Supreme Court rules against affirmative action.
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Products of poor educational systems, are already behind in academics and opportunities. We have allowed schools in poor neighborhoods to decay. Many who got into college due to affirmative action have become huge successes, like Justice Thomas for example. Killing Affirmative Action is dooming lots of people with poor backgrounds from escaping. Blacks and Latinos are equal to whites in their ability to think and create. They have far fewer opportunities. The Roberts court locked that in.
Dutch Uncle
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Better to fix the schools rather than "lock the barn door after the horses have run off".
cawacko
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It’s being said in a different way but this type of thought is really not much different than TDAK. You think black people aren’t capable of competing on their own merit and are basically inferior. Really, black people cant get into any of the hundreds of Universities in this country without AA? That’s what you are saying above. (And out of curiously why leave out Asians since they are actually the ones being discriminated against?)
Dutch Uncle
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While I understand and agree with the problem, AA isn't the answer for the reasons you alluded: discrimination against Asians, institutionalized racial bias and a violation of the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause.
We need something better. IMO, that starts with leveling the playing field in K-12 public schools.
Your reading comprehension is sorely lacking.
That is not going to happen. Reality intrudes. We have millions of people living lives of desperation. They have very little chance to escape from a life that did not create.
That is a FAKE NEWS headline. They didn't rule "against" anything. They merely stated that creating arbitrary discriminatory entrance requirements violates the law.
cawacko
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No, I read perfectly clearly what you said. Maybe you don't understand how AA works. It's basically about getting middle class black with lower grades and tests scores into elite schools. Because one doesn't get into (pick an elite school) Yale doesn't mean they can't go to college. Because a poor kid doesn't get into (pick an elite school) Yale and goes to another college doesn't mean they are doomed to a life of poverty and can't escape their current circumstances. Why do we even have hundreds of Universities then if they do nothing to help poor (or any) people better their lives? It's elite college or bust is your point.
They didn't put an end to it. They just ruled that those arbitrary race-based standards violated existing laws in the CRA.
Dutch Uncle
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So give up? Throw money into the "free college" hole and call it a day?
The definition of stupid and ignorant.
Projection. Racists on the left call him an Uncle Tom.
Dutch Uncle
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Race based entrance requirements hurt blacks the most.
A "Dubious Expediency": How Race-Preferential Admissions Policies on Campus Hurt Minority Students
Unfortunately, a student whose entering academic credentials are well below those of the average student in a particular school will likely earn grades to match. Even former Princeton President William G. Bowen and former Harvard President Derek Bok, who were pioneers in formulating affirmative action policies, admit that the credentials gap has serious consequences.
https://www.heritage.org/civil-righ...-preferential-admissions-policies-campus-hurt
Jackson is the worst and least qualified dimwit to ever sit on the court.
“With let-them-eat-cake obliviousness, today, the majority pulls the ripcord and announces ‘colorblindness for all’ by legal fiat,”
“And having so detached itself from this country’s actual past and present experiences, the Court has now been lured into interfering with the crucial work that UNC and other institutions of higher learning are doing to solve America’s real-world problems. No one benefits from ignorance.”
“But deeming race irrelevant in law does not make it so in life,”
Just a few of the moronic race hustling things she said in her dissent.
Many (most?) universities want more students than they have applicants; therefore, they don't need to reject anybody and take almost all applicants. Many, especially community colleges, are open admissions.
The affirmative action applies primarily to faculty and staff.