Tea Party in Full Meltdown over "Boehner's Cave"

signalmankenneth

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Oh my goodness, oh my goodness. There is a crisis in the Tea Party! I took a late night scroll around Foxnation, Redstate and Hotair and people, these conservatives are going nuts over what is now affectionately called "Boehner's Cave."

These people were seriously expecting 100 billion in cuts, the defunding of Planned Parenthood, Obamacare and the EPA or a complete shutdown. Now in full disclosure, I contributed just a little to their meltdown with several "well timely" posts like these:

1. "breaking news: the gop caved on planned parenthood, caved on destroying the EPA, and fully funded obamacare. okay? what's next?"
2. "i cannot believe the tea party is rolling over and fully funding obamacare and planned parenthood. dang, we should have thrown in the dream act and cap-n-trade if we knew they would wimp out so easily. oh well...governing is hard."

Okay, okay, I'm sorry--people, it was fun.

Needless to say, the screaming was loud, sustained and furious. Check out the whaling and gnashing of teeth over on Hotair:

1. "The Republicans LOST a warmup game – and lost it big. There is NO reason to believe they’ll show any better in the upcoming fights on the debt ceiling and the 2012 budget. Sorry – if they couldn’t cut $100B as they promised – which is only two weeks worth of deficit out of this budget – they don’t have the nuts to win any bigger fight."
2. "If anyone thinks that the Ryan plan has any chance of seeing the light of day, I want some of what you’re smoking. If you can’t win in this small battle how are you going to win in the bigger war. Major, epic, fail."

3. "$39 B in cuts? If that buys more than 4 days of “business as usual,” it is an incredibly bad deal: so bad, that Boehner MUST GO!!!"

4. "Well, first I heard defunding NPR was a minor battle, the BIG battle was the cuts in the CR! Then I heard the CR was a minor battle, the BIG battle was the budget for the year! Now it’s the Ryan budget? Give me a break…when you practice over and over how to cave, the only thing you are good at is caving." http://hotair.com/...

And then there's the "special people" at Foxnation:

1. "As Speaker of the House, John Boehner is acting like a junior member of congress. Speaker Boehner, haven't you heard the latest news? Obama and George Soros want to push the new Tea Party members out of congress and replace them with radical leftwing members. The tax dollars you just surrendered to Obama's campaign chest last night will help he do just that. Why are you helping Obama elect liberals to replace conservatives???"
2. "Bohner quite the negotiator for the dems He was asked to cut 100 billion and agreed to that, then it became 61 billion. final product 38.5 billion the dems # with funding for planned parenthood still in place, We need change folks." http://nation.foxnews.com/...

And then there's the "friends of CNN" at Redstate:

1. "So they hold a vote about PP funding and Obamacare on the Senate floor and it goes down to defeat, and the GOP claims that it has kept its agreement with the voters. I guess they really do think we’re idiots."
2. "Now they can’t hide from their votes and will have to defend their votes for supporting a baby-killing machine and the fiscal nightmare known as Obamacare." http://www.redstate.com/...

And, check out what election guru Charlie Cook wrote about their plan to end Medicare:

The Cook Report: Death Wish?
"Republicans pushing to revamp Medicare could find themselves voted out of office in the next election." http://nationaljournal.com/...

Simply put, I'm glad 800,000 federally workers didn't receive a work interruption. I'm disappointed that our side gave up 38.5 billion. I'm thrilled that Planned Parenthood, the EPA and Obamacare is intact.

But most of all, I'm absolutely giddy, with totally irrational exuberance and chest-thumping duggies because the teacons have gone completely nuts!!

By joelgp

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I was originally of the opinion that Boehner won in the budget negotiation deal but after the revelations that the cuts actually total about $352 million I changed my mind. In the end, Boehner got played and lost tons of credibility with the right-wing of his party while Obama was able to appear to be making bug cuts without really impacting much.

