Supreme Court rules businesses can refuse service to LGBTQ+ customers

[Into the Night]

You think they're done? You can't see what they're doing? It's what they were designed to do. The Federalist Society's plan is not a secret. You're willing -- giddy even -- to watch other people lose their rights. You'll be singing a different song when they come for you.

Sexual perversion is not a right.

 

[Into the Night]

Sigh. You're dumber than dog shit. It's not about the NYT. It's about you being a lazy liar and not understanding the subjects you think you have an opinion about.

It is about the NYT. YOU posted a link to it. It's behind a paywall. He's not going to support the NYT. I don't blame him. I don't either. The NYT is just Democrat propaganda. It long ago ceased to be anything like a news organization.

It's just Pravda.

 

[Flash]

WRONG! Whether a decision is right or wrong depends on whether the decision conforms with the Constitution or not, and whether the decision is just or not.

And whether it conforms to the Constitution depends on the views of a majority of the SC.

 

[Flash]

This is two questions:
1) There is no phrase 'free speech' in the Constitution of the United States.
2) It isn't.

1) Prohibiting abridging the "freedom of speech" has the same meaning as "free speech." If speech includes creative artistic expression that is an interpretation of "free speech" since the Constitution does not specifically state that.

2) If nothing in the Constitution allows affirmative action to used in military academies then your claim that the recent set of decisions were correct appear to be incorrect since the AA case exempted the military academies.

 

[Flash]

RQAA. Stop mindlessly repeating questions that have already been answered.

Then quit contradicting yourself.

 

[QP!]

That's all just your flaming, uninformed, extremist left-wing partisan opinion.

While I don't agree with some of their rulings, particularly on abortion, it's clear that they haven't proven themselves to be the extremist far right ideologue puppets it was feared they'd be.

The recent North Carolina voting rights case where conservative justices sided with the liberals on denying state's ability to control elections threw a big monkey wrench into the plans of Trump's red state ass-kissers.

There were a couple of other instances where Roberts and Kavanaugh crossed over and handed down opinions that sided with Kagen, Sotomayor and Jackson.

But telling colleges they can no longer use race as a biased determining factor, and the Gay Gestapo Mafia that they can't force people to create products that express agreement with their lifestyle, is hardly attacking anyone or dismantling civil rights progress or any of the other breathless, hyperbolic nonsense you panted about.

You are obviously a mindless simpleton who hears your own prejudiced beliefs mirrored by partisan news outlets, then parrots their words because you can't think for yourself.

You're no better or different in essence, than a rabid Trump cultist.

Opposite side of the same coin.

To be clear, the Independent Legislature case, if the SC was to give the Federalist Society their wet dream, would also have stripped the SC of all future power over the process.

So the Federalist Society was asking the SC to do something which is the opposite of what they have been doing lately which is consolidating massive power to the Court over Congress and the Executive Branch, and they were not simply going to give that up to State Legislatures, and rule "No Court, including the State or Federal Supreme Court can intervene if they see things they think threaten their power'.

So i would not applaud the SC as any protector of democracy on that one.

 

[QP!]

1) Prohibiting abridging the "freedom of speech" has the same meaning as "free speech." If speech includes creative artistic expression that is an interpretation of "free speech" since the Constitution does not specifically state that.

2) If nothing in the Constitution allows affirmative action to used in military academies then your claim that the recent set of decisions were correct appear to be incorrect since the AA case exempted the military academies.

The SC recognizes that PoC are the main recruits of the military and necessary recruits to fight our wars and they don't want white middle class and upper class kids having to fill that role and never have.

So suddenly they can see a reason why 'targeting by race' to make sure the ranks are filled is a fine thing to do. We need that "diversity" in the military.

They just think diversity is not needed in University and ergo in corporate senior positions. They want to slow the gains PoC and women have been making in those areas, to extend the advantage time white men have enjoyed since the countries inception.

