Ted Kennedy, Still an embarresment to the country even in death

bravo said:
You really need to get a grip on reality, dear......
Just because Wilson didn't find out what was going on don't mean nothing was going on.......is it really any surprise that Bush put more faith in British intell. than Joe Wilson, anti-Bush left wing partisan ?

If you think Bush went to war with Saddam because he thought Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake in Niger, you have a very limited and narrow perspective on
what was going in the world from 1996 thru 2003.....
Saddams shopping habits in Africa were hardly the impetus for removing Saddam from power...even if he did believe the British governments bogus intell.......after all, it was Clinton's idea to rid Iraq of Saddam in the first place, BY....(before yellowcake) and before GW Bush.....Clinton made it US policy.....

No, Saddam's demise was in the making for a long time, it pre-dated GW and even Clinton.....the UN Resolutions (about 16 or 18 in number) that were passed unanimously by the entire UN condemning Saddam (and what we NOW know was his imaginary WMD) just might have had something to do with Bush's decision making and obviously the erroneous intelligence he was surrounded with from our own CIA and the 16 agency's that produce the NIE........

You should have been paying closer attention to the world for the last 15 years to get a handle on history as it was.....not as the DNC would like to re-write it....

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bush passed the Iraq Resolution in October 2002 ?

Sorry Sweetie....The United States Congress passed the Iraq Resolution with a bi-partisan vote....not Bush

No resolution, no war......chew on that undeniable fact.
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My grip on reality is firm. Let's take a quick look at the resolution and the lies that abound in it.

Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national security of the United States
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Our national security was never threatened by Kuwait.

Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;
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According to Hussein Kamel, Saddam's son-in-law, WMD were destroyed after the Persian Gulf war. According to Joe Wilson there was no evidence for Iraq buying yellowcake uranium from Niger.

Interview with Hussein Kamel on August 22, 1995

What I Didn't Find in Africa


Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States...
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False fear-mongering.

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush...
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False. Attempting to assassinate GHWB does not translate to "a willingness to attack the U.S."

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001, underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;
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False attempts to tie Iraq with 9/11. False claims that Iraq had WMD.

a) Authorization.--The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--
(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq;
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Falsely stating Iraq was planning to attack the U.S.

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq...
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False fear-mongering that Iraq was a threat to our national security.
 
Explain to us how Libya was a threat to our national security. Bush got a vote of support from congress. Obama just went to war. Hypocrites.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I endorsed the Libya action because it was sanctioned by the UN and there were no boots on the ground.
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So now the UN dictates American foreign policy and dictates to the American people without a vote by our elected representative when we go to war. Bootlicker.
 
christiefan915 said:
Was there a congressional resolution for the Persian Gulf war?
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You should really know the answer to your question before you ask it. That's the first thing a lawyer is taught. That way there are no suprises. Yes, on Jan 12, 1991 the US congress voted to authorise the use of force.

Now you look stupid.
 
Alias said:
You should really know the answer to your question before you ask it. That's the first thing a lawyer is taught. That way there are no suprises. Yes, on Jan 12, 1991 the US congress voted to authorise the use of force.

Now you look stupid.
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Ha, I know you want to think that.

Did congress pass resolutions on the following: Nixon bombing Cambodia, Nixon carpet-bombing Hanoi, Nixon mining NV ports? How about these: the Iran hostage rescue attempt (1980), military exercises in Honduras (1983), the participation of U.S. marines in a multinational force in Lebanon (1982–1983), invasion of Grenada (1983), bombing of Libya (1986), invasion of Panama (1989), humanitarian mission to Somalia (1992–1994), and bombing of Kosovo (1999)

Time for you to read up on the War Powers resolution, passed by Congress.
 
Onceler said:
Alias can't relate to stuff like that. Anything outside of party lockstep is completely alien.
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You would really look smarter by staying silent. Bush not only got congressional approval while Obama didn't, Obama also broke his promise to the American people to never attack a nation that was no direct threat.

Talk about a partisan hack.
 
Alias said:
You would really look smarter by staying silent. Bush not only got congressional approval while Obama didn't, Obama also broke his promise to the American people to never attack a nation that was no direct threat.

Talk about a partisan hack.
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I was against Libya from day 1.

Yep - talk about a partisan hack. I'm still cracking up that you don't have any idea what it means to disagree with someone you consider to be on "your side." No wonder all you do is apologize for Bush et al.
 
Onceler said:
I was against Libya from day 1.

Yep - talk about a partisan hack. I'm still cracking up that you don't have any idea what it means to disagree with someone you consider to be on "your side." No wonder all you do is apologize for Bush et al.
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I don't "apologize" for anyone. I am setting the record straight. You are not allowed to lie about history to salvage your political views.
 
Onceler said:
You apologize for Bush. Over & over & over again.

It's hard to watch, actually.
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I state the facts. That is not apologizing. You haven't shown me wrong on anything. I'm not spinning anything. You need to accept the facts and reality even if they don't line up with your agenda. If it's hard to watch, then go back to living in la la land.
 
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