Supreme Court rules against affirmative action.

martin said:
She invokes racism not “in the past” but as endemic in American culture and continuing today. It is “to make up” for this currently continuing racism that affirmative action exists, or did until yesterday.


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Terry believes she's an "uppity negress". IOW, I doubt logic works on him anymore. He's preset to dislike anyone left of Alt-Right and darker than a prison bed sheet.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That's a great example of exactly what I mean. She invokes inequality in the past and applies it to the present. That is clearly a Baconian fallacy. Further, she builds that response on essentially nothing but her opinion and use of other historical fallacies. In effect, what she's arguing is that because America was racist in the past, it must be racist today, and therefore through affirmative action, we must apply equal and opposite racism to the situation in the case (college admissions) to make up for that past racism.
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Indeed.

One hundred percent accurate.
 
martin said:
She invokes racism not “in the past” but as endemic in American culture and continuing today. It is “to make up” for this currently continuing racism that affirmative action exists, or did until yesterday.


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Stop with the racism, Marty. You are contributing to the continuing racism in America.

By the way, your side is losing...huuugely (sic).
 
Lionfish said:
What do you expect from someone who was picked because of her race and gender?
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Yep, and doesn't know what a woman is. At least Sotomayor claimed she was a proud Latina. Even tho that is racist as fuck.

Senator Pocahontas Warren abused AA ... and the Left does not hold her accountable.
 
Bigdog said:
Yep, and doesn't know what a woman is.

At least Sotomayor claimed she was a proud Latina. Even tho that is racist as fuck.

Senator Pocahontas Warren abused AA ... and the Left does not hold her accountable.
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Pup, you keep proving you are one of Trump's favorite people when you repeat that meme. Jackson could have answered better, but the answer would have been essentially the same: the legal definition of a woman is debatable if not indefinable under the Constitution. IIRC, the Constitution never mentions the word "man" either.

Latin isn't a race, dumbass. It's cultural. It's like saying I'm a proud Virginian or proud of my Irish ancestry.

She was held accountable. It pushed her out of the Presidential race. What grade were you in HS before dropping out, Pup? Did you ever get your GED?
 
Flash said:
Most colleges have space for more students. Anybody can be admitted if they choose the right school. If not, they are admitted provisionally.

A typical college cancels many classes each year because they do not have enough students (typically 10) to hold the class.

Community colleges are open admission and admit many students who did not graduate from high school.

In fall, 2022, undergraduate college enrollment was 15.1 million. Today, it is 1.2 million less. Many colleges would love to have some of that enrollment back and would admit anybody.

Any person who wants to attend college has no trouble being admitted someplace. If they are low income Pell grants will often cover the cost of tuition at low-cost community colleges.
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there is no school with 100% admission.

now you're just saying dumb shit.

maybe you always were.
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JesusAI said:
there is no school with 100% admission.

now you're just saying dumb shit.

maybe you always were.
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You are obviously unfamiliar with community colleges in the U. S. One of their main characteristics is being open admissions that accept any student.

The point is that any student can get into a college without affirmative action because it is only used in selective universities which is a small minority of schools.

And I am not even including the for-profit mostly online universities that are scams existing only on government grants and loans. Loans for many of these students have been forgiven because many of the schools suddenly shut down and leave students in the cold.
 
Flash said:
You are obviously unfamiliar with community colleges in the U. S. One of their main characteristics is being open admissions that accept any student.

The point is that any student can get into a college without affirmative action because it is only used in selective universities which is a small minority of schools.

And I am not even including the for-profit mostly online universities that are scams existing only on government grants and loans. Loans for many of these students have been forgiven because many of the schools suddenly shut down and leave students in the cold.
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Although I want to help those in need, billions of dollars in handouts for getting screwed by capitalism is a feel-good giveaway. Let them work it off, but also give them the pleasure of a public execution of the businessmen who screwed them. Trump praised the Chinese for executing drug dealers. They also execute corrupt businessmen.
Would Trump praise them for that too? LOL

I feel the same about forgiving people getting screwed by corrupt salespeople or their victims, the college students too ignorant (or stupid) as I do those who rode the Housing-Speculation Wave into the ground. Why should taxpayers bailout idiots who spent too much money and gambled it on speculation? Help them out, but don't make the tax payers pay for it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Jackson's dissent can be read here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/20-1199_hgdj.pdf

It starts on page 211 and is a mishmash of non sequiturs, irrelevancies, and assorted drivel. Most of it boils down to a historical fallacy and the related Baconian fallacy. That is, she recounts various historical anecdotes and then assumes them to be 100% valid and correct. The worst part is that she uses buzzwords, invoking "Jim Crow laws" at one point, as an example, while showing through what she's trying to discuss that she knows nothing about Jim Crow laws and their history.
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She's an obvious moron and should never have gotten on the court. Shame on Republicans who voted for the dumb hack. She couldn't even define woman, let alone what the Constitution means.
 
martin said:
Yeah, her dissent is right there. It is far from a "mishmash of non sequiturs..., etc. Rather, it is sharpest reasoned and written opinion of them all, and the opinion Thomas obviously felt most threatened by in his concurring majority opinion. It begins:
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Doc Dutch said:
It helps if you hate black people, especially black women, then it becomes easy to see it's all "non sequiturs, irrelevancies, and assorted drivel".

Notice who thinks Jackson, Thomas, Sotomayor only got the jobs because of the color of their skin.
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More race hustling bullshit. :palm:
 
martin said:
She invokes racism not “in the past” but as endemic in American culture and continuing today. It is “to make up” for this currently continuing racism that affirmative action exists, or did until yesterday.
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That is a boorish lie. Race hustlers in the DNC have to fabricate this moronic narrative to keep the division in our society alive. Without it, Democrats have NOTHING.
 
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