Irish Exit
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Perhaps you should do some reflection. Democrats: Border Enforcement is Racist!!!!!! Reality: Over half the border patrol agents are hispanic/latino.
Study finds liberals exaggerate political differences more than conservatives
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Perhaps you should do some reflection. Democrats: Border Enforcement is Racist!!!!!! Reality: Over half the border patrol agents are hispanic/latino.
Is that a point about the immigrants? I suspect that border guards are already here, and get the job because they speak Spanish.
What do you mean by ignore the differences? The simple finding is that liberals make their strawmen more outrageous than conservatives make theirs. That's all. What the fuck does being a centrist have to do with anything? The people freely described their political leanings and were asked to use their own words. You don't seem to even understand what was done. You undoubtedly didn't read it. LOL typical liberal Dunning/Kruger all star
canceled.2021.3
Former Vice President
It stands to reason. All of liberalism is a house of cards built on lies
Look at how dishonest they are about taxation
When they argue for high taxes they speak only of multi millionaires but when they put their policy on paper they hit people earning $250,000 a year
All lies
1. It has not been peer reviewed. PLOS states if there was a peer review the reviewer would be named.
2. Participants were not randomly chosen but were persons who chose to visit a website.
3. The sample sizes are quite different - 1174 liberals, 500 conservatives.
4. On the 7 point scale, "our sample of conservatives contains a higher proportion of self-described slight conservatives than a representative population would." The "mean" of conservatives in the study would then be moved toward less conservative than the population in general.
5. It allows each group to self identify it's morality and then compares the other group's view. If one group is more prone to lying about their personal morality, then the comparison is only what each side perceives their morality to be not what their actual positions are.
6. The accuracy is determined based on the mean of each group. We already know that the conservative mean is different than what it is in the general population. There is no reference to how the liberal sample compares to the general population.
7. There is no attempt to correct the data to represent the general population but conclusions are drawn that are attributed to the general population.
One would expect that extreme liberals and extreme conservatives would be more likely to mischaracterize the moral position of the other side. This study fails to look at the various levels of conservative/liberal on their scale and doesn't attempt to correct for bias in the answers based on not being representative of the general population. While it does raise some interesting questions, it does little to answer them. It also isn't close to what the OP claimed was in this study.
There is no mention anywhere in the paper of strawman or which side makes the more outlandish ones. How one side perceives the morality of the other side does not a strawman argument make. A strawman argument requires that one make up an argument that the other side didn't make in order to defeat that argument.
They were not asked to use their own words. They took a multiple choice quiz in which they gave "their answers" or answered how they thought a typical person on the opposite side of the political spectrum would answer. At no point did they use their "own words". You really shouldn't accuse someone of not reading something that either you didn't read or if you did read it you were unable to comprehend.
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You mean something like "MAGA hats are the new klan hood"? Because liberals believe that MAGA hat wearers are racists and that the hat wearers wear them to display their racism. Does that count as a strawman?
canceled.2021.3
Former Vice President
They are emulating tactics of statists and totalitarians throughout history
Hitler, Mao, Polpot etc
Adolf_Twitler
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If someone claims "MAGA hats are the new klan hood" that would be an opinion or if they are claiming it is a conclusion based on some evidence then it would be a hasty generalization fallacy.
No. Your statement doesn't count as a strawman since you didn't defeat the false argument you are claiming the other side has. If you are claiming that liberals say this because you heard one person say it then you are guilty of the fallacy of composition.
Old Trapper
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This is what separated realists for those who believe in an alt. reality. Obviously the study did not include Trump, and his followers. And since you start out with a lie it is obvious they did not contact you.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...labels_exaggerate_our_differences_131203.html
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
I see a lot of complaining without any facts being presented.