Boehner's failure is reflected in the vote today where he couldn't get sufficient support from his own party to pass the deal that he personally negotiated and which required significant Democratic votes to pass. The House Democrats now have a seat at the table. If Boehner can't deliver the votes of his caucus, he'll need Democratic support to get shit done. It will be similar to the Senate last Congress where Democrats needed Republicans to join with them to overcome filibusters and thereby gained significant leverage.
 
y'all watch. between the slanderous jibes from the left and the betrayal of promises from the right, the TEA party will rip apart both parties in 12.
 
y'all watch. between the slanderous jibes from the left and the betrayal of promises from the right, the TEA party will rip apart both parties in 12.

Really, how are they going to do that being that they were very ineffective and still seem that way. The majority of the people do not agree with the Tea Bags. They want the rich taxed and they like their social programs, it always comes down to this when they start cutting. People want DEEP cuts until they realize it affects them or their loved ones, then they back the hell off and start the shuck and jive.

We need deep cuts in the military and we need our tax system revised. We have to have more revenue, because too many cuts at this time would send the economy into a tailspin!

Who of the Tea Bags are you looking to to "rip" both houses? Michele Bachmann? Please, say it isn't so!
 
Really, how are they going to do that being that they were very ineffective and still seem that way. The majority of the people do not agree with the Tea Bags. They want the rich taxed and they like their social programs, it always comes down to this when they start cutting. People want DEEP cuts until they realize it affects them or their loved ones, then they back the hell off and start the shuck and jive.
if you wanna cling to bullshit polling questions and results, so be it. being involved in my local teaparty I can tell you in no uncertain terms that resentment is growing and the party size is growing. the TEA party is not all about cutting social programs either. they want ALL government reduced.

We need deep cuts in the military and we need our tax system revised. We have to have more revenue, because too many cuts at this time would send the economy into a tailspin!
you go ahead and get taxes raised. when unemployment goes up, you'll recognize your failure at the election results.

Who of the Tea Bags are you looking to to "rip" both houses? Michele Bachmann? Please, say it isn't so!

as far as I'm concerned, there isn't a single person in congress or the senate right now that was elected by TEA people that are worth a grain of salt. they will be replaced at their next run at election.
 
if you wanna cling to bullshit polling questions and results, so be it. being involved in my local teaparty I can tell you in no uncertain terms that resentment is growing and the party size is growing. the TEA party is not all about cutting social programs either. they want ALL government reduced.

you go ahead and get taxes raised. when unemployment goes up, you'll recognize your failure at the election results.



as far as I'm concerned, there isn't a single person in congress or the senate right now that was elected by TEA people that are worth a grain of salt. they will be replaced at their next run at election.
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who will replace them? and how many newbies do you think there can be in government and have it run effectively? I see the middle people becoming more angered by all the nuts trying to play politics...Palin and Trump come to mind.

Well, they have been saying for years that lower taxes increase business ventures, but we haven't seen it, in fact quite the opposite, so talk about someone falling for the line of BS!
 
Really, how are they going to do that being that they were very ineffective and still seem that way. The majority of the people do not agree with the Tea Bags. They want the rich taxed and they like their social programs, it always comes down to this when they start cutting. People want DEEP cuts until they realize it affects them or their loved ones, then they back the hell off and start the shuck and jive.

We need deep cuts in the military and we need our tax system revised. We have to have more revenue, because too many cuts at this time would send the economy into a tailspin!

Who of the Tea Bags are you looking to to "rip" both houses? Michele Bachmann? Please, say it isn't so!

I saw the proposed budget from the progressive caucus. Tax rates up to 47% among other things. Good luck with that. There is this talk that cutting spending will tank the economy but increasing taxes will somehow help it?
 
who will replace them? and how many newbies do you think there can be in government and have it run effectively?
536 newbies could do a better damn job than the ones we've had in office for 20 years plus.

I see the middle people becoming more angered by all the nuts trying to play politics...Palin and Trump come to mind.
yes, and i'm one of them.

