Supreme Court rules businesses can refuse service to LGBTQ+ customers

[jbander]

Supreme Court rules businesses can refuse service to LGBTQ+ customers

https://www.axios.com/2023/06/30/supreme-court-lgbtq-wedding-website


WINNING AND ON A ROLL!!!!!

This is a court you would find in Nazi Germany, selected by Hitler himself. You want hate and fake Christianity , well that is simple in 2023 vote Red. None of them are good for this great country. That is unless they reject Trump ,jan6th and being hate based in all actions and decisions. There is no democracy if the right wins the presidency. They have already choice dictatorship over democracy to stay in power. The right has chosen a demographic of our country that will never lose a election. The stupid and hate driven. That is when education is controlled by the hate party anywhere in this country while they make sure their voters are as stupid as possible, by lack of education and lies. You want to erase the chance of a hate party being able to take power in this country, Nothing to it, simply educate the population to the best of our ability. Out law the book burners that have moved into school boards across the nation. There has never been a uglier group controlling the direction of the education in this country.

 

[Diesel]

This Supreme Court is a broken activist court and deliberately so, via the Federalist Society plan.

This SC is put in place to reverse much of the past 100 years of progress and MAGA by returning us to times when what white men thought was all that can and should be considered. They are not hiding that and admit when they say they are now reading the Constitution with the original intent of the Framers and deciding cases based on that.

Understand that their position is that what a bunch of old white men, in a time when PoC were property and women had the rights of children only, input into their views of the law is now what they are saying will be the guide posts they use to judge all issues.

That is why you now see courts ruling that 'men guilty of spousal abuse cannot be denied guns anymore' and they reviersed saying 'that was not contemplated as a reason to deny a person a gun by the framers'. Again at a time when women had very few rights.

Clarence Thomas has made it clear too SOLICITING cases to be brought to the SC for them to reverse. No proper SC solicites cases eager to end prior precedent. They are arbiters of the cases in the system and not advocated of what needs to be brought to courts.

They have also made a mockery of 'standing' and 'Stare decisis' , which were two foundational elements of prior SC.

They granted status for the States to sue over Student loan forgiveness despite them demonstrating no justified standing. They granted status to this women who was concerned that maybe, one day, kind of sorta, she MIGHT want to sell web sites and she MIGHT end up sued and they did so with a fake person on the other end.

None of any of this matters if there is a case they want to hear so they can overturn it.

The good news is that if Joe Biden does stack the court, as he should with a big win in 2024, then the same republicans certainly will not cry about 'standing' or 'stare decisis' if that new court goes about changing, for the better, the entire recent history of the court and even much of the past.

This SC has turned into a completely political body that will just look to implement partisan positions depending on who has power at the time.

The Federalist Society's plan has never been a secret. They are implementing what they were created to do. "Elections have consequences," as they say. The Democrats better win some if we don't want to be returned to a third world 17th-century shit hole.

 

[Diesel]

That's all just your flaming, uninformed, extremist left-wing partisan opinion.

While I don't agree with some of their rulings, particularly on abortion, it's clear that they haven't proven themselves to be the extremist far right ideologue puppets it was feared they'd be.

The recent North Carolina voting rights case where conservative justices sided with the liberals on denying state's ability to control elections threw a big monkey wrench into the plans of Trump's red state ass-kissers.

There were a couple of other instances where Roberts and Kavanaugh crossed over and handed down opinions that sided with Kagen, Sotomayor and Jackson.

But telling colleges they can no longer use race as a biased determining factor, and the Gay Gestapo Mafia that they can't force people to create products that express agreement with their lifestyle, is hardly attacking anyone or dismantling civil rights progress or any of the other breathless, hyperbolic nonsense you panted about.

You are obviously a mindless simpleton who hears your own prejudiced beliefs mirrored by partisan news outlets, then parrots their words because you can't think for yourself.

You're no better or different in essence, than a rabid Trump cultist.

Opposite side of the same coin.

You think they're done? You can't see what they're doing? It's what they were designed to do. The Federalist Society's plan is not a secret. You're willing -- giddy even -- to watch other people lose their rights. You'll be singing a different song when they come for you.

 

[Diesel]

you sure are going on a long time about why I don't give the NYT money.

feel free to waste more of your time, but I read very little of what you are saying now, since you can't actually debate the subject and act like a child

Sigh. You're dumber than dog shit. It's not about the NYT. It's about you being a lazy liar and not understanding the subjects you think you have an opinion about.

 

[Into the Night]

dipshit with his fallacies fallacy

Bulverism fallacy. Inversion fallacy. Insult fallacies. No argument presented. Grow up.

 

[Into the Night]

derp derping his fallacies again

aka trailer park trash fallacy

Bulverism fallacy. Inversion fallacy. Insult fallacies. No argument presented. Grow up.

 

[Into the Night]

What leg am I standing on now? I don't understand your comment. Whether a decision is right or wrong depends on the makeup of the SC at the time.

