Sure, he'll riase your debt limit ...for a BBA?

[NOVA]

(Excerpt from article)...if Congress ultimately rejects an increase in the debt limit, it would trigger a crisis that makes that 2008 meltdown look tame. Geithner reiterated warnings that such a vote would force the government to halt benefits payments to seniors and veterans and would risk the government defaulting on its interest. (End)

Two years into the Repub presidency (2003) they claimed they had enough money to choose war as an option. They claimed there was plenty of money to give the rich a tax break. Now, two years after an eight year bumbling, stumbling rule their ineptitude has resulted in threatening to hang the seniors and veterans out to dry.

For the love of God keep those incompetent, war-mongering, right-wing buffoons away from the White House.

Its odd that not increasing the debt limit always adversely affects seniors and vets, starves the children, or makes people homeless.....

Its never affects the retirement payments to legislators, or a Senators paycheck, or stops their free car rentals and insurance, or closes their cafeteria or free gym and racketball courts....it never restricts their taxpayer paid travel all over the world, ....all it affects is benefits to seniors and vets.....fuckin' amazing ain't it....

And more astounding is that pinheads believe it repeat it as gospel truth playing their roll perfectly, as the Dim. parrots they are...

 

[NOVA]

Dixie, Dixie, Dixie. Every country (NO EXCEPTION) that has government medical pays 1/3 to 1/2 less than the US. The vast majority of citizens in every country (NO EXCEPTION) that has government medical insist on keeping it.

Every graph, every table, every poll tells the same thing. Government medical is superior to a "pay or suffer" system and ObamaCare is the first step on that journey.

Speaking of Dim Dem parrots....I think I hear one now......

 

[DamnYankee]

Obamacare raises revenues ....

How?

 

[Bonestorm]

How?

Taxes.

 

[DamnYankee]

Taxes.

Big surprise there. But raising the tax rate can only slow the economy further, and chase more business away to overseas, further increasing unemployment. A double-whammy.

 

[Bonestorm]

Whatever.

 

[DamnYankee]

Big surprise there. Continue to pull the "D" lever every two years, regardless of the obvious...

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Whatever.

Yeah, that's always the answer we end up getting from Liberals when things don't pan out as they anticipated. You morons don't think past the head of your dicks on anything. Everything is a statistic, proven by some graph or chart, devised by some other pinhead who is full of speculation and conjecture. Everything is based on a static condition, where nothing changes, and nothing effects a change, and there are never any consequences. This might be alright if things were that way in the real world, but they're not. Actions have consequences, whether you intend them or not.

 

[Canceled2]

Yeah, that's always the answer we end up getting from Liberals when things don't pan out as they anticipated. You morons don't think past the head of your dicks on anything. Everything is a statistic, proven by some graph or chart, devised by some other pinhead who is full of speculation and conjecture. Everything is based on a static condition, where nothing changes, and nothing effects a change, and there are never any consequences. This might be alright if things were that way in the real world, but they're not. Actions have consequences, whether you intend them or not.

Think "Global Warming Computer Models"....

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Dixie, Dixie, Dixie. Every country (NO EXCEPTION) that has government medical pays 1/3 to 1/2 less than the US. The vast majority of citizens in every country (NO EXCEPTION) that has government medical insist on keeping it.

And every country (NO EXCEPTION) is NOT the US, doesn't have 300 million people, doesn't have a Constitution which protects fundamental rights, and is not $13 trillion in debt and on the verge of default. As for keeping it, we've had that conversation before as well, and you can't tell me what the alternative to keeping such a system would be, because there isn't an alternative, once you've destroyed the private system. It doesn't matter how much people may hate the government system, it's better than nothing at all, which is what they would have if they voted to get rid of the government teat. Now you can sit here and tell lies and pretend it wouldn't be like that, but you haven't offered any evidence to support that notion. Common sense should tell you, if you destroy the private capitalist system, it's not going to Jamaica on hiatus to wait for a comeback tour! Once it is destroyed, there is no other alternative, that is why you don't see countries switching back. (NO EXCEPTION!)

Every graph, every table, every poll tells the same thing. Government medical is superior to a "pay or suffer" system and ObamaCare is the first step on that journey.

This is because every graph, every table, every poll, is devised and designed by people with an agenda to socialize health care. Obamacare is the first step in burying liberalism forever in America. It will be repealed, and then we will hang the corpse around your neck like an albatross and trot you out every 4 years to show the public what kind of idiots can get elected to power, if we're not paying attention and being diligent in our political voice of dissent.

