Supreme Court Agrees to Hear Trump’s Immunity Claim, Setting Arguments for April

What is our other option?

Not trusting them.

We have to accept what they did as we have no choice. But whether we give them our Trust or not is not required, it is earned.

Think of a spouse caught cheating once and now going out for the evening. You DO NOT have to simply trust them. They must earn that via actions and time.
 
Dont get so worked up. Its not like you will have to go to one of the forced labor camps,...your too old for that. Nope,....not for you. You only get the gallows is all ! :laugh:

If Trump gets back in, and it seems to me that the chances of that happening are fair to good, EVERYONE will be faced with shit they never thought they would face in the US.

Disappointing to me that there are so many who are fools enough to want Trump to prevail.
 
a president has legal immunity due to keeping lawfare out of politics.

but relax, it only requires one extra step, an impeachment.


that was tried twice.

you're just a deranged political imbecile.

don't worry. society will correct for your perversions.

A president has legal immunity due to keeping lawfare out of politics?

This is stated where in the Constitution?

Get the fuck out of here idiot!

This is an adult conversation!
 
Yes if it was an immediate need for sitting President but not so much need for a former president. So there is no need to expedite the trial.

if there is an DOJ indictment saying the former POTUS tried to steal the last election and defy the Constitution, that is vital information the voter should have adjudicated as true or not before they vote again.

If not true, the person should get the benefit of that answer. If true the voters should know that.

You would 100% agree if this were anyone but Trump as few things could be more important to know in a Constitutional democracy, other than if the person you elect to protect the Constitution was willing to violate it to stay in power.
 
They sure moved faster on a briefing schedule for deciding if Trump could be on the ballot. They moved faster in Bush v. Gore, they moved faster in the Nixon case, they moved faster in many cases that we of critical importance.

Reality: They tried to remove him from the ballot when there was less than a month available to remove or allow his name to be on the ballot, though his name was on the ballot the decision they will make will involve whether they will count the votes on the 5th of this very month. The election is in November, the speed of the hearing is appropriate, and actually very quick.

Like back in the day when Gore was taking it to never ending court and they had to decide before certifying happened...

This isn't dragging their feet... seriously. If they were acting in their normal scheduling they would, like other things they'll decide to hear now, put it on their calendar for October and you'd hear their decision in the beginning of the next year like they normally do these things.
 
If Trump gets back in, and it seems to me that the chances of that happening are fair to good, EVERYONE will be faced with shit they never thought they would face in the US.

Disappointing to me that there are so many who are fools enough to want Trump to prevail.

He can... He will... and HE MUST PREVAIL! Together we will make america GREAT AGAIN! All Heil MAGA!

:grokmaster:
 
Reality: They tried to remove him from the ballot when there was less than a month available to remove or allow his name to be on the ballot, though his name was on the ballot the decision they will make will involve whether they will count the votes on the 5th of this very month. The election is in November, the speed of the hearing is appropriate, and actually very quick.

Like back in the day when Gore was taking it to never ending court and they had to decide before certifying happened...

This isn't dragging their feet... seriously. If they were acting in their normal scheduling they would, like other things they'll decide to hear now, put it on their calendar for October and you'd hear their decision in the beginning of the next year like they normally do these things.

They could have, and there is precedent for, taking this case on a much more expedited schedule. They made a choice to do exactly what would push it off until after the election.

They took something like 6 weeks to make a decision that should have taken one day.
 
Not trusting them.

We have to accept what they did as we have no choice. But whether we give them our Trust or not is not required, it is earned.

Think of a spouse caught cheating once and now going out for the evening. You DO NOT have to simply trust them. They must earn that via actions and time.

I understand your point. But we cant do anything about it. I wish Congress had the power to call them in to testify about their actions. Id love to see ACB testify about why she said she would respect the R v. W precedent then chose not to do so.
 
No, “QP” is correct, the Court is slow walking this case, they had Smith’s request last December, and the Appeals Court came back with a unanimous decision, there is no reason other than to accommodate Trump, that Smith will probably now have to wait six months for a decision

And lets not treat the SC as if they are stupid people.

We all knew with 100% assuredness when they turned Jack Smith down to hear it directly, back in January, that whether it was Trump or Jack who lost at the Colorado SC ruling, it would then be immediately appealed, asking for review by the SC.

So that is why Jack said very specifically to them, that if you are inclined to want to hear this case regardless of what Colorado rules, then just take it directly and save us the step.

In the SC Court saying 'let Colorado hear it', it was believed they were prepared to allow Colorado to decide it if the ruling was decisive and they would refuse appeal based on the very notion that a POTUS having immunity is not something any sane person believes or has ever been practiced in the US. Nixon and Clinton were both threatened with prosecution and Nixon had to get a pardon and Clinton cut a deal to avoid it.

So the SC looked at it and chose the path DELIBERATELY that added the maximum amount of delay.
 
They could have, and there is precedent for, taking this case on a much more expedited schedule. They made a choice to do exactly what would push it off until after the election.

They took something like 6 weeks to make a decision that should have taken one day.

And when it's your turn to be in the courts, and you know it will happen, you will be glad for their deliberative speed. We get our day in court, as you said earlier in this thread, you must trust the system. In these cases they seem to be moving at a rate that considers the timing. I get that you don't like it now, but you know for a fact you will when it is your turn in these courts. They dragged their feet until the last minute for Gore, allowing them time to continue counting in the hopes they would "find' enough votes, and you didn't complain about that one...