WRONG! Whether a decision is right or wrong depends on whether the decision conforms with the Constitution or not, and whether the decision is just or not.

 

[Into the Night]

Where does the Constitution say free speech includes creative artistic expression or that affirmative action is legal for the military academies?

This is two questions:
1) There is no phrase 'free speech' in the Constitution of the United States.
2) It isn't.

 

[Into the Night]

Yet, many changes were just made in constitutional law and they were made by the Supreme Court which varied from previous court interpretations.

The Supreme Court is NOT constitutional law. The Supreme Court has NO authority to change or interpret the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

How do we know if the new decisions are in compliance with the Constitution or the previous decisions. Your opinion is based on your interpretation of the document which often varies with the court's opinions. But, the point is that it is a constitutional interpretation.

Where does the Constitution permit race based admissions for military academies but not other universities? That is pure interpretation and not in the document.

RQAA. Stop mindlessly repeating questions that have already been answered.

 

[Nomad]

I don't care what you think. I don't care what fake xtians who have bastardized Christ's message beyond comprehension think. There will always be stupid, hateful people; and my goal is not to help any of you deplorables evolve.

I don't care what you think. I don't care what Gay Nazi perverts who have bastardized liberty and freedom beyond comprehension think. There will always be selfish, hateful perverts; and my goal is not to help any of you sick, deplorable weirdos evolve.

I do care about the way government makes decisions about how people interact with each other. I care when government sanctions discrimination by "religious" people against LGBTQ people. I care when government forces women to carry pregnancies they don't want. I care when government says that two consenting adults are not allowed to get married or have whatever sex they want to have with each other in private. The fact that people go to court for permission to be shitty people to fellow citizens -- and the even more unbelievable fact that there are courts that will grant it -- means that whatever advancements we've made in the past 60 years are fragile and can be reversed in a moment.

I too care about the way government makes decisions about how people interact with each other. I care when government sanctions bullying by "LGBTQ" people against normal people.

I too care when government forces women to carry pregnancies they don't want.

I care when government says that two consenting adults are not allowed to get married or have whatever sex they want to have with each other in private. BUT THANKFULLY, THAT IS NOT HAPPENING IN AMERICA TODAY!!!

The fact that people go to court for permission to be shitty people to fellow citizens by forcing artisans to create messages they are morally opposed to -- and the even more unbelievable fact that there are courts that will grant it -- means that whatever advancements we've made in the past 60 years are fragile and can be reversed in a moment.

Thankfully the Supreme Court protected the rights of artisans, including custom cake and website designers as well as all others, against the Gay Nazi Mafia who thought they could get away with pushing their agenda by browbeating it into the heads of everyone else.

Your failure is America's victory!!!! .

 

[Nomad]

You think they're done? You can't see what they're doing? It's what they were designed to do. The Federalist Society's plan is not a secret. You're willing -- giddy even -- to watch other people lose their rights. You'll be singing a different song when they come for you.

Breathless, unhinged hyperbole ^^^^.

Standard refuge of the knee jerk reactionary, partisan extremist lunatic.

 

[Into the Night]

What I want, you insufferable idiot, is equality. Your ignorant posts drip with the unearned privilege of a sheltered, old fool who has never experienced the world and has never been the victim of meaningful discrimination. Yet you want to sit behind your computer screen and pontificate on the select cases when you grant certain minorities your permission to feel offended. Seriously, fuck you.

You don't get to speak for anyone else but you.

Discrimination common and legal.
It is legal and normal to discriminate between men and women when using locker rooms and restrooms.
It is legal and normal to discriminate while hiring actors.
It is legal and normal to discriminate between men and women in sports.
It is legal and normal to discriminate between believers and nonbelievers in a church.
It is legal and normal to discriminate between whiners and competent people in hiring and firing.
It is legal and normal to discriminate by age for retirement payouts of pensions, various investment schemes, and the Social Security administration.
It is legal and normal to discriminate those who are greater health risks than others in insurance policies.
It is legal and normal to discriminate those who are members and nonmembers of a club.
It is legal and normal to discriminate those who are sexual perverts and those who are normal 'straight' people for the purposes of marriage, adoptions, and other family matters.
it is legal and normal to discriminate those who are carriers of disease and those who are not.

Get used to it. Discrimination is legal and normal.

 

[Diesel]

I don't care what you think. I don't care what Gay Nazi perverts who have bastardized liberty and freedom beyond comprehension think. There will always be selfish, hateful perverts; and my goal is not to help any of you sick, deplorable weirdos evolve.



I too care about the way government makes decisions about how people interact with each other. I care when government sanctions bullying by "LGBTQ" people against normal people.

I too care when government forces women to carry pregnancies they don't want.

I care when government says that two consenting adults are not allowed to get married or have whatever sex they want to have with each other in private. BUT THANKFULLY, THAT IS NOT HAPPENING IN AMERICA TODAY!!!

