Tesla Model 3 named winner in KBB’s 5-Year Cost to Own Awards 2022. MAGA wets panties

Wut?? Like what programming?

There is a simple code change to allow the car to go at quicker speeds... If you pay the extra money they simply change one item from N to Y and boom, car has some extra speed that you have paid for... If you fix your own Tesla this voids the warranty, and regardless of what you paid for they can then update the software. The 1st thing they do it change it so quick charge from a Tesla station no longer works, the second is they take away the boost so you car no longer performs as you paid for it to perform.
 
There is a simple code change to allow the car to go at quicker speeds... If you pay the extra money they simply change one item from N to Y and boom, car has some extra speed that you have paid for... If you fix your own Tesla this voids the warranty, and regardless of what you paid for they can then update the software. The 1st thing they do it change it so quick charge from a Tesla station no longer works, the second is they take away the boost so you car no longer performs as you paid for it to perform.

Oh dear. Why would they disable quick charging? Costs *them* more money when you use it?

I'll pass that along to Mr. Owl, who has been researching them for a possible future purchase. Do you have a link or site I can send him?
 
Oh dear. Why would they disable quick charging? Costs *them* more money when you use it?

I'll pass that along to Mr. Owl, who has been researching them for a possible future purchase. Do you have a link or site I can send him?

There's some guy who does videos of himself fixing up "totalled" Tesla vehicles, he talks about these things regularly.

I would suggest him going for a Rivian (The R1T is a great electric pickup truck). I love Tesla vehicles, don't get me wrong, I just dislike the "warranty" rules and the reality that I am basically renting it. If you want to trade it in you have to go through Tesla for that too... per their contracts that you sign when you "purchase" one of these things. It really depends on how much your husband cares about open source stuff. If he doesn't care that nobody at all but a Tesla mechanic can ever work on it... then go for it.
 
There's some guy who does videos of himself fixing up "totalled" Tesla vehicles, he talks about these things regularly.

I would suggest him going for a Rivian (The R1T is a great electric pickup truck). I love Tesla vehicles, don't get me wrong, I just dislike the "warranty" rules and the reality that I am basically renting it. If you want to trade it in you have to go through Tesla for that too... per their contracts that you sign when you "purchase" one of these things. It really depends on how much your husband cares about open source stuff. If he doesn't care that nobody at all but a Tesla mechanic can ever work on it... then go for it.

I'm thinking that that is bullshit then. He pays cash for our vehicles rather than getting a loan. What's the point if you don't actually "own" it then, whether you pay cash or get a note? Bah.
 
I'm thinking that that is bullshit then. He pays cash for our vehicles rather than getting a loan. What's the point if you don't actually "own" it then, whether you pay cash or get a note? Bah.

The Rivian is not Tesla, BTW... LOL. Look it up, it's a newly released EV that I am thinking of purchasing myself.
 
Interesting:

Adding to its prodigious losses - its shares have fallen more than 70% YTD - shares of electric carmaker Rivian continued to tumble on Monday following reports that Ford and another investor are looking to sell their shares at a discount as the company's post-IPO lockup finally expires, allowing insiders to cash out (while their shares are still worth something).

CNBC reported Sunday that Ford is to offer 8 million Rivian shares via Goldman Sachs, while JPMorgan is readying a sale of 13 million to 15 million shares belonging to other insiders.

Rivian shares were down nearly 10% at their peak during the pre-market selloff.

Rivian's IPO was a memorable one, and emblematic of the profit-less tech craze that characterized the pandemic-era market. It was the sixth biggest IPO in US history, generating more than $13 billion to fund growth for the EV-maker, unfortunately, the production of its products at its plant in Normal, Illinois has lagged due to supply-chain pressures. Back in March, the company said it expected to produce 25,000 electric trucks and SUVs this year, as the start-up battled through supply chain constraints and internal production snags. That would be just half of the vehicle production forecast to investors last year as part of its IPO roadshow.

Late last month, Amazon and Ford revealed that they had lost a combined $12.3 billion on their Rivian investments.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-...n-Falls-As-Ford-Dumps-Millions-Of-Shares.html
 
You never really own a Tesla. Tesla Corp can reach into and change programming in your car every time you charge at one of their stations.

So I guess you never really own your computer or iPhone since the manufacturer can change software remotely as well.
Who wouldn't Tesla owners want Tesla to update their software to add new features and fix bugs?
Tesla just sent a new software update a few days ago to update the interface. I kinda like the new functions.
Tesla owners love the new software updates that improve the car.

You should buy a Tesla. You'd love it, too.
 
The Rivian is not Tesla, BTW... LOL. Look it up, it's a newly released EV that I am thinking of purchasing myself.

Will do. My comment was directed at the Tesla stuff. I don't see how, if someone purchases and OWNS something, the seller can come back later and tell you that you can't sell it or trade it in or tinker around with its programming.
 
So I guess you never really own your computer or iPhone since the manufacturer can change software remotely as well.
Who wouldn't Tesla owners want Tesla to update their software to add new features and fix bugs?
Tesla just sent a new software update a few days ago to update the interface. I kinda like the new functions.
Tesla owners love the new software updates that improve the car.

