“Supreme Court likely to drop school voucher bombshell”

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“The public focus on upcoming Supreme Court rulings has been on Roe v. Wade, the 1973 ruling that legalized abortion nationwide. But the court will also soon be handing down a decision in another case that could cause an earthquake for public education.”

“The case is Carson v. Makin, which was brought to expand voucher policies that provide public money for private and religious education. In Carson v. Makin, the conservative majority of the Supreme Court is likely to require Maine officials to use public funding to subsidize religious teaching and proselytizing at schools that legally discriminate against people who don’t support their religious beliefs.”

“A Carson ruling in favor of the families may mean that states could be seen as “engaging in discrimination if they did not allow a church or religious entity to operate a publicly funded charter school as a religious school.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/05/27/supreme-court-school-voucher-bombshell/

This is going to be exciting come June/July, the Trump court is going to come out with decisions on abortion, guns, and now charter schools, and it wasn’t that long ago that conservatives told anyone who would listen that Judicial Restraint was one of their guiding principles. And then the Justices will come out questioning why the country thinks they are a joke

Can’t wait to see what happens when the Islamic school puts in for charter recognition and public funding

 

[Grokmaster]

As long as the private schools meet state educational standards, what's the problem?

Parochial schools regularly blow away public schools academically, and the way vouchers work, they only take 1/2 of the $$ as a voucher for each student that goes to a private school ,leaving MORE MONEY, AND LESS STUDENTS for the public schools.


Public schools spend more per student than private schools, and fail miserably at STEM education of our kids.

 

[Stone]

“The public focus on upcoming Supreme Court rulings has been on Roe v. Wade, the 1973 ruling that legalized abortion nationwide. But the court will also soon be handing down a decision in another case that could cause an earthquake for public education.”

“The case is Carson v. Makin, which was brought to expand voucher policies that provide public money for private and religious education. In Carson v. Makin, the conservative majority of the Supreme Court is likely to require Maine officials to use public funding to subsidize religious teaching and proselytizing at schools that legally discriminate against people who don’t support their religious beliefs.”

“A Carson ruling in favor of the families may mean that states could be seen as “engaging in discrimination if they did not allow a church or religious entity to operate a publicly funded charter school as a religious school.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/05/27/supreme-court-school-voucher-bombshell/

This is going to be exciting come June/July, the Trump court is going to come out with decisions on abortion, guns, and now charter schools, and it wasn’t that long ago that conservatives told anyone who would listen that Judicial Restraint was one of their guiding principles. And then the Justices will come out questioning why the country thinks they are a joke

Can’t wait to see what happens when the Islamic school puts in for charter recognition and public funding

Nobody cares about the few little Islamic schools that there are. But the other schools that are EVERYWHERE? Yep...BIG WIN!

 

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As long as the private schools meet state educational standards, what's the problem?

Parochial schools regularly blow away public schools academically, and the way vouchers work, they only take 1/2 of the $$ as a voucher for each student that goes to a private school ,leaving MORE MONEY, AND LESS STUDENTS for the public schools.


Public schools spend more per student than private schools, and fail miserably at STEM education of our kids.

Couple of issues there, first, one of the reasons charter schools outperform public school is because they can pick their students and they can also flush students they don’t want, neither which a public school can do, they have to educate who ever appears at the door

And secondly, I find it hard to believe that a State as say Alabama or Kansas is going to acceptingly accept and fund the Islamic, or better yet, the Nation of Islam, school

 

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Nobody cares about the few little Islamic schools that there are. But the other schools that are EVERYWHERE? Yep...BIG WIN!

You are aware that the majority of charter schools fail, and now by openly funding them, you are creating an entire industry where a shuckster can work the system to his own benefit, just think Trump U for primary schools

 

[dukkha]

Race to the Bottom: Uncovering the Secret Forces Destroying American Public Education
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...y/public-education-is-in-a-race-to-the-bottom
Luke Rosiak investigates the public school system and exposes the hidden agendas that have been pushed for decades by special interest groups and bad actors. He identifies how education got to the state it is in today, who enabled it, and why.

It all starts with “schools putting their resources into everything except preparing our children for college or careers,” Rosiak writes. And it’s not a money problem. Billions of dollars have been spent on initiatives promising to solve racial inequalities and improve academic performance but that instead work against the very ideas of excellence.

