution in Texas, and they appear to have complied with trump's demand for a list of all Jews. Basically put, do not send your children to colleges in Texas.

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Plato is typically regarded as The West's greatest philosopher, and Western culture - more generally speaking - is objectively superior to that of any other racial/ethnic group's culture that ever emerged in the 6000-year history of human civilization

This is a symptom of the decline of Western culture in America, It is largely due to decades of masse legal and illegal immigration of Darkies into the US from the Third World who hate White Westerners and their culture because they realise that their own cultures are - in comparison - inferior and so - out of vicious spite ( a malevolent resentment)- they seek to destroy /erase that which they know they were never able to develop (and never will be able to develop) for themselves.. This basically because they have got shit for brains and spend most of their time butt-holing goats in Gaza, cannibalising pygmies in the Congo or practicing Voodoo in Hait !!


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Walt said:
So now Texas A&M has banned Plato from Introduction to philosophy class. They have also attempted to ban an expressions or uses of rights between 10:00pm and 8:00am... Other than of course a carve out for tiki torch carrying Neo-Nazis. Luckily Federal Courts banned that crazy one.

There are a dozen other push backs to the Constitution in Texas, and they appear to have complied with trump's demand for a list of all Jews. Basically put, do not send your children to colleges in Texas.

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ROFL

You post the most insane lies, Never Truthful Walt.
 
Cypress said:
This is one of Plato's most well regarded and well known dialogues. I've never heard a synopsis of Plato's dialogues presented without this one being mentioned.
It's concepts about the ethical dimensions of love have seeped into the popular consciousness, even for people who never heard of this dialogue. Everyone has talked about Platonic love and Platonic friendship, but few people know where this concept comes from.
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Because you hang out with libtards. Try reading it all by yourself and coming to your very own conclusions. Libtards love to twist history for their political needs. At a dinner party people would each have a turn to speak, telling stories or debating a variety of issues. This story was not Plato's, he was recalling Aristophane's story, which again, he described as a comedic tale.

Platonic love? Okay sure, that idea floats around from the same dialogue, but it's mostly from Socrates' speech about climbing the ladder of beauty to the Form of the Good, not Aristophanes' gender-bending origin story. Again, that was nothing more than an interesting funny little myth, nothing more. To say it was food for thought is a major stretch for those not taught by a moron.

Keep in mind, these were the first people that wrote and talked about such subjects, they're not known for being right. They paved the way for many future philosophers who were dialing into what it means to be. Historic? Sure. Groundbreaking? Absolutely. Correct? Not so much.
 
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