Almost all of these rulings are targeted at that. MAGA folk hate that America is changing as PoC and Women get more and more of a voice and a seat at the table and so too does SCOTUS. They just are taking different paths to try and slow the progress. To maintain the advantages.

 

[QP!]

How many times in your life have you told a minority to their face that they don't experience discrimination after they just told you that they experience discrimination? Honestly. How did that go?

That's the problem with you dying crackers. You're not content to just hate us, call us names, and actively work to deny us our civil rights, but you won't even let us have our own emotions. What kind of shriveled up, privileged motherfucker tells a stranger that they perceive their own life wrong? You are literally a shit person.

And just as I expected, you're also a seething racist. Didn't you used to parade around here like you were liberal or leaned liberal? You're nothing but a cranky, racist, homophobic, wrinkly asshole who is bitter that the world left you behind. You're a conservative and a hateful bitch.

For the record, all criminals deserve to face the full consequences of the law, buy no criminals are "niggers". I don't have to make that distinction because I don't use the word unless I'm talking to someone like you. We all know why you use it.

take solace that these are the flailings rantings of a dying cohort in their last stand.

Trump has given them one last voice to proudly proclaim their most racist hateful selves they felt they had to bottle up for decades prior. And they are seizing that opportunity.

But the generations behind them are increasingly more tolerant and liberal and their hate is dying. So let them stew in their hate and bile as it is all many of them have left.

 

[Nomad]

How many times in your life have you told a minority to their face that they don't experience discrimination after they just told you that they experience discrimination? Honestly. How did that go?

Never.

Why would I?

I don't get into conversations with minorities about such subjects.

How many times have you told a white guy to his face that he discriminates against minorities and all their problems are his fault?

That's the problem with you dying crackers. You're not content to just hate us, call us names, and actively work to deny us our civil rights, but you won't even let us have our own emotions. What kind of shriveled up, privileged motherfucker tells a stranger that they perceive their own life wrong? You are literally a shit person.

Pot, kettle, black.... ass lover.

And at least us "dying crackers" aren't dying because we're constantly murdering each other with stolen guns.

At least us "dying crackers" can go to a holiday block party or family reunion or walk through our white neighborhood and not have to flee for our lives when the bullets start flying.

And just as I expected, you're also a seething racist.

Too funny!!!

The stupid ghetto-acting, wannabe gangsta thug who's practically shitting his baggy pants yammering about race and skin color while calling me a cracker, calls me a "seething racist".

That's OK. Everyone knew it was just a matter of time before you started in with that tired old simple minded shit.

Didn't you used to parade around here like you were liberal or leaned liberal? You're nothing but a cranky, racist, homophobic, wrinkly asshole who is bitter that the world left you behind. You're a conservative and a hateful bitch.

I never paraded around anywhere as anything.

I signed up here in December 2016, just after Trump was elected. I saw him as the biggest threat to American democracy in the history of our country. Almost all the conversation back then and up until fairly recently was about Trump and things Trump related. Since I always sided with the anti-Trump left, I guess it might've given people the idea I was more liberal than I am. But either way, I still lean to the left.

Your problem, and the problem with all other stupid, simple-minded extremist partisan idiots like you, is that as far as your limited thought process is concerned, there is no moderation or nuanced position on things. Especially race and gender, which are the two things you people are obsessed to the point of insanity with.

But that's fine. I enjoy any opportunity I can get to bitch slap your dumb ape looking faces with the glove of reality and common sense.

For the record, all criminals deserve to face the full consequences of the law, buy no criminals are "niggers". I don't have to make that distinction because I don't use the word unless I'm talking to someone like you. We all know why you use it.

Bullshit. You want BLACK criminals to be treated with kid gloves.

You want to force the police to ask them politely to surrender their weapons and comply with their lawful commands.

If the BLACK criminals refuse, you want the police to back off and let them go free to commit more crimes.