 

[Rationalist]

I don't know, maybe you don't comprehend this, but there is no "meet in the middle" on the issue of balancing the federal budget. We either DO balance it, or we DON'T balance it... there is no "in between" area where a 'compromise' can be made. Now, the TEA Party might not get to cut all the things they want to cut, they may have to cut some things they didn't want to cut... but the issue of balancing the budget is not something that is negotiable. And this is going to get done, in fact, if DeMint has his way, a balanced budget amendment will be passed before the debt ceiling is raised.

A balanced budget will be achieved through a combination of cuts, tax increases, and economic growth. We need to cut spending by 15%, raise taxes on the super wealthy (trust me, they won't feel a thing), and get rid of useless/harmful business regulations. That is how it will be done. NOT by cutting nearly $2 trillion in spending, which would gut the military and break our promise to the elderly.

 

[apple0154]

Its odd that not increasing the debt limit always adversely affects seniors and vets, starves the children, or makes people homeless.....

Its never affects the retirement payments to legislators, or a Senators paycheck, or stops their free car rentals and insurance, or closes their cafeteria or free gym and racketball courts....it never restricts their taxpayer paid travel all over the world, ....all it affects is benefits to seniors and vets.....fuckin' amazing ain't it....

And more astounding is that pinheads believe it repeat it as gospel truth playing their roll perfectly, as the Dim. parrots they are...

It's repeated because it never does affect "the retirement payments to legislators, or a Senators paycheck, or stops their free car rentals and insurance, or closes their cafeteria or free gym and racketball courts....it never restricts their taxpayer paid travel all over the world, ....all it affects is benefits to seniors and vets.....fuckin' amazing ain't it..."

That's the point!

 

[apple0154]

Speaking of Dim Dem parrots....I think I hear one now......

Listening to Fox, are you?

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

A balanced budget will be achieved through a combination of cuts, tax increases, and economic growth. We need to cut spending by 15%, raise taxes on the super wealthy (trust me, they won't feel a thing), and get rid of useless/harmful business regulations. That is how it will be done. NOT by cutting nearly $2 trillion in spending, which would gut the military and break our promise to the elderly.

A balanced budget will be achieved through an amendment to the constitution which requires our politicians to find ways to live within our means. That's the part you really do need to understand here... it isn't going to ever get done otherwise. I'll throw Republicans under the bus on this as well, as long as things are done as they currently are being done, BOTH parties will continue to over-spend and give us deficits. The ONLY way to FIX that condition, is to ratify a constitutional amendment, forcing them to not spend more than we take in. Now.... what that will ultimately mean, whether it's cutting spending, raising taxes, or whatever.... that's a different matter. The solution to the deficit problem is to outlaw them, not allow them, and put that in the U.S. Constitution!

 

[apple0154]

And every country (NO EXCEPTION) is NOT the US, doesn't have 300 million people, doesn't have a Constitution which protects fundamental rights, and is not $13 trillion in debt and on the verge of default. As for keeping it, we've had that conversation before as well, and you can't tell me what the alternative to keeping such a system would be, because there isn't an alternative, once you've destroyed the private system. It doesn't matter how much people may hate the government system, it's better than nothing at all, which is what they would have if they voted to get rid of the government teat. Now you can sit here and tell lies and pretend it wouldn't be like that, but you haven't offered any evidence to support that notion. Common sense should tell you, if you destroy the private capitalist system, it's not going to Jamaica on hiatus to wait for a comeback tour! Once it is destroyed, there is no other alternative, that is why you don't see countries switching back. (NO EXCEPTION!)

That is utter bulll$hit! Canada has a government system and doctors and other health professionals are doing their damnest to open private health care facilities and the government, the people, are making sure the government system will not be affected. A few years ago one member of the current minority Conservative government merely suggested looking at a duel system and the opposition said they'd throw the government out if it so much as considered such an idea.

As you can see there is no shortage of greedy vultures waiting to make money off the sick and dying in Canada just as there are in the US.

By the way the Cons brought down a budget and the opposition has kicked their ass into an election, again, next month. Originally winning a minority government in the 2004 election the opposition called an election in 2006. The Cons, once again winning a minority government, were challenged by the opposition to an election in 2008. Now it's 2011 and guess what? The opposition has called another election because those naughty Cons won't behave themselves. By the way, the typical term is 4 years up to a maximum of 5. As one can see the Cons just don't make the grade.

Yes, it's all about budgets. Fortunately, the Canadian people can demand an election before the government implements policies cutting social services.

Kick the bums out, I say!

 

[Rationalist]

A balanced budget will be achieved through an amendment to the constitution which requires our politicians to find ways to live within our means. That's the part you really do need to understand here... it isn't going to ever get done otherwise. I'll throw Republicans under the bus on this as well, as long as things are done as they currently are being done, BOTH parties will continue to over-spend and give us deficits. The ONLY way to FIX that condition, is to ratify a constitutional amendment, forcing them to not spend more than we take in. Now.... what that will ultimately mean, whether it's cutting spending, raising taxes, or whatever.... that's a different matter. The solution to the deficit problem is to outlaw them, not allow them, and put that in the U.S. Constitution!

