Such good things coming from legalization of Pot, congrats potheads!

Celticguy said:
if you tax pot in addition to making a profit on the sales then you allow the black market to remain which funds organized crime and the murder and mayhem tht is part and parcel of it all. organized crime can always beat the comercial government on price.
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Why would that allow the black market to remain? The reason it's that expensive to begin with is that it's a black market item. Legalize it and the prices drop enough that even with taxes, the black market couldn't sell it cheap enough.
 
putsometrebleinit said:
Why would that allow the black market to remain? The reason it's that expensive to begin with is that it's a black market item. Legalize it and the prices drop enough that even with taxes, the black market couldn't sell it cheap enough.
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the black market can always win on price. production costs are lower, no retail outlets to add to COGS. no advertising, payroll, workmans comp, social security, healthcare... want me to go on ? chances are they ar4e supplying the retail trade as well. they probably funded the lobbying to get it legalized in CO.
 
Celticguy said:
the black market can always win on price. production costs are lower, no retail outlets to add to COGS. no advertising, payroll, workmans comp, social security, healthcare... want me to go on ? chances are they ar4e supplying the retail trade as well. they probably funded the lobbying to get it legalized in CO.
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While that point is good in theory you are forgetting or overlooking the costs of doing business in drug game. It costs money to get the product to the end user. Paying off the appropriate authorities and pure risk drives up prices as well as withholding supply to increase demand. Anheiser Busch doesn't have to deal with any of that. Neither does Phillip Morris. And speaking of those two, their products are pretty reasonably priced. No one is buying black market tobacco and moonshine is merely a novelty. No since in dealing with the hassle of going to jail when you can buy a pure, guaranteed product, from a retailer.
 
Celticguy said:
the black market can always win on price. production costs are lower, no retail outlets to add to COGS. no advertising, payroll, workmans comp, social security, healthcare... want me to go on ? chances are they ar4e supplying the retail trade as well. they probably funded the lobbying to get it legalized in CO.
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Like the cigarette black market!
You suck at economics
 
putsometrebleinit said:
While that point is good in theory you are forgetting or overlooking the costs of doing business in drug game. It costs money to get the product to the end user. Paying off the appropriate authorities and pure risk drives up prices as well as withholding supply to increase demand. Anheiser Busch doesn't have to deal with any of that. Neither does Phillip Morris. And speaking of those two, their products are pretty reasonably priced. No one is buying black market tobacco and moonshine is merely a novelty. No since in dealing with the hassle of going to jail when you can buy a pure, guaranteed product, from a retailer.
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Yes they have their expenses and still they make huge money. They dont bribe anyone any more as they are the government in Mexico. Look into black market cigarettes in places like NY. Guys have been coming to Virginia to buy cigarettes for sale in NY sans the massive taxes there for generations. And down south you might be surprised how many people buy moonshine and not for the novelty. You can buy legal moonshine in liquor stores but the illegal stuff still does a lively business.
 
Celticguy said:
Yes they have their expenses and still they make huge money. They dont bribe anyone any more as they are the government in Mexico. Look into black market cigarettes in places like NY. Guys have been coming to Virginia to buy cigarettes for sale in NY sans the massive taxes there for generations. And down south you might be surprised how many people buy moonshine and not for the novelty. You can buy legal moonshine in liquor stores but the illegal stuff still does a lively business.
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Your a desperate little Prohibitionist
 
Celticguy said:
Look into black market cigarettes in places like NY. Guys have been coming to Virginia to buy cigarettes for sale in NY sans the massive taxes there for generations.
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That reminds me of growing up down south and the way people from Alabama and Tennessee would go into Georgia and Florida and buy lottery tickets and resell them at a higher price. Ahhh memories.

But I would argue that with cigarettes it's an effect of the state governments trying to force people to not smoke by ridiculous taxes because they have no way of outright banning them. I am not naive enough to believe that this wouldn't happen with Marijuana in some states but like with the cigarettes they are paying a median price when they do this. Less than new York but more than Virginia. All in all it would still be cheaper because they would be buying branded Marijuana from a us retailer rather than South of the border stuff.
 
Celticguy said:
Yes they have their expenses and still they make huge money. They dont bribe anyone any more as they are the government in Mexico. Look into black market cigarettes in places like NY. Guys have been coming to Virginia to buy cigarettes for sale in NY sans the massive taxes there for generations. And down south you might be surprised how many people buy moonshine and not for the novelty. You can buy legal moonshine in liquor stores but the illegal stuff still does a lively business.
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Illegal moonshine carries no guarantees about quality...which is why prohibition was ended.
 
The OP has made no correlation between this incident, and legal marijuana. "Leafy" marijuana was not purchased at a dispensary of any sort.

And if this OP thinks that no kid has ever resold alcohol in a school, or anywhere in public, then he/she's grossly misinformed.

Oh....wait.
 
patriot66 said:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/04/colorado-fourth-graders-busted-for-selling-pot/

It’s Legal to Sell Pot in Colorado, But Not If You’re in 4th Grade

Clayton Sandell
By Clayton Sandell
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Apr 23, 2014 4:08pm

DENVER – Two Colorado fourth graders were busted for selling marijuana at their elementary school, prompting officials today to urge adults to keep their weed locked away from kids.

School officials said a 10-year-old fourth grade boy brought a small quantity of leafy marijuana to Monfort Elementary School in Greeley, Colorado, on Monday.

“He sold it to three other fourth graders on the school playground, which resulted in a profit to the young man of $11,” John Gates, director of safety and security for the Greeley-Evans School District, told ABC News.

The next day, Gates said one of the three young buyers brought a marijuana edible to school and gave it to the boy who sold the pot on Monday. That boy took a bite, but did not suffer any ill effects, Gates said.

Both boys apparently got the weed from relatives, according to Gates.

“Both of these kids took the marijuana without the consent of their grandparents,” said Gates.

Gates said the four students involved will be suspended for a “significant” number of days, but declined to say exactly how long the punishment would be. Initially police were called, but officials have determined the incident will not he handled as a criminal matter, he said.

“We hope to send a good message here without ruining anybody’s lives. The message we really want to get out here to the adults is, ‘for crying out loud, secure it,’” Gates said.

Adults 21 and older have been able to buy recreational marijuana legally in Colorado since Jan. 1.

In a letter sent home to parents, Monfort Elementary School Principal Jennifer Sheldon said no student was injured.

“We know that many adults have greater access to marijuana since the change in the drug’s legal status in Colorado,” Sheldon wrote. “We urge all parents, grandparents and anyone who cares for children to treat marijuana as you would prescription drugs, alcohol or even firearms. This drug is potentially lethal to children, and should always be kept under lock and key, away from young people.”

The side effects of edible marijuana – which can be far more potent than smoking a joint – have been raising new concerns after two recent deaths in Colorado. In one, a 19-year old college student died when he jumped off a hotel balcony after eating a marijuana-laced cookie. In the second, Richard Kirk, 47, was charged with shooting and killing his wife while she called 9-1-1, telling police her husband had consumed pot-infused candy.

Colorado’s legislature is currently considering new safety regulations for marijuana edibles, including bills requiring stronger warning labels and lowering the amount of THC permitted in food.

The Associated Press contributed to this report
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Maybe we should do background checks before people buy weed.
 
The only difference between before and after State legalization here is somebody wrote a story about it. Pre-legalization this wouldn't make the news.
 
Teflon Don said:
Maybe we should do background checks before people buy weed.
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Maybe we should do background checks on JPP posters. Minimum IQ standards and non aberrant personality disorders would be my suggested requirements. You would be disqualified at least once.
 
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