If the BLACK criminals shoot and kill cops during the process, too bad. They were cops. They should have expected it.

If a BLACK criminal fights with the cops, resists arrest, causing them to escalate their use of force, and in the process accidentally dies, you want the cop convicted of murder and sent to prison for life if not executed.

Fucking liar.

 

[Diesel]

take solace that these are the flailings rantings of a dying cohort in their last stand.

Trump has given them one last voice to proudly proclaim their most racist hateful selves they felt they had to bottle up for decades prior. And they are seizing that opportunity.

But the generations behind them are increasingly more tolerant and liberal and their hate is dying. So let them stew in their hate and bile as it is all many of them have left.

That goes without saying. These people were always evil, but the PC culture kept them in their closets. Then Trump showed up and told them they could be total pieces of shit in public. They're not going to win this war.

 

[Diesel]

Never.

Why would I?

I don't get into conversations with minorities about such subjects.

How many times have you told a white guy to his face that he discriminates against minorities and all their problems are his fault?



Pot, kettle, black.... ass lover.

And at least us "dying crackers" aren't dying because we're constantly murdering each other with stolen guns.

At least us "dying crackers" can go to a holiday block party or family reunion or walk through our white neighborhood and not have to flee for our lives when the bullets start flying.



Too funny!!!

The stupid ghetto-acting, wannabe gangsta thug who's practically shitting his baggy pants yammering about race and skin color while calling me a cracker, calls me a "seething racist".

That's OK. Everyone knew it was just a matter of time before you started in with that tired old simple minded shit.



I never paraded around anywhere as anything.

I signed up here in December 2016, just after Trump was elected. I saw him as the biggest threat to American democracy in the history of our country. Almost all the conversation back then and up until fairly recently was about Trump and things Trump related. Since I always sided with the anti-Trump left, I guess it might've given people the idea I was more liberal than I am. But either way, I still lean to the left.

Your problem, and the problem with all other stupid, simple-minded extremist partisan idiots like you, is that as far as your limited thought process is concerned, there is no moderation or nuanced position on things. Especially race and gender, which are the two things you people are obsessed to the point of insanity with.

But that's fine. I enjoy any opportunity I can get to bitch slap your dumb ape looking faces with the glove of reality and common sense.



Bullshit. You want BLACK criminals to be treated with kid gloves.

You want to force the police to ask them politely to surrender their weapons and comply with their lawful commands.

If the BLACK criminals refuse, you want the police to back off and let them go free to commit more crimes.

If the BLACK criminals shoot and kill cops during the process, too bad. They were cops. They should have expected it.

If a BLACK criminal fights with the cops, resists arrest, causing them to escalate their use of force, and in the process accidentally dies, you want the cop convicted of murder and sent to prison for life if not executed.

Fucking liar.

So you're just mouthing off on an anonymous internet forum but don't have the balls to be yourself in person. Probably wise. You would get your ass beat.

I don't tell random people I don't know what they are or what they think. You're the one -- from your white privilege throne -- who wants to tell minorities that they don't experience discrimination.

I have never called you a cracker before today when you proudly, loudly, obnoxiously proclaimed yourself a homophobe and a racist.

I don't know if you've started partaking, but this might be the first post from you that is completely ridiculous from beginning to end. Attributing racism to a stranger is not analogous to telling a minority that they don't know what they experience or aren't allowed to feel about it the way they do. All your racist shit about Black block parties and stolen guns is not worth my time. You also forgot what the pronoun "you" means. A completely incoherent unhinged rant with asinine assumptions that paint you as completely insane. You may as well be Hawkeye's sock.

Lastly, I'm not a partisan. You think I don't understand moderation and nuance related to gender and race? Fuck you. I'm a non-white, non-straight person being preached at by an ancient, ignorant enemy of civil rights. Tell us more about our genders and our sex lives and claim again that you're the reasonable, moderate one. I dare you. I'll laugh your bigoted ass out of the forum.