You should buy a Tesla. You'd love it, too.

You have one? Type? Pros? Cons? Mr. Owl loves tech, especially new tech. I'm more of a mind with Damo and don't like the idea of them telling you that you can't just outright sell it, or trade it in, or them having the power to do whatever to it remotely.
 
So I guess you never really own your computer or iPhone since the manufacturer can change software remotely as well.
Who wouldn't Tesla owners want Tesla to update their software to add new features and fix bugs?
Tesla just sent a new software update a few days ago to update the interface. I kinda like the new functions.
Tesla owners love the new software updates that improve the car.

You should buy a Tesla. You'd love it, too.

I am not so sure that we can have confidence in how much people like Tesla after they buy/rent it, because Tesla seems like a company that would go out of their way to punish people who say anything negative about Tesla, and they have so many ways they can do it.
 
You're welcome. Too bad you don't make enough money to buy a Tesla. I feel sorry for you.
Oh I drive a 75K 2021 Ford F250 it tows my 36 ft 5th wheel much better than a Tesla. :laugh: But thanks again for helping buy Twitter and putting a bunch of Libratards out of work. Elon says he is going to reduce the Twitter staff by 1000 people. :rofl2:
 
So I guess you never really own your computer or iPhone since the manufacturer can change software remotely as well.
Who wouldn't Tesla owners want Tesla to update their software to add new features and fix bugs?
Tesla just sent a new software update a few days ago to update the interface. I kinda like the new functions.
Tesla owners love the new software updates that improve the car.

You should buy a Tesla. You'd love it, too.

You should not compare cars to computers... it is foolish....

Though yeah, the current Microsoft Office, you rent it... from the cloud.

Basically what I am talking about: Imagine buying a Chevy Nova (1971), then having to only buy gas from Chevy, and if any mechanic worked on it other than the one at the dealership (not a dealership, you cannot even buy this car through anyone other than Tesla) it would void the warranty and they would come to your house and remove the 4 barrel carburetor and replace it with one that will make it so that the car will not be able to go as fast as before... then they would also make it so when you fueled your vehicle the gas pump would only deliver 2 ounces of fuel per second so it would take you hours to fuel up... This would also make it so you could not trade it in for another vehicle in the future as you are contractually obligated to trade it in at Chevy and they would reject your trade because some mechanic touched it that was not one that worked for Chevy...

Tell me how much of that car you actually own at that point.
 
I am not so sure that we can have confidence in how much people like Tesla after they buy/rent it, because Tesla seems like a company that would go out of their way to punish people who say anything negative about Tesla, and they have so many ways they can do it.
Elon might throw them off of Twitter :laugh:
 
Oh dear. Why would they disable quick charging? Costs *them* more money when you use it?

I'll pass that along to Mr. Owl, who has been researching them for a possible future purchase. Do you have a link or site I can send him?

Don't pass that on. Damocles had NO FUCKING IDEA what he's talking about. Any link he sends you will be from a MAGA website infested with with lies and misinformation. Do your own research or talk to a Tesla owner. There's a reason Tesla can't keep up with demand. People LOVE their Teslas. And MAGA wets panties.
 
You should not compare cars to computers... it is foolish....

Though yeah, the current Microsoft Office, you rent it... from the cloud.

Basically what I am talking about: Imagine buying a Chevy Nova (1971), then having to only buy gas from Chevy, and if any mechanic worked on it other than the one at the dealership (not a dealership, you cannot even buy this car through anyone other than Tesla) it would void the warranty and they would come to your house and remove the 4 barrel carburetor and replace it with one that will make it so that the car will not be able to go as fast as before... then they would also make it so when you fueled your vehicle the gas pump would only deliver 2 ounces of fuel per second so it would take you hours to fuel up... This would also make it so you could not trade it in for another vehicle in the future as you are contractually obligated to trade it in at Chevy and they would reject your trade because some mechanic touched it that was not one that worked for Chevy...

Tell me how much of that car you actually own at that point.

Your analogy is laughable. You really have NO FUCKING IDEA what the fuck you are talking about. I'm going to copy your post and post it on the Reddit Tesla group forum so they can all have a good laugh at your expense.

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
 
This guy is an idiot, Owl. But you do you.

If I send you links it will be the videos of the guy talking about fixing up wrecked Tesla vehicles. LOL
 
You talk about politics making for interesting bedfellows. You have Elon Musk who has been called a Nazi, a supporter of white supremacy, runs a racist company (Tesla) and could be responsible for the end of our democracy but he makes a car that liberals like and conservatives (supposedly) don't.

He has been called a Nazi? Does that make him a Nazi? Supporter of white supremacy? Where are you getting this radical shit? Tucker Carlson?
And could be responsible for the end of our democracy??? Are you serious? I'd love to see you connect the dots on that one.
And what makes you think conservatives don't like Teslas?

You used to be a rational, cogent poster. You're turning into a MAGA. Sorry to see it, Cawacko.
 
Tesla build quality still sucks, they either cant learn how to build cars properly or else they are not interested. Then there is the whole matter of getting repairs done, when Tesla must do it, and you cant know how motivated they will be to solve the problem with your car.
 
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