That hasn’t kept school leaders from hiring for-profit racial equity consultants and partnering with philanthropic foundations more concerned with tagging any “system” that highlights racially unequal results as inherently “systemically racist” than pursuing ways to help all students excel.

As Rosiak unravels the spider’s web, he finds that those bent on turning our education system into something it was never intended to be are involved with multiple front groups.

Far from “merely the rich families who paid for some art museums or public television programming,” philanthropic foundations have spent billions of dollars, accumulated through capitalism, to create various associations and activist groups to fight against it. “The foundation money serves as seed money that is eventually leveraged by another source,” Rosiak writes. “The foundations have created their own mouthpieces and gotten others to pay for it. There are hundreds of such activist groups, local and national, pushing complaints about ‘systemic racism,’ equity, and the evils of capitalism to public schools and children.”

 

[leaningright]

Couple of issues there, first, one of the reasons charter schools outperform public school is because they can pick their students and they can also flush students they don’t want, neither which a public school can do, they have to educate who ever appears at the door

Just on this part I would say, kind of like Germany, China, South Korea and other school systems across the world that the US public schools are often compared to?

 

[dukkha]

Pacific Educational Group has made “millions of dollars implanting radical ideas into K-12 schools” and laid the groundwork for the rhetoric that now dominates a large portion of school districts. His teacher trainings have focused on “white privilege” and even included separating attendees into racially segregated groups, Rosiak documents.

All this focus on money and equity, Rosiak continues, has resulted in crumbling academic standards, the effects of which will hurt children in ways that will affect them for decades.

 

[Grokmaster]

Couple of issues there, first, one of the reasons charter schools outperform public school is because they can pick their students and they can also flush students they don’t want, neither which a public school can do, they have to educate who ever appears at the door

And secondly, I find it hard to believe that a State as say Alabama or Kansas is going to acceptingly accept and fund the Islamic, or better yet, the Nation of Islam, school

Private schools to do not "CHOOSE THEIR STUDENTS"..the students' parents CHOOSE THEM. It's THEIR MONEY, TOO.

AS long as the Muslim schools meets academic standards, they have a right to vouchers ,too.

Spare us your hypothetical nonsense.



The money should FOLLOW THE STUDENT, NOT BE ARBITRARILY DISTRIBUTED TO GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS, REGARDLESS OF THE PARENTS' (you know..the ones who PAY THE TAXES) WISHES.


EVEN THE FRENCH ARE THAT SMART....

 

[BidenPresident]

Charter schools usually do not outperform public schools.

 

[Bigdog]

You are aware that the majority of charter schools fail, and now by openly funding them, you are creating an entire industry where a shuckster can work the system to his own benefit, just think Trump U for primary schools

Yeah, that's how the Free Market works. The charter schools that don't perform end up closing. If only the same standard were applied to traditional public schools.

"What percent of charter schools are successful?
Recent research from the Center for Education Reform (CER), a charter advocacy group, indicates that 12% of all charter schools that have opened have been closed, with more than two thirds of the closures coming as a result of financial deficiencies or mismanagement.

Charter Schools: Research and Report - National Conference of ...https://www.ncsl.org › research › education › charter-scho..."



The truth is that White lib females are segregationists, just like chain whippin', "RACIAL JUNGLES" Biden, who do not want poor Black children in their private white lib schools.

 

[archives]

Race to the Bottom: Uncovering the Secret Forces Destroying American Public Education
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...y/public-education-is-in-a-race-to-the-bottom
Luke Rosiak investigates the public school system and exposes the hidden agendas that have been pushed for decades by special interest groups and bad actors. He identifies how education got to the state it is in today, who enabled it, and why.

It all starts with “schools putting their resources into everything except preparing our children for college or careers,” Rosiak writes. And it’s not a money problem. Billions of dollars have been spent on initiatives promising to solve racial inequalities and improve academic performance but that instead work against the very ideas of excellence.

That hasn’t kept school leaders from hiring for-profit racial equity consultants and partnering with philanthropic foundations more concerned with tagging any “system” that highlights racially unequal results as inherently “systemically racist” than pursuing ways to help all students excel.

