Tax bill passed and headed for the president’s desk

countryboy said:
Actually, when federal taxes are cut, revenue DOESN'T stay the same. It goes up. No voodoo economics required.

Look at this chart, and show us a single instance where a federal tax cut has "cost the government money".

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/federal-receipt-and-outlay-summary
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And once again, your table is too simplistic, doesn't account for an array of contributing variables

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...tax-cuts-real/

http://www.econdataus.com/taxcuts.html

I don't know why I bother, can almost guarantee that ten minutes the same table or graph will be regurgitated once again
 
countryboy said:
This is willful ignorance on your part. Look the shit up, choose any source you like.
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If you make a claim you should be able to provide documentation to prove you are correct, otherwise, you could be modeling the President and just fabricating data
 
CFM said:
I bet those that claim it won't work will still vote for Democrats.

Wonder how many that oppose the bill will voluntarily send the greater amount they get back to the federal government.
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You know they won’t. GayRod already said he is pocketing it and won’t help his staff. He thinks they are overpaid. Wonder if they think that
 
countryboy said:
Too simplistic? It's the fucking data. Get real. Show us where a federal tax cut has resulted in decreased revenue. G'head.
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Thought so, read the proof that negates the conclusion you are implying from your table, but just like a good conservative you'll continue to just believe what you want to regardless of facts, exact reason the demogogues are millionaires
 
Teflon Don said:
You know they won’t. GayRod already said he is pocketing it and won’t help his staff. He thinks they are overpaid. Wonder if they think that
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And if they did what would that prove? Demagogue rhetoric

When the average Joe sees this April the peanuts he got in the "greatest tax cut in American History" while knowing the top made out like bandits the reality will sink in, as I said, a gift for the Democrats
 
archives said:
And if they did what would that prove? Demagogue rhetoric

When the average Joe sees this April the peanuts he got in the "greatest tax cut in American History" while knowing the top made out like bandits the reality will sink in, as I said, a gift for the Democrats
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Gotta love the rhetoric "made out like a bandit" because we make companies more competitive globally and people keep more of the money they make.

It's like the economy is a zero sum game and the government controls all of it
 
archives said:
Nah, the minimum amount anyone other than the top gets cut won't make any difference, come next April when the average Joe sees his piece of the "biggest tax cut in history" is peanuts the realiy will sink in, as I noted, a gift for the Democrats
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In April we'll be paying the last year of Obama's craptacular taxation. It will be the fact that every one of the people on this board will have more money to spend next year due to lower withholding that will make the difference in their minds.
 
archives said:
And if they did what would that prove? Demagogue rhetoric

When the average Joe sees this April the peanuts he got in the "greatest tax cut in American History" while knowing the top made out like bandits the reality will sink in, as I said, a gift for the Democrats
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LOL. Inane. As we watched Burger King leave for saner taxation levels the left continued to scream that the "rich" were not "paying their fair share" but still insisted that we give subsidies to poor policy in high-taxed states so the rich would not have to pay their fair share...

In this case, the leftists got what they wanted, the only people "hurt" by this tax bill are those rich folks who live in high tax states. I shed no tears for granting their wish to make the "rich" pay their fair share. It's going to be nice to know that Nancy Pelosi and Bernie Sanders will pay some of their "fair share" for once while at the same time I get to keep a bit more of my money.
 
cawacko said:
Gotta love the rhetoric "made out like a bandit" because we make companies more competitive globally and people keep more of the money they make.

It's like the economy is a zero sum game and the government controls all of it
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Companies keep the money they make now, having been doing it for eight years now, and yeah, some will get a few bucks more, but " the greatest tax cut in history" should be more than the peanuts they'll receive, it won't take long before reality sinks in, and as I said, a gift for the Democrats
 
Damocles said:
LOL. Inane. As we watched Burger King leave for saner taxation levels the left continued to scream that the "rich" were not "paying their fair share" but still insisted that we give subsidies to poor policy in high-taxed states so the rich would not have to pay their fair share...

In this case, the leftists got what they wanted, the only people "hurt" by this tax bill are those rich folks who live in high tax states. I shed no tears for granting their wish to make the "rich" pay their fair share. It's going to be nice to know that Nancy Pelosi and Bernie Sanders will pay some of their "fair share" for once while at the same time I get to keep a bit more of my money.
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Yeah, those living on the upper East side of Manhattan are really going to shed a tear, and just to keep you informed, those people living in blue states already support the red states

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/
 
archives said:
Companies keep the money they make now, having been doing it for eight years now, and yeah, some will get a few bucks more, but " the greatest tax cut in history" should be more than the peanuts they'll receive, it won't take long before reality sinks in, and as I said, a gift for the Democrats
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So is it a trillion dollar give away to business or just peanuts?
 
cawacko said:
They're going to be paying more in taxes and the value of their real estate will drop
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Bingo. Look at home "values" on the border of New York and New Jersey. Jersey has low RE taxes relative to NY, so the prices of homes is higher in Jersey. If you calculate the monthly payments, PITI, they are about the same.
 
cawacko said:
They're going to be paying more in taxes and the value of their real estate will drop
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So your saying they are going leave and move to Salina, Kansas?

Those people have an army of accountants and lawyers, they'll come out profiting off of this blunder, just like the President will although he lives further down 5th Avenue
 
archives said:
So your saying they are going leave and move to Salina, Kansas?

Those people have an army of accountants and lawyers, they'll come out profiting off of this blunder, just like the President will although he lives further down 5th Avenue
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Lol, nice strawman. Not real familiar with how the real estate market and deductions work are you? Same thing happening in Cali
 
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