Tennessee's Creationism Bill: Why Are We Still Fighting Over Evolution?

OK, let's put it on the table. You say creationism is real. Demonstrate.............Can't demonstrate? Must be bullshit. Don't teach my kids that bullshit.

are you going to pretend you'd have any better luck proving that humans and date palms have a common ancestor?.....don't teach my kids that bullshit....
 
are you going to pretend you'd have any better luck proving that humans and date palms have a common ancestor?.....don't teach my kids that bullshit....

It's not bullshit and can be demonstrated and even measured. You couldn't demonstrate one iota of truth in your faith based bullshit if you had eternity to do it. Why? Because it's fucking bullshit!!! That's why!!!!!! Luck? That's a christian thing, correct? Idiot.
 
I love how the religious far right(not all the right) argue against evolution on small gaps or on the "Nothing this complicated..." theory. There answering theory is something like "Because it is" and they have no problems at all with that.
 
I love how the religious far right(not all the right) argue against evolution on small gaps or on the "Nothing this complicated..." theory. There answering theory is something like "Because it is" and they have no problems at all with that.

the scientific method is still foreign to them
 
I love how the religious far right(not all the right) argue against evolution on small gaps or on the "Nothing this complicated..." theory. There answering theory is something like "Because it is" and they have no problems at all with that.

and I find it amusing that you refuse to believe your proposition is nothing more than a competing faith choice......
 
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Show me the scientific method behind the conclusion that creationism offers...

i haven't argued it's based on a scientific method....I have argued it's a faith choice......I believe your position is as well....convince me it's based on a scientific method instead.....
 
Original Post Title: Tennessee's Creationism Bill: Why Are We Still Fighting Over Evolution?

It is because many look at it as one theory versus another theory....or one religion (science) versus another religion. This "battle" will wage on for a few more years.
 
It is because many look at it as one theory versus another theory....or one religion (science) versus another religion. This "battle" will wage on for a few more years.

how many is many?

and the battle is science VS myth and religion and always has been - this is one reason that 'cult' leaders and 'prophets' hate education

science and be demonstrated and faith cannot...sigh

oh well
 
how many is many?

I would estimate around 80% or so.

and the battle is science VS myth and religion and always has been - this is one reason that 'cult' leaders and 'prophets' hate education

I think I stated that pretty much in my post above, though I did call science a religion, which is the way several folks look at it. "Hate education" is not a very valid descriptor though, IMO. While many religious folks will point out sin (according to their book) and encourage people to eschew it, the vast majority do not "hate." Again, my opinion.

science and be demonstrated and faith cannot...sigh

oh well

You are correct that science can be demonstrated .... building theories based on observance due to research....but at some point speculation does come into play. Then the researcher has to do more research in order to back up that speculation. The scientific model is great for developing speculation on how life began, how old the earth is, what went with the dinosaurs, man's effect on global warming, etc. But a great many things folks are expected to accept...on...on...on faith. Faith in the accuracy of a particular man's research....and his conclusions based on such. Also faith that no "supreme being" ever had a hand in all that has occurred.

I have had these discussions on this board before and am on record as saying that I don't want creationism taught to my kid in the classroom. I will/do teach him what I perceive to be truth at home. I just post this to show that I can see why the "debate" continues year after year. Be patient, in a few years there will be no such debate....at least in this country.
 
how many is many?

and the battle is science VS myth and religion and always has been - this is one reason that 'cult' leaders and 'prophets' hate education

science and be demonstrated and faith cannot...sigh

oh well

religion creates a false comfort zone for weak minds. Everything will be OK, you'll go to a better place, New Orleans was destroyed because of the black people and the fags, etc. Science proves all that false and it scares the hell out of the religious nuts. Others just passively allow this crap to be said and taught without thinking too much about it. That's what happened to me. I was raised and remained a christian until I thought about it. Critical thinking, anathema to christians, changes things.
 
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