As Rosiak unravels the spider’s web, he finds that those bent on turning our education system into something it was never intended to be are involved with multiple front groups.

Far from “merely the rich families who paid for some art museums or public television programming,” philanthropic foundations have spent billions of dollars, accumulated through capitalism, to create various associations and activist groups to fight against it. “The foundation money serves as seed money that is eventually leveraged by another source,” Rosiak writes. “The foundations have created their own mouthpieces and gotten others to pay for it. There are hundreds of such activist groups, local and national, pushing complaints about ‘systemic racism,’ equity, and the evils of capitalism to public schools and children.”

Undocumented opinion piece from the “Examiner,” brings nothing to the topic

 

[Phantasmal]

Couple of issues there, first, one of the reasons charter schools outperform public school is because they can pick their students and they can also flush students they don’t want, neither which a public school can do, they have to educate who ever appears at the door

And secondly, I find it hard to believe that a State as say Alabama or Kansas is going to acceptingly accept and fund the Islamic, or better yet, the Nation of Islam, school

Or the Satanic School.

 

[dukkha]

Undocumented opinion piece from the “Examiner,” brings nothing to the topic

it's documented. you dont want to hear it as usual
Public schools are often trash - this sound familiar?

Billions of dollars have been spent on initiatives promising to solve racial inequalities and improve academic performance but that instead work against the very ideas of excellence.

That hasn’t kept school leaders from hiring for-profit racial equity consultants and partnering with philanthropic foundations more concerned with tagging any “system” that highlights racially unequal results as inherently “systemically racist” than pursuing ways to help all students excel.

 

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Private schools to do not "CHOOSE THEIR STUDENTS"..the students' parents CHOOSE THEM. It's THEIR MONEY, TOO.

AS long as the Muslim schools meets academic standards, they have a right to vouchers ,too.

Spare us your hypothetical nonsense.



The money should FOLLOW THE STUDENT, NOT BE ARBITRARILY DISTRIBUTED TO GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS, REGARDLESS OF THE PARENTS' (you know..the ones who PAY THE TAXES) WISHES.


EVEN THE FRENCH ARE THAT SMART....

Get in the real world, those private schools can reject the student those parents want to send to the school, and even if they accept him, they can flush him a month later, there are other parents who want their kid to take their place

And I noticed you had no input on opening up the funding of private schools as a market to manipulators willing to cash in at the cost of kids losing, Trump industries could make a killing in Red States. Or the fact that the State will be funding religious schools, which I thought violated the Establishment Clause

 

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it's documented. you dont want to hear it as usual
Public schools are often trash - this sound familiar?

Billions of dollars have been spent on initiatives promising to solve racial inequalities and improve academic performance but that instead work against the very ideas of excellence.

That hasn’t kept school leaders from hiring for-profit racial equity consultants and partnering with philanthropic foundations more concerned with tagging any “system” that highlights racially unequal results as inherently “systemically racist” than pursuing ways to help all students excel.

It is an opinion piece from an opinion source, I could ping pong it endlessly with similar opinion pieces from left leaning partisan sources

Public schools aren’t trash, the overwhelming population of America has, and is, taught in public schools, you saying Americans are illiterate

 

[Bigdog]

It is an opinion piece from an opinion source, I could ping pong it endlessly with similar opinion pieces from left leaning partisan sources

Public schools aren’t trash, the overwhelming population of America has, and is, taught in public schools, you saying Americans are illiterate

It is you Aristocratic, better than thou, White Libs who are so quick to use "public school education" as a slur to demean anyone who disagrees with you.

 

[Bigdog]

Charter schools usually do not outperform public schools.

Typical White Lib Female tries to divert to public charter schools.

What about the real white lib private schools? Why can't they be a choice for poor Black children?

 

[Celticguy]

Nobody cares about the few little Islamic schools that there are. But the other schools that are EVERYWHERE? Yep...BIG WIN!

they wont be able to comply with educational requirements nor will they accept monitoring so kinda moot.

 

[archives]

It is you Aristocratic, better than thou, White Libs who are so quick to use "public school education" as a slur to demean anyone who disagrees with you.

I am not “disagreeing” with him, just pointing out the shortsightedness of his response, pretty obvious, even showed him where I could do the same employing similar sources

And playing the martyr is getting old, lame and old