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Mott the Hoople said:
As long as Universities believe they have unlimited deep pockets of students and parents to pay for excessive administrative salaries and vast number of costly services that have nothing to do with instruction or research that tax payers will not pay for then prices will continue to escalate until the people have the political will to stop the insanity.
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Don't blame the universities. They can't get a dime unless people willingly pay the price they are asking.

A friend is in the process of building a house. He's getting prices from contractors now. He's shocked with some of the prices he's getting and asked one of the bidders why things were so much more/square foot than a year ago. The contractor said he could lower the price and probably get more business but he didn't need any more business and people were paying the prices he was bidding.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
I don't think you understand the issue. The colleges already got their money since the govt assumed the student debt. The kids owe the money to the govt now. The govt has to get out of the business of guaranteeing student debt as that just encourages the colleges to charge more.
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Wtf would a high school drop out like you know about the issue?
 
Sirthinksalot said:
People should be accountable for their decisions.

Majoring in basket weaving while taking out 6 figures in student loans is a stupid thing to do and no one else should have to pay for these people's stupid decision. Pay up, snowflakes.
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You sound like you have never set foot in a college classroom.

I have attended three universities, taught at a state college, and attended two community colleges. I have hundreds of friends and colleagues who have attended dozens of universities across that nation.

And I have never heard of basket weaving as a legitimate college major. Nor have I ever met a single person who majored in "basket weaving".

Is that something you heard on Boss Limbaugh's show?

I would have never been able to attend college without grants and taxpayer subsidized loans. And for that, I thank the liberal and progressive side of the political spectrum in America. Because left to their own devices, conservatives would never support higher education in a way that it would have made it reasonably accessible to someone like me.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
HAHAHA. You're making a fool of yourself. Affirmative action is PURE RACISM and indefensible and even you can see that. You support AA because you are a white-hating racist - like all liberals.
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If leveling the playing field is "racism", then you're admitting the system is already set up to accommodate your privilege.
 
Havana Moon said:
Media studies
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Most of the pundits from whom you get your ideas have degrees in this field.


Havana Moon said:
sociology
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The median pay for Sociologists is higher than the national median average, according to BLS. But keep arguing your uninformed bias. LOL.

2017 Median Pay
$79,650 per year
$38.29 per hour


women's studies
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If there were more women's studies majors, then there wouldn't be as much misogyny and sexism.

Also, according to Data USA, Women's Studies majors also make more than the median US income:

AVERAGE WAGE
$68,943

Plumbers made a median salary of $52,590 in 2017.

So women's studies majors make more than plumbers.


theatre arts
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The entertainment industry employs more people than coal and oil combined.

All those shows on TV and Netflix; all those movies in the theaters and on HBO...all of that includes theater majors.


and liberal arts, to.name but a few!
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Liberal Arts degrees, according to PayScale, have an average median income of $60K, which is more than plumbers make.

It's funny how once you do a deep dive into inherent Conservative biases, you find those Conservatives are always talking out of their asses.
 
Cypress said:
You sound like you have never set foot in a college classroom.

I have attended three universities, taught at a state college, and attended two community colleges. I have hundreds of friends and colleagues who have attended dozens of universities across that nation.

And I have never heard of basket weaving as a legitimate college major. Nor have I ever met a single person who majored in "basket weaving".

Is that something you heard on Boss Limbaugh's show?

I would have never been able to attend college without grants and taxpayer subsidized loans. And for that, I thank the liberal and progressive side of the political spectrum in America. Because left to their own devices, conservatives would never support higher education in a way that it would have made it reasonably accessible to someone like me.
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I'm going to assume ignorance on your part, and not that you're intentionally being a dumbass. I shortened it to basket weaving, assuming people would still get the idea.
Underwater basket weaving is an idiom referring in a negative way to supposedly useless or absurd college or university courses and often generally to refer to a perceived decline in educational standards.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_basket_weaving
 
LV426 said:
Maybe yourself? After all, you seem really bitter about Affirmative Action.

That's because you know that your privilege is what carried you, not your work ethic. So you take it as a personal affront that anyone dare question the fantasy of hard work and perseverance you crafted for your character, but you secretly know and accept that you didn't work hard, you didn't persevere, you lived a lucky life thanks to your inherent privilege.

You just have to posture on the internet because it makes you feel better to think that other people think you are a rugged individualist because you don't.
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I wonder what percentage of his income is from the government.
 
LV426 said:
If leveling the playing field is "racism", then you're admitting the system is already set up to accommodate your privilege.
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That's not called leveling the field. It's called racism and it's easily proven that it is.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
I don't believe that
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And thus is the crux of the problem with Conservatism...you want to make this a debate about feelings and beliefs. Well, you cannot believe this, you accept it or you don't.

Not accepting it means you are in denial; accepting it means your inherent biases and prejudices are wrong.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
if it's true it's only because there are so many makework affirmative action jobs in sociology invented just so women and blacks have jobs.
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LOL!

So you started off by saying people with this major are not employable.

Then, when provided actual facts from BLS showing they are and in fact make more money than plumbers, you refuse to accept those facts.

Your problem is that your ego outweighs any desire to be factually accurate.

What a fucking fraud.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
As long as Universities believe they have unlimited deep pockets of students and parents to pay for excessive administrative salaries and vast number of costly services that have nothing to do with instruction or research that tax payers will not pay for then prices will continue to escalate until the people have the political will to stop the insanity.
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When College Football and Basketball coaches are making 8.5 Million Dollars a year, and deans are making 4.5 Million a year, one has to wonder if the main goal is to graduate students, win Sporting Events, or are just in it for the money. College Football Stadiums, Practice Stadiums, Basketball Arena's, Baseball Stadiums etc. are costing students Billions of dollars every year that comes out in much higher tuition costs than what is necessary to get a good education.

Colleges have become a Fatcat industry. While most of the cost of tuitions are to pay for these fatcat salaries and build their Hippodromes!
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
When College Football and Basketball coaches are making 8.5 Million Dollars a year, and deans are making 4.5 Million a year, one has to wonder if the main goal is to graduate students, win Sporting Events, or are just in it for the money. College Football Stadiums, Practice Stadiums, Basketball Arena's, Baseball Stadiums etc. are costing students Billions of dollars every year that comes out in much higher tuition costs than what is necessary to get a good education.

Colleges have become a Fatcat industry. While most of the cost of tuitions are to pay for these fatcat salaries and build their Hippodromes!
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Yup and they operate from the premise that if the State won't pay for their empire building then they'll just raise tuition cause they think it's a bottomless pit of money that students and parents are just over joyed to pay.

I have to admit that this is something that I think Gov. Kasich did well on here in Ohio. He terrorized the Ohio State University System on cutting tuition costs or losing State funding. You could hear the howling from High Street to Lake Erie! LOL
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yup and they operate from the premise that if the State won't pay for their empire building then they'll just raise tuition cause they think it's a bottomless pit of money that students and parents are just over joyed to pay.

I have to admit that this is something that I think Gov. Kasich did well on here in Ohio. He terrorized the Ohio State University System on cutting tuition costs or losing State funding. You could hear the howling from High Street to Lake Erie! LOL
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Yep! Texas State officials have threatened 10's of Millions in cuts across the state for state college funding, unless they do the same thing here- LOWER TUITIONS and Lower Budgets! But our chicken shit governor is not having any part of it. He is against the cuts! He's just another fatcat- looking after other fatcats!
 
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