 

[LurchAddams]

Hindsight is a miracle. No one thought Trump could win. Given the indescribable fuckery that Trump unleashed on the world, I would take 10 Hillary terms. But she was a product of a broken political system. She didn't give us Trump. The DNC did.

Well, whoever was responsible for the final nomination - there were only two legitimate choices in the general.

The Bernie Bros/anti-Hildebeast fucknuts who voted for Bernie, voted 3rd party, didn't vote at all, or <gasp> actually voted for trump are responsible for trump, IMO. Like I said, Hillary wasn't my first choice, but I knew she had the best chance of beating trump, so I held my nose. And who knows? She might have been ok.

Now having said all that, I don't think anyone predicted what a disaster trump was going to be in 2016, I just knew he was the shittier of the two shitty choices. I was thinking about SCOTUS.

The Bernie Bros can take their righteous indignation and eat shit. Fuck Ruth B.G. for not retiring during Obama's term as well and RIP.

 

[Diesel]

Well, whoever was responsible for the final nomination - there were only two legitimate choices in the general.

The Bernie Bros/anti-Hildebeast fucknuts who voted for Bernie, voted 3rd party, didn't vote at all, or <gasp> actually voted for trump are responsible for trump, IMO. Like I said, Hillary wasn't my first choice, but I knew she had the best chance of beating trump, so I held my nose. And who knows? She might have been ok.

Now having said all that, I don't think anyone predicted what a disaster trump was going to be in 2016, I just knew he was the shittier of the two shitty choices. because of SCOTUS.

The Bernie Bros can take their righteous indignation and eat shit.

She would have been fine. Maybe even boring. We now know that electing Trump was the worst mistake that Americans made in our lifetimes. I hope we learned some lessons, but at the end of the day, the American public suffered and the political parties didn't face a single consequence.

 

[LurchAddams]

She would have been fine. Maybe even boring. We now know that electing Trump was the worst mistake that Americans made in our lifetimes. I hope we learned some lessons, but at the end of the day, the American public suffered and the political parties didn't face a single consequence.

Well, the Dems did do ok in 2020, except for the Senate and they got the Senate back and prevented a House supermajority in 2022. We also won back a bunch of governorships and flipped at least a couple of state SCOTUSes in 2022. So they redeemed themselves slightly, but the damage had been done with the US SCOTUS - which America and by extension, the world, will be paying for for at least a generation. The best we can hope for is a Senate supermajority in the future (not likely) so the sucky SCOTUS justices can be impeached. Expanding the number of justices would work in the short term, but if we get another trump or worse in the future, it'll be harder to appoint a majority of sensible justices.

 

[Nomad]

So you're just mouthing off on an anonymous internet forum but don't have the balls to be yourself in person.

Damn, boy.

You just keep going and going with the pot calling the kettle black routine like the Energizer Bunny.

I obviously have you so snookered you can't come up with anything else.

Either that or you really are one stupid ape.

Probably wise. You would get your ass beat.

What is it with you "ethnic types" and your violent tempers?

Someone says something you don't approve of and you jump right into hollering about ass-whoopins.

Or pulling out guns and shooting. Etc, etc.

I don't tell random people I don't know what they are or what they think. You're the one -- from your white privilege throne -- who wants to tell minorities that they don't experience discrimination.

Hey idiot.... that is ALL you do.

Constantly.

Every post.

Multiple times per post.

You tell random people you don't know what they are or what they think.

And I can tell you/minorities/whoever that they don't experience discrimination because I have eyes and ears and I live in the real world, unlike you who lives in your little made up, fantasy world where you're a po' lil victim who needs mo' reparations and gibs me dats from de white man and

Fuck off, loser.

I have never called you a cracker before today when you proudly, loudly, obnoxiously proclaimed yourself a homophobe and a racist.