The fact that people go to court for permission to be shitty people to fellow citizens by forcing artisans to create messages they are morally opposed to -- and the even more unbelievable fact that there are courts that will grant it -- means that whatever advancements we've made in the past 60 years are fragile and can be reversed in a moment.

Thankfully the Supreme Court protected the rights of artisans, including custom cake and website designers as well as all others, against the Gay Nazi Mafia who thought they could get away with pushing their agenda by browbeating it into the heads of everyone else.

Your failure is America's victory!!!! .

My post was so powerful that you felt the need to type it back at me. Cuckoo.

Also, there was no "Gay Nazi Mafia" -- whatever the fuck that means. There was no customer at all. No one asked for a gay wedding website. But this bitch was so determined to spread her hate that she sued for something that never happened.

 

[Diesel]

Breathless, unhinged hyperbole ^^^^.

Standard refuge of the knee jerk reactionary, partisan extremist lunatic.

That would be when you people claim "slippery slopes" and breathlessly promise that giant, hairy men are going to rape every little girl in a public bathroom. Or that people are going to marry goats and dogs if gay people get married. I'm not exaggerating anything. You're blatantly ignoring -- because you're a persistent liar -- what the Federalist Society and the judges have said themselves. They intend to reverse decades of social progress. You can deny it, but people who deny reality are not serious people.

 

[zymurgy]

Sigh. You're dumber than dog shit. It's not about the NYT. It's about you being a lazy liar and not understanding the subjects you think you have an opinion about.

derp derp

 

[zymurgy]

Bulverism fallacy. Inversion fallacy. Insult fallacies. No argument presented. Grow up.

the joke is back

moron with his fallacies fallacy

 

[Nomad]

My post was so powerful that you felt the need to type it back at me. Cuckoo.

Also, there was no "Gay Nazi Mafia" -- whatever the fuck that means. There was no customer at all. No one asked for a gay wedding website. But this bitch was so determined to spread her hate that she sued for something that never happened.

Your stupidity is so profound that I felt the need to type it back at you in hopes that even you would recognize how stupid and ---> Cuckoo <-- you sound.

Also, there IS a "Gay Nazi Mafia" -- who are behind the coordinated weirdo sex freaks' efforts to get their fucked up fag lifestyles encoded into the US legal system and into society's mores and folkways.

There was a customer who tried to force a cake maker to design a homo wedding cake. It was only a matter of time before agents of the Gay Nazi Mafia started demanding gay wedding websites. But this prudent woman was so determined to protect her freedom that she sued for and prevented, something that would have eventually happened.

Thankfully the highest court in the land ruled in her favor as well as in favor of every other American artisan who believes, as I do, that the 1st Amendment of The Constitution protects their freedom to not only say what they want to say, but to NOT SAY what they DON'T WANT TO SAY.

Sad that the Gay Nazi Mafia is so bent on shoving their dicks up society's ass that they aren't happy to just take their business to those who welcome it, but they want to force everyone to spread their message of faggotry for everyone.

While garnering the sympathy of idiots by crying victim.

 

[Diesel]

Your stupidity is so profound that I felt the need to type it back at you in hopes that even you would recognize how stupid and ---> Cuckoo <-- you sound.

Also, there IS a "Gay Nazi Mafia" -- who are behind the coordinated weirdo sex freaks' efforts to get their fucked up fag lifestyles encoded into the US legal system and into society's mores and folkways.

There was a customer who tried to force a cake maker to design a homo wedding cake. It was only a matter of time before agents of the Gay Nazi Mafia started demanding gay wedding websites. But this prudent woman was so determined to protect her freedom that she sued for and prevented, something that would have eventually happened.

Thankfully the highest court in the land ruled in her favor as well as in favor of every other American artisan who believes, as I do, that the 1st Amendment of The Constitution protects their freedom to not only say what they want to say, but to NOT SAY what they DON'T WANT TO SAY.

Sad that the Gay Nazi Mafia is so bent on shoving their dicks up society's ass that they aren't happy to just take their business to those who welcome it, but they want to force everyone to spread their message of faggotry for everyone.

While garnering the sympathy of idiots by crying victim.

Huh. You were doing a better job of hiding exactly how homophobic you are until that meltdown. I get it now. You don't give a shit about the phony web designer or the case or the 1st Amendment. You just hate "fags". How do you feel about niggers, you old, crazy, washed up pile of shit?

 

[Into the Night]

I didn't claim that she didn't have a business. There is no doubt on the planet that the man she claimed requested a website never did any such thing.

Since the claim is addressed concerning a specific person in the lawsuit, that person DOES exist.

For real, no MAGA moron may ever point the tin foil hat finger at anyone.

MAGA is not a person nor a moron. It is YOU 'wearing the foil hat'. It is YOU making wacky claims of conspiracy.

You people don't believe in science and medicine

You are describing yourself again.

and get your news from Twitter.

Twitter is not news.