The time is quicker than most hearings and decisions because they realize that the election is coming up. I get that you don't like their pace and you wish they'd just agree with you now without deliberation or hearings... but, thankfully for Americans, that isn't how this works.
 
The ruling was not even a consideration in 2022

derp derp

the supposed crime happened when exactly?

you idiots tried to have your cake and eat it too. you slow rolled this to maximize damage in both 2022 and 2024, and now you will cry in the bed you shit and have to sleep in
 
derp derp

the supposed crime happened when exactly?

you idiots tried to have your cake and eat it too. you slow rolled this to maximize damage in both 2022 and 2024, and now you will cry in the bed you shit and have to sleep in

Yup, they tried to schedule it at the time it would most damage a campaign. Then they cry about the speed at which the SCOTUS is hearing things because it ruins their plans. Folks are going to vote to decide who lives in the White House rather than courts deciding it, democrats should run on what you plan on doing rather than trying to continue the lawfare approach.
 
Reality: They tried to remove him from the ballot when there was less than a month available to remove or allow his name to be on the ballot, though his name was on the ballot the decision they will make will involve whether they will count the votes on the 5th of this very month. The election is in November, the speed of the hearing is appropriate, and actually very quick.
Partisan much?

the "Speed of the hearing" is every bit as "appropriate" now with the election even closer and this issues adjudication clock running out. The only way to deny that is a very partisan 'we do not need that questioned answered until after the election', which makes no sense outside a partisan lens.

Like back in the day when Gore was taking it to never ending court and they had to decide before certifying happened...
You really do not understand the history you speak of or you only apply partisan spin.

When the SC rushed to take up the Gore V Bush case, the Florida State legislature already had a date certain where the count would be stopped and Certification had to be entered. That was not the issue and the date was not in peril because ballot issues were being fought in Court by BOTH sides as to whether ballots with hanging chads should be counted or not. At that date certain, as in many States, all recounts and counts cease and certification has to be completed, declaring a winner based on whatever is in.

What the SC did that was reprehensible was that they ordered the count STOPPED, while they heard the case if the count should continue, and then they ruled the count SHOULD continue but since we were up against the Certification deadline there was no longer time to count them, so the count had to be certified as is, and Bush then won.

This was the Roger Stone plan and it was very similar to the plan he and Trump tried to 'stop the counts' as in both cases they knew the outstanding votes favored Gore and Biden and if counted could see them come from behind and win. And a review of all ballots after that showed in fact that Gore would have won if the count was not stopped.

A SC that was being honest would have allowed the count to continue while they ruled, so if they agreed they should be counted, then they would have been, and if they ruled they should not, then they just discard them. BUt they chose a path that even if Gore won in court (and he did), he was still going to lose as they ran out the clock.

This isn't dragging their feet... seriously. If they were acting in their normal scheduling they would, like other things they'll decide to hear now, put it on their calendar for October and you'd hear their decision in the beginning of the next year like they normally do these things.
This IS not a normal schedule thing so you dishonesty here is clear.

You have to compare this to other such emergency appeals where impending deadlines approach where the ruling could have significant impact. This is, by comparison a snails pace, in those rare instances.
 
A president has legal immunity due to keeping lawfare out of politics?

This is stated where in the Constitution?

Get the fuck out of here idiot!

This is an adult conversation!

it's reflected in our legal system in presidents being impeached instead of tried criminally.

it's called the separation of powers.
 
And when it's your turn to be in the courts, and you know it will happen, you will be glad for their deliberative speed. We get our day in court, as you said earlier in this thread, you must trust the system. In these cases they seem to be moving at a rate that considers the timing. I get that you don't like it now, but you know for a fact you will when it is your turn in these courts. They dragged their feet until the last minute for Gore, allowing them time to continue counting in the hopes they would "find' enough votes, and you didn't complain about that one...

The time is quicker than most hearings and decisions because they realize that the election is coming up. I get that you don't like their pace and you wish they'd just agree with you now without deliberation or hearings... but, thankfully for Americans, that isn't how this works.

YOu need to stop speaking about history as you continue to out yourself as stupid.

Florida like all States has a date certain, via their State constitutions for certification. Gore and anyone can use as much time, as Trump did across the country to launch appeals, go to court and fight for recounts.

The SC DOES NOT drag their feet and allow that, so stop being stupid.

And Trump would NOT want all the "deliberative time" you are now trying to pretend everyone should want. There are cases where speed is of the essence if people are not to end up above the law and the SC has historically been able to move extremely quickly to accommodate that.

And that is how it DOES work, Except now when it might harm Trump.
 
it's reflected in our legal system in presidents being impeached instead of tried criminally.

it's called the separation of powers.

Reflected?

It's not about what is reflected- It's about what is written in the Constitution!

The Constitution does not reflect SHIT- IT SAYS WHAT IT SAYS!

Reflected MY ASS!
 
Lose, depends upon their decision, as I said, a muddled decision serves him, but regardless, the point is they have already done Trump a huge favor by allowing him to postpone his trials

Poor anchovies, perhaps the rabid lefties so eager to take Trump out of the race at the last minute, should have persued their folly earlier.
 
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