I did no such thing. But you have been obsessed with your white-hating, racist homo crap since your first lame-ass, limp-wristed attempt to dominate me on this forum with your desperate, witless, semi-literate blabbering.

I don't know if you've started partaking, but this might be the first post from you that is completely ridiculous from beginning to end. Attributing racism to a stranger is not analogous to telling a minority that they don't know what they experience or aren't allowed to feel about it the way they do.

Bullshit.

I never told a minority they "...don't know what they experience or aren't allowed to feel about it the way they do".

I just said you all lie and exaggerate about it.

Just like you lied about and exaggerated my claims about the subject.

All your racist shit about Black block parties and stolen guns is not worth my time.

Translation: You know every word of it is true.

You also forgot what the pronoun "you" means. A completely incoherent unhinged rant with asinine assumptions that paint you as completely insane. You may as well be Hawkeye's sock.

I have no idea WTF you're babbling about there.

I doubt you do either.

Lastly, I'm not a partisan. You think I don't understand moderation and nuance related to gender and race? Fuck you

Yes you are a partisan. You're such a flaming partisan progressive, you can't think straight.

Probably why you're one of those... things.

And it's obvious you don't understand moderation and nuance related to the POLITICS of gender and race. Fuck you.

I'm a non-white, non-straight person being preached at by an ancient, ignorant enemy of civil rights.

No, you're a gender confused, mixed race mongrel mutt who probably doesn't know exactly which races you are because you probably don't know who at least one of your parents are, who's being spoken plainly to for the first time in your life after having your precious ass kissed since you were a snotty little shit causing your teachers problems from elementary through high school.

Tell us more about our genders and our sex lives and claim again that you're the reasonable, moderate one. I dare you. I'll laugh your bigoted ass out of the forum.

You're a bunch of gender confused perverts.

You brag in your user profile about being a "pansexual", meaning I assume, that you'll roll around and rut with anyone or anything with a pulse.

Thankfully and fortunately for you, I am the reasonable, moderate one, and I'm here to straighten out your sad, confused, queer ass.

You're welcome.

 

[Diesel]

Damn, boy.

You just keep going and going with the pot calling the kettle black routine like the Energizer Bunny.

I obviously have you so snookered you can't come up with anything else.

Either that or you really are one stupid ape.



What is it with you "ethnic types" and your violent tempers?

Someone says something you don't approve of and you jump right into hollering about ass-whoopins.

Or pulling out guns and shooting. Etc, etc.



Hey idiot.... that is ALL you do.

Constantly.

Every post.

Multiple times per post.

You tell random people you don't know what they are or what they think.

And I can tell you/minorities/whoever that they don't experience discrimination because I have eyes and ears and I live in the real world, unlike you who lives in your little made up, fantasy world where you're a po' lil victim who needs mo' reparations and gibs me dats from de white man and

Fuck off, loser.



I did no such thing. But you have been obsessed with your white-hating, racist homo crap since your first lame-ass, limp-wristed attempt to dominate me on this forum with your desperate, witless, semi-literate blabbering.



Bullshit.

I never told a minority they "...don't know what they experience or aren't allowed to feel about it the way they do".

I just said you all lie and exaggerate about it.

Just like you lied about and exaggerated my claims about the subject.



Translation: You know every word of it is true.



I have no idea WTF you're babbling about there.

I doubt you do either.



Yes you are a partisan. You're such a flaming partisan progressive, you can't think straight.

Probably why you're one of those... things.

And it's obvious you don't understand moderation and nuance related to the POLITICS of gender and race. Fuck you.



No, you're a gender confused, mixed race mongrel mutt who probably doesn't know exactly which races you are because you probably don't know who at least one of your parents are, who's being spoken plainly to for the first time in your life after having your precious ass kissed since you were a snotty little shit causing your teachers problems from elementary through high school.



You're a bunch of gender confused perverts.

You brag in your user profile about being a "pansexual", meaning I assume, that you'll roll around and rut with anyone or anything with a pulse.

