Student-loan payment may soon come directly out of your paycheck

Yep! I agree, that if you currently owe for your student loan- It must be paid. Just as if you would pay back a loan for your car payment.

I'm in this argument as an advocate to extend Public School all the way to an Associates degree. And I laid out ideas on how to accomplish that without any help from the Federal Government!

I am a Democrat- but I am no Bat-Shit-Crazy Democrat that wants the Federal Government to pay for anyone's education- or their student loans!

If you're a Democrats, you're automatically bat shit crazy.

How do you propose paying for that extra school? I have an idea. If you want someone to go beyond 12th grade, pay their tuition yourself or convince their irresponsible parents to do so.
 
Those benefiting from AA should be bitter. They're being told that they lack the ability to do it on their own and a factor for which they had no control is what is used to make the decision.

It does tend to set them up for failure later on. If not in school then in the real world. I had students in my professional school class that were there only because of AA.
A couple dropped out of the profession, one flunked out, one or two had to repeat a yr. (torture!) and the most successful became a full time instructor at my school. Instructors probably don't earn 1/5 what the avg. self employed pros do in the real world in my profession - "Those that can, do. Those that can't , teach."
 
It does tend to set them up for failure later on. If not in school then in the real world. I had students in my professional school class that were there only because of AA.
A couple dropped out of the profession, one flunked out, one or two had to repeat a yr. (torture!) and the most successful became a full time instructor at my school. Instructors probably don't earn 1/5 what the avg. self employed pros do in the real world in my profession - "Those that can, do. Those that can't , teach."

Words of truth and wisdom right there.
 
If you're a Democrats, you're automatically bat shit crazy.

How do you propose paying for that extra school? I have an idea. If you want someone to go beyond 12th grade, pay their tuition yourself or convince their irresponsible parents to do so.

I already stated how States can do this without any federal funds. Go back and read Asshole!
 
You are as much of a Democrat as I am a republican. Cut the bull shit

Typical. He's not a hard left moonbat loony tune and you consider him a white supremacist nazi.
No different from the hard right who don't consider cawacko a republican.
 
How so? I never needed affirmative action. My white privilege somehow caused me to work hard in state undergrad and professional schools as well as in the real world.
As far as affirmative action, that's only a set up for failure later on. So in a way it's not even fair to those who receive it.

According to LV's logic, white people don't have to work hard. All they have to be is white.

One of two things is the case using his view: All the education and hard work put forth by whites was unnecessary because all we had to do was use skin color and not do a thing or his white privilege claims are bullshit.
 
It is relevant. If you didn't pay for your kid's college and you're supporting a program where someone other than you is forced to do so, you're just like the rest of the freeloading parents that refuse to meet their responsibility. You keep proving that I'm a better person and a better parent than you.

On a side not, if you took out loans and won't them back, hopefully that will ruin your credit.

You sure make a lot of assumptions about other people you don't even know!

And you seem to always have such a poor disregard for others- You don't even know!

And you think that makes you somehow better than everyone else?

Actually, that make you out to be an asshole! Congratulations!
 
Typical. He's not a hard left moonbat loony tune and you consider him a white supremacist nazi.
No different from the hard right who don't consider cawacko a republican.

Thanks!

It's like when I'm driving, before I do anything, I make sure I'm not doing something that will cause anyone any bad feelings towards me or have to suffer any consequences as a result of my driving.

I approach my politics in the same way, as I know there are many things that could be done to improve things for the majority of people, that has nothing to do with politics, but has appeal or interests from other's on both sides of the fence.

I do believe in a majority rule, and I like to see things come up on referendum, and have the people vote for or against them.

That is the only reason why I brought up the idea of extending public schools to offer High School Graduates a chance to get an Associates degree.

I wasn't trying to jam something up someone's ass!

Fuck! All I was doing was asking others what they thought, while throwing some ideas out there of my own on how to do that and keep the Federal Government completely out of it!

But then I was attacked in the forum by an asshole that made up a bunch of shit about me personally just to insult me and my ideas!

It's OK!

I know assholes like him exist here that are here just strictly to express their hatefulness out on others. Follow CFM's posts and that is all he ever does- never a kind word- never anything positive- only insults after insults and bragging about his own achievements- WITHOUT ANY PROOF WHAT-SO-EVER BTW!

That man has to be the most miserable man in the world!
 
Most of these liars can pay their student loans but as long as there is talk of a bailout they claim their debt is crushing them!! So i support this and remind people "never buy anything on credit."

Some states already take out loan payments for state employees. Some take out money for child support and student loans from lottery winnings.
 
Someone brought up the example of "basket weaving", but that was never a major at either of the two Universities I attended. It was probably an elective, sure, but wouldn't basket weaving technically be a "trade"? They probably offer it as a major in trade schools.
It could be argued that no time spent in college is 'wasted'. Curriculum aside, there are myriad life lessons (good and bad) to be gleaned from what is typically a kid's first extended stay away from home.

That said, the issue is the debt that students are saddled with after graduation. Many kids aren't in a position to intelligently weigh both sides of the college debate. Honestly....16-18 years old is pretty young to make decisions that will affect you for the rest of your life. I really didn't know what I wanted to do with my life when I was near graduation from high school.

I knew what my interests were, but those typically aren't the best courses of study for many students who need quality employment post graduation. This article addresses the worst degrees with respect to future employment. I'm sure there are others.


https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow...majors-for-a-lucrative-career-2019/index.html
 
Tuition and fees vary from college to college. The average cost of tuition and fees for the 2018–2019 school year was $35,676 at private colleges, $9,716 for state residents at public colleges and $21,629 for out-of-state students at state schools, according to data reported to U.S. News in an annual survey.

Working night shifts to pay for school usually limits students to working minimum wage jobs. That is why I suggested a minimum wage increase would help!

And why do we limit our children to 12 years of public school? We could do more, like add a couple of more years of Community College.
As long as Universities believe they have unlimited deep pockets of students and parents to pay for excessive administrative salaries and vast number of costly services that have nothing to do with instruction or research that tax payers will not pay for then prices will continue to escalate until the people have the political will to stop the insanity.
 
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Affirmative Action is a nice excuse fragile white losers use to explain their loserdom.

No, the black guy didn't get the job over you because of AA; they got the job over you because you suck.

Take some personal responsibility for yourself instead of blaming a program that levels the playing field.

HAHAHA. You're making a fool of yourself. Affirmative action is PURE RACISM and indefensible and even you can see that. You support AA because you are a white-hating racist - like all liberals.
 
As long as Universities believe they have unlimited deep pockets of students and parents to pay for excessive administrative salaries and vast number of costly services that have nothing to do with instruction or research that tax payers will not pay for then prices will continue to escalate until the people have the political will to stop the insanity.

I don't think you understand the issue. The colleges already got their money since the govt assumed the student debt. The kids owe the money to the govt now. The govt has to get out of the business of guaranteeing student debt as that just encourages the colleges to charge more.
 
You sure make a lot of assumptions about other people you don't even know!

And you seem to always have such a poor disregard for others- You don't even know!

And you think that makes you somehow better than everyone else?

Actually, that make you out to be an asshole! Congratulations!

It's not an assumption when things are there to support it.

Knowing them personally isn't relevant. Knowing they refuse to do what they should be doing then demanding someone else do it for them is. Are you saying I have to personally know every social welfare freeloader to know they're not doing what THEY'RE supposed to be doing for themselves?

What it makes me is a personally responsible individual that does what he's supposed to do for his family. It's already been made perfectly clear what someone that opposes that concept and/or shows their opposition in practice is classified.
 
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