Teabaggers Getting Shafted By Monied Interests

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While some here are celebrating the victory of a possible deal to push the date back until the week before Thanksgiving. The money behind the Republican Party is thinking about getting rid of the obstructionist Teabaggers in the party. They have grown tired of their intransigence and they are going to be making some changes in the way they finance races and they are even talking about running primary challenges to the Teabaggers. Say it isn't so! But it is, it is so! Read this and weep all you ignorant teabaggers your run is done. These people know it isn't Obama who is causing the problem it is the Teabaggers in the House. " 'It’s clearly this [teabagger] faction within the Republican Party that’s causing the issue right now,' said David M. Cote, chief executive of Honeywell."

Looks like things are going to be changing. And it is probably this renewed pressure that has the Republicans looking for a way out of the impasse that the Tea Baggers created.


Business Groups See Loss of Sway Over House G.O.P.
By ERIC LIPTON, NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and NELSON D. SCHWARTZ
Published: October 9, 2013 932 Comments

WASHINGTON — As the government shutdown grinds toward a potential debt default, some of the country’s most influential business executives have come to a conclusion all but unthinkable a few years ago: Their voices are carrying little weight with the House majority that their millions of dollars in campaign contributions helped build and sustain.

Their frustration has grown so intense in recent days that several trade association officials warned in interviews on Wednesday that they were considering helping wage primary campaigns against Republican lawmakers who had worked to engineer the political standoff in Washington.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/10/us/business-groups-see-loss-of-sway-over-house-gop.html?hp&_r=0
 
This was quite predictable when Cruz obviously bit off more than he could chew and set himself up to get all the marbles. It was a gamble he's clearly lost. Predictable too in that no government can function properly for a country when it's being held hostage by a fringe element such as the teabaggers.

This certainly has the potential to completely destroy them and it's always been in the Republican party's best interest to do so. It will be done by the right with the welcomed assistance of the left.

America will then have a hope of recovering and functioning in a manner that will ensure it's continuing financial survival.
 
the tea party is dying.

its going to be smothered by the republican big money.

The little trick didn't work.

they stole it from ron paul to give the republican party cover after the complete disaster of the Bush admin.

now its like a flesh eating virus.


they will cut it away and leave it rotting in the gutter
 
evince said:
the tea party is dying.

its going to be smothered by the republican big money.

The little trick didn't work.

they stole it from ron paul to give the republican party cover after the complete disaster of the Bush admin.

now its like a flesh eating virus.


they will cut it away and leave it rotting in the gutter
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This is one of the best posts I've read from you! It's a great analysis of how the teabagger element was ever able to assert itself to the degree that it has.

Cruz played the baggers' hand too prematurely and in an awkward way when he went for Obamacare. That's the last opportunity they will ever have. Better days could soon be on the horizon for America.

From a Canadian's perspective it's so crystal clear what has been going on. You nailed it too!
 
I will forever resent you Canadians for having turned Cruz out of your country and loose on us!!!!!!!! Just kidding you, monty1!!!!!!!!

Petula
 
monty1 said:
This is one of the best posts I've read from you! It's a great analysis of how the teabagger element was ever able to assert itself to the degree that it has.

Cruz played the baggers' hand too prematurely and in an awkward way when he went for Obamacare. That's the last opportunity they will ever have. Better days could soon be on the horizon for America.

From a Canadian's perspective it's so crystal clear what has been going on. You nailed it too!
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Now maybe you will understand that Americans are NOT stupid.

We have been cheated out of our true choices for offices by a rouge republican party.

We are a good and decent people and Democracy works GREAT when you don't have a party in a two party system that is run by the wealthy willing to CHEAT to win.


Hope you refrain from your tea party like hate of everything American for a change
 
evince said:
the Koch brothers are in for a big money fight.

get the popcorn
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Here's some more background on this so-called budget crisis:


In a story that appeared in the Sunday Edition of The New York Times, it was claimed that David Koch and Edwin Meese III, one of the most despicable politicians in American history, were behind the government shutdown.

That front page story detailed a private meeting in which the plan to derail the ACA by cutting off funding for the entire federal government was hatched.


A Crisis Months in the Planning
Conservatives Focused on Budget as Health Law Weapon
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and MIKE McINTIRE

WASHINGTON — Shortly after President Obama started his second term, a loose-knit coalition of conservative activists led by former Attorney General Edwin Meese III gathered in the capital to plot strategy. Their push to repeal Mr. Obama’s health care law was going nowhere, and they desperately needed a new plan.

Out of that session, held one morning in a location the members insist on keeping secret, came a little-noticed “blueprint to defunding Obamacare,” signed by Mr. Meese and leaders of more than three dozen conservative groups.

It articulated a take-no-prisoners legislative strategy that had long percolated in conservative circles: that Republicans could derail the health care overhaul if conservative lawmakers were willing to push fellow Republicans — including their cautious leaders — into cutting off financing for the entire federal government.

“We felt very strongly at the start of this year that the House needed to use the power of the purse,” said one coalition member, Michael A. Needham, who runs Heritage Action for America, the political arm of the Heritage Foundation. “At least at Heritage Action, we felt very strongly from the start that this was a fight that we were going to pick.”

