As far as I know gluttony is a sin for all Christians. Pedophilia is a crime.
Supreme Court Ruling, 7 to 2 decision for the Colorado Baker.
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USFREEDOM911
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He's also said he won't make cakes promoting Halloween or Witches.
Are Wiccan's now going to demonstrate outside of his bakery, arm in arm with pedophiles?
What is a sin for all Christians is irrelevant. Freedom of religion allows each person to craft his own set of beliefs even if nobody else shares those beliefs. The religious beliefs of Mr. Phillips are not dictated by what other Christians believe.
Maybe the two gay gays wanting to marry were both obese.
Open a bakery and refuse to sell cakes to fat people, then. That has nothing to do with this case.
I have pictures.
You may have pictures of some fat woman but that woman would not be me, no matter how much you want it to be.
How much do you estimate the fat woman in your picture weighs?
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I believe they made it very clear it was intended for their wedding and that it was a gay wedding.
I doubt he would have made it, even for a gift; but I doubt that an obese person is going to walk in, ask to have a cake MADE especially for them and declaring that they were going to consume it all by them self.
Exactly the same as you do, or maybe a few pounds,more, depending on what you've consumed lately.
Phillips said in his defense that he would sell “birthday cakes, shower cakes, [and] cookies and brown-ies,” App. 152, to gay and lesbian customers." Does a shower not indicate a wedding is in the offing? And is Phillips good with a gay couple having themselves a baby shower?
Not necessarily. People adopt children all the time; if I'm not mistaken, most of them are already married.
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If it's premade, then it's up for sale.
One more time, for the cognitive impaired:
There is a difference between BAKING a cake and MAKING a cake.
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Not necessarily in todays society.
They do have baby showers and it sometimes has nothing to do with a wedding.
Exactly the same as you do, or maybe a few pounds,more, depending on what you've consumed lately.
There may be some planet in the galaxy where I would be considered obese but that is not planet Earth.
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He never said or implied that baking a cake would bring God's wrath down on him.
You don't get to make that choice for other people.
Have you expressed this viewpoint to any devout orthodox Muslims or fundamentalist Jews, many (if not most) of whom also regard homosexuality as a repugnant sin punishable by death?
Gotcha68
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What other religious reason would cause someone to refuse to fulfill their business obligations based on something arbitrary like the sex of the customer?
The extent of your obesity might depend on the relative force of gravity on said unidentified planet.
Gotcha68
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At every opportunity. Believing in hateful gods who cause followers to discriminate and hate based on something one can't change needs to be kicked in the bud until such things don't exist. Gotta be proactive.
Homosexuality is a repugnant practice according to the teachings of all three of the world's largest monotheistic religions.
Mullins and Craig were planning their wedding in Massachusetts in 2012 and wanted the cake for a reception in Colorado, where gay marriage was not yet legal. During a brief encounter at Phillips' Masterpiece Cakeshop in the Denver suburb of Lakewood, the baker politely but firmly refused, leaving the couple distraught.
Phillips' lawyers said his cakes are an art form - a "temporary sculpture" - and being forced to create one to commemorate a gay wedding would violate his constitutional rights to free speech and expression and free exercise of religion. Phillips and others like him who believe that gay marriage is not consistent with their Christian beliefs have said they should not be required to effectively endorse the practice.
They filed a successful complaint with the state commission, the first step in the six-year-old legal battle. State courts sided with the couple, prompting Phillips to appeal to the top U.S. court.
The case's outcome hinged on the actions of the Colorado commission. In one exchange at a 2014 hearing cited by Kennedy, former commissioner Diann Rice said that "freedom of religion, and religion, has been used to justify all kinds of discrimination throughout history, whether it be slavery, whether it be the Holocaust."
Justice Kennedy noted that the commission had ruled the opposite way in three cases brought against bakers in which the business owners refused to bake cakes containing messages that demeaned gay people or same-sex marriage.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/04/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-colorado-baker-who-refused-to-make-wedding-cake-for-gay-couple-for-religious-reasons.html