Terrible news for the Creation Science museum (and Republicans)

Sounds like you’re defining lefties lol.

So, our intellect is able to comprehend the true nature of things. How do we know this to be true and are we allowed to question that *assumption*?

Ugh. Leave it to the small minded among us (i.e., you) to imagine philosophy as a political construct. Before you became brainwashed, you probably realized that not everything in life is political in nature. Intellectualism and anti-intellectualism, like science in general, do not have foundations in politics; and if you were able to separate them in your mind, the world would be a far more pleasant place for all of us.

"The true nature of things" is restricted by our perception of "things".
 
Probably true. Religion, like lots of things, is probably a great thing that humans corrupted.

Indeed.

I am not a religious scholar, but I have invested time learning about the Baghavad Gita, the Daodejing, the Pali canon, the New Testament --- and it has been nothing but a benefit to me. I literally cannot think of any downsides to me from learning about those religious tenets.
 
Ugh. Leave it to the small minded among us (i.e., you) to imagine philosophy as a political construct. Before you became brainwashed, you probably realized that not everything in life is political in nature. Intellectualism and anti-intellectualism, like science in general, do not have foundations in politics; and if you were able to separate them in your mind, the world would be a far more pleasant place for all of us.

"The true nature of things" is restricted by our perception of "things".

Sarcasm escapes you, apparently lol.
 
Don't agree. But that was not the argument. The idea was that natural inclinations are inherently good.

Define "good". Survival of the species would be one definition. Obviously species are which are "bad", meaning acting in manners contrary to species survival, would soon be an extinct species.
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Rape and murder may be pleasing to the individual, but contrary to the survival of the group, tribe, troop, flock, whatever. Which is why all human cultures, AFAIK, condemn murderers and rapists. I'm not an anthropologist so maybe one of them can chime in.

While there are exceptions to human rules, logically I'm sure everyone can see why rape and murder would cause breakdowns in human culture.
 
Indeed.

I am not a religious scholar, but I have invested time learning about the Baghavad Gita, the Daodejing, the Pali canon, the New Testament --- and it has been nothing but a benefit to me. I literally cannot think of any downsides to me from learning about those religious tenets.

Same here. In fact, I think all of those texts are fascinating. Well, parts of each of them are a drag, I suppose. (The Book of Numbers bores me to tears.) I just (and I assume you feel similarly) cannot take the leap into considering any of them "divine". We're taught to read carefully and think critically in literature classes. We sit behind desks and debate The Scarlet Letter and Of Mice and Men. Then religious people get their hands on whatever their preferred book is and act like there can only be one correct interpretation. Thousands of pages and no room for disagreement. It doesn't make any sense.
 
That's amazing. Human advancement in the past several thousand years was astonishing on a 200,000 year scale, but it's even more incredible when stretched across 300,000 years. Unfortunately, many millions of people want to reverse some of that progress and return humanity to the dark ages.

Who wants to return to the Dark Ages? Anyone you can name in particular? What do you consider 'progress'?
 
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