Well, they have been saying for years that lower taxes increase business ventures, but we haven't seen it, in fact quite the opposite, so talk about someone falling for the line of BS!
you're ignoring the forest for the trees. ask topspin for that lesson on business economics. at least that part he knows what he's talking about.
 
I saw the proposed budget from the progressive caucus. Tax rates up to 47% among other things. Good luck with that. There is this talk that cutting spending will tank the economy but increasing taxes will somehow help it?

Yes, as many a millionaire has stated, raising taxes on them a percentage point or two will have no effect on their lifestyles.
 
Boehner got played and lost tons of credibility with the right-wing of his party while Obama was able to appear to be making bug cuts without really impacting much.

Boehner didn't have a whole lot of 'credibility' with the TEA Party going in... I said before the 'negotiations' began, I had ZERO faith that Boehner wouldn't cave, and he didn't disappoint. That said, the TEA Party didn't send Boehner to Washington, he was already there. I can see by the giddy responses here, it's going to take one more good ass whooping at the polls for pinheads to get the message. You people are absolutely living in a delusional denial, clinging to some left-wing polls which indicate to you, just the polar opposite of Americas sentiments at this time... but that's fine! I had rather you buy into the polls and believe your own delusions for now, let it smack you square in the face the day after the 2012 elections... that's perfect for me! I can't fucking wait!!!
 
Really, how are they going to do that being that they were very ineffective and still seem that way. The majority of the people do not agree with the Tea Bags. They want the rich taxed and they like their social programs, it always comes down to this when they start cutting. People want DEEP cuts until they realize it affects them or their loved ones, then they back the hell off and start the shuck and jive.

We need deep cuts in the military and we need our tax system revised. We have to have more revenue, because too many cuts at this time would send the economy into a tailspin!

Who of the Tea Bags are you looking to to "rip" both houses? Michele Bachmann? Please, say it isn't so!

You say the Tea Party hasn't done anything but when was the last both parties had a discussion over cuts?
 
Yes, as many a millionaire has stated, raising taxes on them a percentage point or two will have no effect on their lifestyles.

You're absolutely correct, it won't effect their lifestyles one iota... now, they may have to lay off some employees who work for them... they may have to raise their prices a bit... they may have to cancel their plans to open a new business.... they might not hire as many caterers or servants for their next shindig... Might have to put off trading in the old yacht for a newer model... but their lifestyles won't be effected at all!
 
You're absolutely correct, it won't effect their lifestyles one iota... now, they may have to lay off some employees who work for them... they may have to raise their prices a bit... they may have to cancel their plans to open a new business.... they might not hire as many caterers or servants for their next shindig... Might have to put off trading in the old yacht for a newer model... but their lifestyles won't be effected at all!

Nope, bullshit once again!
 
Yes, as many a millionaire has stated, raising taxes on them a percentage point or two will have no effect on their lifestyles.
And more importantly, a % point or 2 or 5 will have no effect on the spending problem we find ourselves in.....
 
Really, how are they going to do that being that they were very ineffective and still seem that way. The majority of the people do not agree with the Tea Bags. They want the rich taxed and they like their social programs, it always comes down to this when they start cutting. People want DEEP cuts until they realize it affects them or their loved ones, then they back the hell off and start the shuck and jive.

We need deep cuts in the military and we need our tax system revised. We have to have more revenue, because too many cuts at this time would send the economy into a tailspin!

Who of the Tea Bags are you looking to to "rip" both houses? Michele Bachmann? Please, say it isn't so!

YOU'RE EVIL!!!!!
 
You're absolutely correct, it won't effect their lifestyles one iota... now, they may have to lay off some employees who work for them... they may have to raise their prices a bit... they may have to cancel their plans to open a new business.... they might not hire as many caterers or servants for their next shindig... Might have to put off trading in the old yacht for a newer model... but their lifestyles won't be effected at all!

dream on....they had a higher tax rate under billy and they spent the same if not more....
 
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