Last week the country witnessed the fallout from that strategy: a standoff that has shuttered much of the federal bureaucracy and unsettled the nation.
To many Americans, the shutdown came out of nowhere. But interviews with a wide array of conservatives show that the confrontation that precipitated the crisis was the outgrowth of a long-running effort to undo the law, the Affordable Care Act, since its passage in 2010 — waged by a galaxy of conservative groups with more money, organized tactics and interconnections than is commonly known.

With polls showing Americans deeply divided over the law, conservatives believe that the public is behind them. Although the law’s opponents say that shutting down the government was not their objective, the activists anticipated that a shutdown could occur — and worked with members of the Tea Party caucus in Congress who were excited about drawing a red line against a law they despise.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/u...ing.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0&pagewanted=print


I am sure that article prompted this reply from Koch Industries which is not the same thing as the Koch Brothers or David Koch who was personally named in The New York Times article and whose picture appeared together with Meese’s on the front page.

Koch Industries: We Are Not Behind The Government Shutdown
Dylan Scott – October 9, 2013

In a letter to U.S senators dated Wednesday, Koch Industries denied ever advocating for a government shutdown as a way to force the defunding of Obamacare. The letter was in response to comments on the Senate floor Tuesday by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) in which he blamed Koch for the shutdown, which followed a conservative push to pressure Democrats into defunding or delaying Obamacare to keep the government open.

"Koch believes that Obamacare will increase deficits, lead to an overall lowering of the standard of health care in America, and raise taxes," the letter said. "However, Koch has not taken a position on the legislative tactic of tying the continuing resolution to defunding Obamacare nor have we lobbied on legislative provisions defunding Obamacare."

The letter was sent by Philip Ellender, president of government and public affairs for Koch Companies Public Sector, LLC. It was not immediately clear if the letter was sent to all senators.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/koch-we-never-support-defunding-obamacare
 
Dantès said:
Here's some more background on this so-called budget crisis:


In a story that appeared in the Sunday Edition of The New York Times, it was claimed that David Koch and Edwin Meese III, one of the most despicable politicians in American history, were behind the government shutdown.

That front page story detailed a private meeting in which the plan to derail the ACA by cutting off funding for the entire federal government was hatched.


A Crisis Months in the Planning
Conservatives Focused on Budget as Health Law Weapon
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG and MIKE McINTIRE

WASHINGTON — Shortly after President Obama started his second term, a loose-knit coalition of conservative activists led by former Attorney General Edwin Meese III gathered in the capital to plot strategy. Their push to repeal Mr. Obama’s health care law was going nowhere, and they desperately needed a new plan.

Out of that session, held one morning in a location the members insist on keeping secret, came a little-noticed “blueprint to defunding Obamacare,” signed by Mr. Meese and leaders of more than three dozen conservative groups.

It articulated a take-no-prisoners legislative strategy that had long percolated in conservative circles: that Republicans could derail the health care overhaul if conservative lawmakers were willing to push fellow Republicans — including their cautious leaders — into cutting off financing for the entire federal government.

“We felt very strongly at the start of this year that the House needed to use the power of the purse,” said one coalition member, Michael A. Needham, who runs Heritage Action for America, the political arm of the Heritage Foundation. “At least at Heritage Action, we felt very strongly from the start that this was a fight that we were going to pick.”

Last week the country witnessed the fallout from that strategy: a standoff that has shuttered much of the federal bureaucracy and unsettled the nation.
To many Americans, the shutdown came out of nowhere. But interviews with a wide array of conservatives show that the confrontation that precipitated the crisis was the outgrowth of a long-running effort to undo the law, the Affordable Care Act, since its passage in 2010 — waged by a galaxy of conservative groups with more money, organized tactics and interconnections than is commonly known.

With polls showing Americans deeply divided over the law, conservatives believe that the public is behind them. Although the law’s opponents say that shutting down the government was not their objective, the activists anticipated that a shutdown could occur — and worked with members of the Tea Party caucus in Congress who were excited about drawing a red line against a law they despise.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/u...ing.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0&pagewanted=print


I am sure that article prompted this reply from Koch Industries which is not the same thing as the Koch Brothers or David Koch who was personally named in The New York Times article and whose picture appeared together with Meese’s on the front page.

Koch Industries: We Are Not Behind The Government Shutdown
Dylan Scott – October 9, 2013

In a letter to U.S senators dated Wednesday, Koch Industries denied ever advocating for a government shutdown as a way to force the defunding of Obamacare. The letter was in response to comments on the Senate floor Tuesday by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) in which he blamed Koch for the shutdown, which followed a conservative push to pressure Democrats into defunding or delaying Obamacare to keep the government open.

"Koch believes that Obamacare will increase deficits, lead to an overall lowering of the standard of health care in America, and raise taxes," the letter said. "However, Koch has not taken a position on the legislative tactic of tying the continuing resolution to defunding Obamacare nor have we lobbied on legislative provisions defunding Obamacare."

The letter was sent by Philip Ellender, president of government and public affairs for Koch Companies Public Sector, LLC. It was not immediately clear if the letter was sent to all senators.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/koch-we-never-support-defunding-obamacare
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Wow I didn't see that.
 
yeap when the Koch brothers start bailing on the tea tards you know they are about to get CRUSHED by the real big money
 
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