We are in agreement on that.

 

[Topspin]

everybody who gets a handout likes the handout, OMG what a revelation.

Somebody compare other countries to the US average Dr income of $250,000.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

That is utter bulll$hit! Canada has a government system and doctors and other health professionals are doing their damnest to open private health care facilities and the government, the people, are making sure the government system will not be affected. A few years ago one member of the current minority Conservative government merely suggested looking at a duel system and the opposition said they'd throw the government out if it so much as considered such an idea.

As you can see there is no shortage of greedy vultures waiting to make money off the sick and dying in Canada just as there are in the US.

By the way the Cons brought down a budget and the opposition has kicked their ass into an election, again, next month. Originally winning a minority government in the 2004 election the opposition called an election in 2006. The Cons, once again winning a minority government, were challenged by the opposition to an election in 2008. Now it's 2011 and guess what? The opposition has called another election because those naughty Cons won't behave themselves. By the way, the typical term is 4 years up to a maximum of 5. As one can see the Cons just don't make the grade.

Yes, it's all about budgets. Fortunately, the Canadian people can demand an election before the government implements policies cutting social services.

Kick the bums out, I say!

I thought everyone who had government health care just LOVED it, Apple? Seems to me, if people are trying to implement a private system again, maybe they don't LOVE the government-run system as much as you claimed?

The truth of the matter is, people are flocking to America for health care, because the Canadian system sucks so bad. The Canadians are even having to implement capitalist measures to shore up the failing system. The recent story about a young boy who they wouldn't even allow to have a tracheotomy, his parents had to bring him to America to save his life..... with YOUR idea of Nationalized Health Care, people literally ARE dying in the streets!

 

[Liberty]

A balanced budget will be achieved through a combination of cuts, tax increases, and economic growth. We need to cut spending by 15%, raise taxes on the super wealthy (trust me, they won't feel a thing), and get rid of useless/harmful business regulations. That is how it will be done. NOT by cutting nearly $2 trillion in spending, which would gut the military and break our promise to the elderly.

Raising taxes is a death nail. You have to cut, but that won't happen quick enough. Get ready to realize just how criminal the dems & reps are. This isn't going to be pretty.

 

[apple0154]

I thought everyone who had government health care just LOVED it, Apple? Seems to me, if people are trying to implement a private system again, maybe they don't LOVE the government-run system as much as you claimed?

Of course there's people unhappy with the system. Just like people who curse the traffic going home from work every day. Why should they have to wait in traffic? There's always those who think they're special. I'm sure you know the type. They believe they struggled and sacrificed and worked harder than anyone else and, damn-it, they deserve better treatment and if thousands who can't afford medical care have to die, so be it.

Here's an example of what some folks are like. Because it is mandatory for the government to provide health care one man living in a rural area of Quebec complained about the local small town not being able to provide radiation therapy for cancer. (The machine costs in excess of two million dollars.) The closest center was a 45 minute drive so the man sued the government claiming gas expense.

Needless to say the case was thrown out of court. Whether private or government it is not feasible for every small town to have such equipment just as small towns don't have heart surgeons and transplant specialists but there's always someone who thinks they're special.

The truth of the matter is, people are flocking to America for health care, because the Canadian system sucks so bad. The Canadians are even having to implement capitalist measures to shore up the failing system. The recent story about a young boy who they wouldn't even allow to have a tracheotomy, his parents had to bring him to America to save his life..... with YOUR idea of Nationalized Health Care, people literally ARE dying in the streets!

I wish you'd post a link and talking about links here's one for your perusal.
http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes....-lack-of-insurance-to-45000-us-deaths-a-year/

(Excerpt) Researchers from Harvard Medical School say the lack of coverage can be tied to about 45,000 deaths a year in the United States.....The Harvard study found that people without health insurance had a 40 percent higher risk of death than those with private health insurance — as a result of being unable to obtain necessary medical care....The increase in risk, according to the study, is likely to be a result of at least two factors. One is the greater difficulty the uninsured have today in finding care, as public hospitals have closed or cut back on services. The other is improvements in medical care for insured people with treatable chronic conditions like high blood pressure. (End)

Imagine people dying from high blood pressure when one of the medications available costs 50 cents a day. If only they knew they required that medication but they didn't have any symptoms and didn't see any reason in spending two hundred dollars for a check-up when they were struggling to raise their family.

Stop listening to all the negative nonsense about government medical and do some serious research. Medical care in countries with government plans cost much less and the people live as long or longer than in the US. Lower cost and greater longevity. Those are two verified facts as you'd see if you did any type of research. The rest are just petty differences.