Thankfully and fortunately for you, I am the reasonable, moderate one, and I'm here to straighten out your sad, confused, queer ass.

You're welcome.

You're neither reasonable nor moderate. Your understanding of those words no longer applies to their general definitions. Your worldview expired. It happens, but it's ultimately you're fault. When you stop adapting to the changing world around you, this happens. You become confused, stubborn, and stale. You stomp your feet because you don't want to learn new words or new concepts or new perspectives because you think what was fine a half century ago or so is still fine.

It's not fine. It's called progress and although it sometimes stutter steps, it always wins. It always advances. And it causes you "conservatives" to spit all over yourselves in misplaced rage.

I don't identify with a political party. I feel strongly about some issues and causes, but I'm not a partisan. The dozens of baseless, wrong, bizarre assumptions about me you have thrown at me today cause me to doubt your mental health. You're clearly just talking to some caricature in your confused head and projecting it on me. Considering how vastly wrong and rabidly vile you've been today, I don't have any hope for your remaining days.

 

[Nomad]

You're neither reasonable nor moderate. Your understanding of those words no longer applies to their general definitions. Your worldview expired. It happens, but it's ultimately you're fault. When you stop adapting to the changing world around you, this happens. You become confused, stubborn, and stale. You stomp your feet because you don't want to learn new words or new concepts or new perspectives because you think what was fine a half century ago or so is still fine.

Your dream of black queers, lesbos, trannies and drag queens running America will never come to pass.

Fuhgeddaboudit.

It's not fine. It's called progress and although it sometimes stutter steps, it always wins. It always advances. And it causes you "conservatives" to spit all over yourselves in misplaced rage.

Says the brown, rotting fruit who's spitting all over himself in misplaced rage over recent SCOTUS decisions that are going to stand for decades. Probably longer than you'll be around.

Ha ha.

I don't identify with a political party. I feel strongly about some issues and causes, but I'm not a partisan. The dozens of baseless, wrong, bizarre assumptions about me you have thrown at me today cause me to doubt your mental health. You're clearly just talking to some caricature in your confused head and projecting it on me. Considering how vastly wrong and rabidly vile you've been today, I don't have any hope for your remaining days.

Ditto^^^

Right back atcha, sonny boy.

 

[Diesel]

Your dream of black queers, lesbos, trannies and drag queens running America will never come to pass.

Fuhgeddaboudit.



Says the brown, rotting fruit who's spitting all over himself in misplaced rage over recent SCOTUS decisions that are going to stand for decades. Probably longer than you'll be around.

Ha ha.



Ditto^^^

Right back atcha, sonny boy.

A final parting shot from a complete idiot who completely fabricates what he says in each post. It isn't about who "runs" the US, although you really should look up Biden's Cabinet and senior staff. It's about equality, civil rights, and general acceptance. You might get all itchy when you see two men holding hands, but you are already in a very, very small minority.

 

[Into the Night]

And whether it conforms to the Constitution depends on the views of a majority of the SC.

NO IT DOESN'T. The Supreme Court has NO authority to interpret or change the Constitution. They have no power to decide if their own decision conforms to the Constitution. It MUST conform to the Constitution or the decision is void as unconstitutional.

 

[Nomad]

A final parting shot from a complete idiot who completely fabricates what he says in each post.

Good to see you you finally admit the truth about yourself.

It isn't about who "runs" the US, although you really should look up Biden's Cabinet and senior staff. It's about equality, civil rights, and general acceptance.

All of which exists in this country more than in any other on Earth.

You really should look up Biden's Cabinet and senior staff.

Unfortunately, greedy, selfish, self-centered people like you are never satisfied.

You keep looking for and inventing new reasons to be dissatisfied and unhappy.

Always another reason to bitch, complain, cry victim and demand more.

You might get all itchy when you see two men holding hands, but you are already in a very, very small minority.

Projection^^^.