Study finds Climate Change is a NATURAL occurrence - Liberals Shocked & Dismayed

aloysious said:
Wow I read that and can hardly believe he posted it . Not only does it support our positions but what you've just witnessed is the famous temper tantrum rambling he displayed more often in the past when he's been surrounded by unfettered logic and has nowhere to run or hide.
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Yes it doesn't take that much to find the right button to push!
 
Al Gorians question empiricaL data like the Vostok Ice Core, but believe climatologists can accurately predict the future a 100 years from now. :palm:

What a scam!
 
aloysious said:
You don't really believe the climate started changing around 1980, do you? The OP was obviously being sarcastic. Lighten up.
As far as the graph, there are so many out there pertaining to climate, showing only one is pretty meaningless unless it's to clarify a scientific article.
But you know all that, right? Right?
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I have not given an opinion on this. I was being playful in asking for bigdogs opinion on that graph. Yet he has chosen not to respond. I find that entertaining. I also find it entertaining that others keep responding to me when all I asked for was the OP's opinion on the graph and of course to poke fun at how We are ALL some lock step group of the OTHER!!!!! So far it's been quite illuminating on people jumping to conclusions when I haven't given one opinion on the subject in this thread.
 
crowonapost said:
I have not given an opinion on this. I was being playful in asking for bigdogs opinion on that graph. Yet he has chosen not to respond. I find that entertaining. I also find it entertaining that others keep responding to me when all I asked for was the OP's opinion on the graph and of course to poke fun at how W'e are ALL some lock step group of the OTHER!!!!! So far it's been quite illuminating on people jumping to conclusions when I haven't given one opinion on the subject in this thread.
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Which is why I did not bother to respond.

:dunno:
 
Corazón said:
Was he always such a ginormous cockwomble?
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It was back on an old Dcjunkies board that I first posted with him. The first 6 months he would bring up interesting legal scenarios. But then, he got frustrated with the nature of internet forums and getting beat down, ... and decided to abandon all integrity and become 100% troll.
 
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crowonapost said:
I see, so you can be playful in your statements but no one else can. Interesting.
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WTF?

Crow wrote: "I was being playful in asking for bigdogs opinion on that graph."

You drinking this early in the morning ... again? :palm:
 
jmotivator said:
Nope. Arguing consensus is the work of group think for people unwilling to consider the available data and draw their own conclusions.

Consensus is not science.

To quote Richard Feynman: "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts."

The problems with the Anthropogenic Global Warming theory begin down are the fundamental mathematical level and those faults propagate and multiply all the way up through the discipline.
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Again, consensus is not science, but adopting the consensus view if experts s logical in this (and most) instances. Corollary: It is illogical for a non expert to adopt a heterodox position to that of expert consensus.
You are not practicing science. You are not an expert. Therefore you are illogical and irrational. Sorry.
 
jmotivator said:
Pro Tip: The faster you rush to personal insults the less you appear to understand the subject matter. I'm sorry we seem to have exceeded your comfort zone so quickly.
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No, I'm above you. I like it when a sock puppet so readily reveals itself by trolling me immediately and incessantly. I can apply the needed block that much more quickly. You offer nothing but irrationality.
 
Micawber said:
Again, consensus is not science, but adopting the consensus view if experts s logical in this (and most) instances. Corollary: It is illogical for a non expert to adopt a heterodox position to that of expert consensus.
You are not practicing science. You are not an expert. Therefore you are illogical and irrational. Sorry.
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No, sorry, the only thing you can do with consensus is establish that there is a consensus. When you get to the point that you are trying to upend a world economy we need more certainties of the science. As it stands the models derived from the theory are not in agreement, and the predictions drawn from the models have been wholly inadequate, so the "Just Trust Us" bullshit doesn't fly. All you need to do is look at the paleoclimate reconstructions and how they dramatically diverge from one another beyond the instrumental record to realize the theory is, right now, bullshit, and the IPCC attempt to polish the turn by giving averages of disparate model assumptions is absurd.

For an actionable scientific finding we need reproducible and testable models. We don't have that.
 
Micawber said:
No, I'm above you. I like it when a sock puppet so readily reveals itself by trolling me immediately and incessantly. I can apply the needed block that much more quickly. You offer nothing but irrationality.
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You are scared, I get it. You don't know what you think you know and have long since surrendered your brain to a political movement that prizes obedience over rational thought. You have the mental capacity of a bee, knowing only * sting sting sting * as a response to unwanted stimuli. Unfortunately you happen to also be one of those bees whose stinger is mall and better suited for annoying small, thin skinned invertebrates... for the rest of us you are a mixture of cute, pitty and fail.
 
jmotivator said:
You are scared, I get it. You don't know what you think you know and have long since surrendered your brain to a political movement that prizes obedience over rational thought. You have the mental capacity of a bee, knowing only * sting sting sting * as a response to unwanted stimuli. Unfortunately you happen to also be one of those bees whose stinger is mall and better suited for annoying small, thin skinned invertebrates... for the rest of us you are a mixture of cute, pitty and fail.
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No, I think they are quite intelligent and informed, able to articulate their ideas and carry on a good debate.
 
jmotivator said:
No, sorry, the only thing you can do with consensus is establish that there is a consensus. When you get to the point that you are trying to upend a world economy we need more certainties of the science. As it stands the models derived from the theory are not in agreement, and the predictions drawn from the models have been wholly inadequate, so the "Just Trust Us" bullshit doesn't fly. All you need to do is look at the paleoclimate reconstructions and how they dramatically diverge from one another beyond the instrumental record to realize the theory is, right now, bullshit, and the IPCC attempt to polish the turn by giving averages of disparate model assumptions is absurd.

For an actionable scientific finding we need reproducible and testable models. We don't have that.
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I'm glad you used the term "absurd". It applies to your contention of upending the world economy. Is the sky falling in your world?
 
domer76 said:
I'm glad you used the term "absurd". It applies to your contention of upending the world economy. Is the sky falling in your world?
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THe heavy lift has already been tried and failed miserably in several first world countries... you think trying the same thing over and over will yield new and magic results.
 
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